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The Dozen with Liam Tuffs

Atheist Host CHALLENGED On His Sins During Interview

05 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What led to Scott's transformation from addiction to evangelism?

0.031 - 5.939 Liam Tuffs

There's not a single part in me that could ever possibly believe there's a God that exists. Convert me.

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5.959 - 12.488 Scott McNamara

He started foaming at the mouth, convulsing. His eyes rolled to the back of his head and he died in my arms. Do you know where you're going to go when you die? Because I know.

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12.608 - 19.097 Liam Tuffs

You've asked me about my sins. Let's talk about a few of yours. Has there ever been drink, drugs, sex, violence, porn?

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19.257 - 36.498 Scott McNamara

Mixing with gangsters and taking a lot of drugs and living a hedonistic lifestyle. Those two worlds began to collide. How many women have you fucked? Prostitutes, what would your wife and children think about that comment? Guys in gangs, drug dealers, they're the guys I was going for. SWAT teams, riot police, you know, Antifa, hundreds and hundreds of them. Somebody got shot and was murdered.

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36.518 - 51.115 Scott McNamara

Do you think they deserve to be executed for that? People sawn in half, burnt at the stake, fed to the lions, crucified upside down, skinned alive. This is their heritage, right? That is what Christians went through. Have you ever sniffed cocaine in a church?

56.461 - 79.6 Liam Tuffs

Scott, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. You are a hardcore, I would say, extreme evangelist to the point you walk up to random people and say to them, I've seen you do this. And I thought, wow, you've got some neck. You say to random people, can I ask you a question? If you had a rucksack on your back full of your sins, would it be heavy?

80.301 - 97.981 Liam Tuffs

So we're going to come back to that because I want to know some reactions because I'm sure you must have been told to fuck right off by some people. But I'm sure you as a breath of fresh air to others. But we're going to get into it. You've got a very interesting story. First and foremost. You've even got a book called Jesus at the Door, where I'll put links for people.

98.422 - 109.159 Liam Tuffs

If they like what they see, then there's more. But what is Jesus at the Door? Is it essentially speed dating for Christ?

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Mm-hmm.

Chapter 2: How does Scott engage with people during his evangelism?

170.7 - 182.524 Liam Tuffs

I'll tell you what we're going to do. Jesus is at the door. This is your thing. You invented it. You created it. Proves to be quite successful. do it with me, try it with me now. And I know that you want to do that.

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182.604 - 196.329 Scott McNamara

Yes, no, I do for sure. And just to preface it though, like I really don't feel like I made it up. Like it was kind of phrases that were given to me when I was praying for people on the street, right? I would get a phrase that would kind of just really like the atmosphere would become charged and change.

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196.369 - 214.533 Scott McNamara

I could feel something different when I got there, when I felt this phrase and I wrote it in my phone and I ended up with nine phrases over a number of months. That's kind of how it was birthed, literally in what I would call the harvest fields, right, in the place with people who don't know Jesus. It came from the people for the people is how I describe it. It didn't come from a church.

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It didn't come from the prayer closet or Bible seminary, all the things I love, right? It didn't come from that place. It came from the secular, sinful society. It came from the soil, from the streets. And that's, for me, why it's so beautiful, you know?

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226.944 - 231.188 Liam Tuffs

What a humble response that was, sir. Convert me.

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Okay, and I don't do the converting Jesuses, but I'd love to do the sharing, sir.

235.059 - 236.821 Liam Tuffs

You're just a messenger for Jesus.

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Yeah, I'm just passing the message on, right? Just like the Apostle Paul said, how can they respond if they don't hear, and how can they hear if nobody tells them, right? How beautiful are the feet who bring the good news. So all this is is the good news I'm bringing, and the rest is between you and the Lord, right?

250.142 - 271.612 Liam Tuffs

I'm going to do my eyebrows first. It's the only hair that I've got. And I'm going to be completely open because I'm atheist. Yeah, I understand. And there's not a single part in me that could ever possibly believe that there's a God that exists. But I'm all for people that do. But I'm well up for you doing your Jesus at the door thing on me. And who knows?

Chapter 3: How does Scott define the 'Jesus at the Door' method?

277.866 - 279.028 Scott McNamara

Obviously, you've seen it before, right?

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279.008 - 292.954 Liam Tuffs

No, I haven't actually seen that picture. Let me show the audience that picture. I won't read what's on the back, by the way, because this is completely organic. You didn't know this was coming. So this is a picture of somebody knocking at the door and there's a love heart surrounding it.

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So have you ever prayed as a youngster, any time in your life, even once, have you ever prayed?

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298.303 - 300.027 Liam Tuffs

I prayed once and I can give you the story.

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Chapter 4: What intense experiences did Scott face during his evangelism?

300.147 - 323.239 Liam Tuffs

When I decided that I was going to start promoting Christianity because in the UK, because we're lacking community, we're lacking faith. And also I know what the alternative faith will be that will dominate eventually if Christian values aren't restored. So I started going to church every now and again. And the first time I went, I think it was the priest, he noticed that I was new.

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323.279 - 339.685 Liam Tuffs

He came up to me in the crowd or sat down next to me. He said, I've not seen you here before. What are you doing here? I said, well, it may blow your mind. I'm kind of here more kind of sort of politically and culturally because I want to get behind the church, but I don't believe in God. My and I was very honest with him.

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340.066 - 355.867 Liam Tuffs

I said, I believe there was a very influential man called Jesus who had a powerful message and he spread his word. And it was it was one of positivity and faith and hope and glory and unity. And I said, I'm all for that. I said, so I believe there was a man called Jesus. I said, but I don't believe he come back from the dead.

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355.907 - 372.88 Liam Tuffs

I don't believe Moses parted the sea and I don't believe there's a God out there. I said, but I am here to support the community. He sort of went boss-eyed for a little bit. And he appreciated the honesty. So I sat through the whole service. And then at the end, they said, there's two people at the back.

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373.361 - 391.021 Liam Tuffs

If you want to go and speak to them and say a prayer or whatever it is you want to do, do it. I fall in for a penny, in for a pound. I'm going to take as much in as I can. So I went and sat with these two people that have been part of the church for many, many years. So we're chatting away and I told them the truth. And then they said a prayer for me.

391.061 - 418.149 Liam Tuffs

And they said, whether you believe or you don't, just sort of see if you can say a prayer. So I did. I closed my eyes. It also reduced me to tears. And I said, God, if you do exist and you are out there, this will make me cry again probably, but we're here now, Scott. Let's do it. Let's go all in. So I said, if you exist, God, and... I haven't got it right.

418.85 - 437.535 Liam Tuffs

And you do exist and you are real because my nan's been gone 16 years. I don't accept a day of it. She was the love of my life. And I cry regular over missing her. It's a hell of a loss. It's a hell of a hole in my heart that will never recover. And I said, if you do exist, please look after my nan.

438.815 - 451.921 Liam Tuffs

And I said that and I was quite overwhelmed and emotional, but I mean, it doesn't take a church for me to get upset about my nan. So the answer to your question is, which was long winded, which you probably enjoyed that because I'm being vulnerable. I have prayed once in my life. Yes.

452.322 - 453.224 Scott McNamara

Okay. Thanks for sharing.

Chapter 5: What is the significance of Scott's New Year’s Eve experience?

636.001 - 651.283 Scott McNamara

So you're the bank. A million pounds, you're the bank. Okay, come along. I'll give you a check for a million. You give it to the bank. What happens to your debt? But debt's gone. Debt's gone. So I know it's hard to fathom, right? Because you're not in that situation. But imagine being in a situation where you have a debt that it's impossible to clear. You just can't do it.

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651.303 - 664.223 Scott McNamara

Let's up it to 10 million, right? It's just a debt you can never, ever clear. Imagine the feeling of suddenly someone comes along and says, I'm going to wipe that for you. Imagine that feeling, knowing you don't have to live with that anymore. And that's just an example of what Jesus did, right?

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664.243 - 684.277 Scott McNamara

So when he died on the cross, he wrote you a check, signed in his blood, not a pen, and he wrote Liam Tufts on that check for the debt that you were going to accrue in heaven. He said, I'm going to pay for it. The Bible says he suffered the cross for, he endured the cross for the joy set before him. And the joy was that you one day could say as easily as anything like, Come on in. That easy.

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684.337 - 698.896 Scott McNamara

Jesus, I'll let you in. You don't have to work at it because he did everything on the cross. That's what's beautiful. So you wrote your name on that check. Now, here's the dangerous part. You can believe. Many believe the check was written. Many believe he died for them, right? A lot of people believe Jesus died, even if you're not quite there. A lot of people do.

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699.277 - 717.576 Scott McNamara

Now, believing is very different from receiving. So I could give you the million pound check and you could put it on your nightstand. You could put a hole in it and wear it around your neck, right? You could talk to it every night, but that's not going to clear your debt. You've got to get into the bank, go to the bank. You've got to hand it into the bank manager and he's got to accept it, right?

717.876 - 735.274 Scott McNamara

A lot of people do that with Jesus. They believe it exists. But on judgment day, when you stand before the Lord, you'll be no different from the atheist, right? The one who never believed all his life because believing is not enough. The devil believes in God. Jesus says, I want you to come follow me. I want you to receive what I've done. So that's the difference between believing and receiving.

735.334 - 745.325 Scott McNamara

Do you know what I mean? So if Jesus were here right now in this studio with us, would you let him in? Would you open that? If you knew it was him, right, would you open that door? Would you allow him to remove that sin and bring you into a relationship?

745.405 - 771.479 Liam Tuffs

I would insist Jesus come in because I've never seen the geezer before. If you exist, I want to see you. So yeah, of course I'd let him in. Does there have to be an element of guilt for this to work? Because... Not even devil's advocate. You see the sins, my sins. I don't feel guilty about any of them. But there's zero guilt. I look at all of my sins or mistakes as lessons.

771.96 - 791.228 Liam Tuffs

And if anything, I'm grateful for them. I'm grateful for the mistakes I made. I'm grateful for the times I spiraled out of control. I hit rock bottom. A lot of people don't know this. More recent than people think. I'm so grateful for it. I don't feel guilty at all. I've done some... done some sinful things, but I don't feel in the least bit guilty.

Chapter 6: What challenges does Scott face as an evangelist in modern society?

821.088 - 833.813 Liam Tuffs

I may have said some nasty words, some spiteful words to people I love in the heat of the moment that there's maybe a slight bit of guilt there. But on a whole, I don't feel guilty about any of my past.

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833.833 - 854.036 Scott McNamara

Yeah. I understand that. I think like part of that is good, right? Because part of that, we learn from what we've done. We do learn from our mistakes for sure. And also it can help us to not want to go there again. But the Bible talks about something called the gift of repentance. So this idea of being cognitive of your sinful nature, helps you then accept the grace of God, right?

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If a doctor came to you and said, hey, I've got a cure for you, but you didn't know you were sick, then you just reject it. I don't need your cure because I'm not sick, right? So there's got to be an awareness of the sickness of our sin. And that sin takes us to a lost eternity separate from God who's holy, right?

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So there's got to be a revelation of the guilt of that sin, not so you can feel really bad, but so you can appreciate the cross and appreciate what Christ did for you, you know? So, yeah. You can't see the wind, right? We can't see the wind. If we take a walk outside here, you can't see the wind, but you can feel it. I like the wind. I believe Jesus is here right now.

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So what I'd love to do is pray for you to feel his presence. Would that be okay?

891.546 - 895.593 Liam Tuffs

Fill your boots, but I don't want to lose the audience's retention, so make it short and sharp.

895.693 - 896.795 Scott McNamara

Short and sharp, no problem.

896.815 - 904.129 Liam Tuffs

I know what you've got to go to life. Once you start leaning into quotes from the Bible, you're off.

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My prayers are short. I pray for people on the streets. My stuff's short.

Chapter 7: What vision does Scott have for the future of Christianity?

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If I'm like, you're going to hell and turn a burn and that kind of stuff, I can understand why people would get a little bit, you know, aggravated by that. But I mean, all we're doing is saying, hey, look, have you seen this picture? Do you pray? So if people don't want to talk about it, then, you know, we bless them and let them go, right?

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1070.745 - 1088.093 Scott McNamara

The Bible says, John chapter 6, verse 44, Jesus said, nobody can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them. So we trust the Lord to draw the people, right? We're just there sharing the message and sharing the goodness, but it's up to him to bring people to him. If they don't want to hear, then we kind of let them move on. We don't force them to stay and force them to hear.

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1088.134 - 1092.301 Scott McNamara

So it's a pretty kind of gentle approach in that way, you know?

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1092.321 - 1108.554 Liam Tuffs

Before I start asking you about it, because I know that you... you walk and march and preach in some very hostile, dangerous areas of the UK. In fact, we'll do that now. Some of the most dangerous places and some of the most scariest experiences that you've encountered since you've been on your evangelist journey.

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1108.755 - 1124.681 Scott McNamara

Yeah, yeah, I mean... For me, obviously, I've been living in the US for eight years, you know, so I've been doing a lot of what I do out there. The Portland riots, there was a riots in Portland, I think it was like 120 days or something consecutive. And it was pretty crazy, right? You had, you know, the SWAT teams and the riot police.

1124.701 - 1141.587 Scott McNamara

And this went on every single night, you know, Antifa were there in hundreds and hundreds of them dressed in their, you know, their gear with the black helmets and like an army really, you know, and they were out there causing kind of all kinds of riots and stuff. So we went into those areas to share the gospel. So that was probably the most intense I've ever experienced.

1141.607 - 1162.4 Scott McNamara

It was in Portland, and Portland's very well known for its witchcraft and occult practice. So there was an obelisk in Portland, and that's where the witches had carried out their incantations leading up to these riots. So very spiritual, you know, hostile place, right? And we went in there, me and a few of my guys, and just began to share, you know, armed with the weapon of the gospel.

1162.7 - 1179.189 Scott McNamara

We went in there and just, you know, shared the truth with these people, right? After about 20 minutes, the Antifa guys were out there with their cameras filming us. So then word got around the camp very quickly, and then they were all coming up to us like, you know, obviously not... not favorably welcoming us. So that got very, very hostile.

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And then we went back, and this is the interesting part of the story. We went back a couple of weeks later. We heard there was going to be a big riot like every night, but apparently this one was tipped to be a big thing. So we go there, and as we approach, a handful of the Antifa leaders come to me, and they say, we know who you are, and we don't want any trouble tonight.

Chapter 8: How did Scott's past influence his views on sin and repentance?

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And, you know, you got people just walking up, knocking people out. Do you know what I mean? Like just crazy stuff, man. So we went in there and actually baptised people, led people to the law right in the middle of Carl Anderson Park was like the HQ of it all. So that was intense. So for me, the most intense experiences have been for me in the US.

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Have you ever come under attack yourself?

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1332.11 - 1351.44 Scott McNamara

No, I mean, I've had some, you know, some kind of moments, but not quite. Not quite, no, no. And if I'm honest, I always feel like, you know, the peace of the Lord. I mean, the closest I came was when a bar owner in Northern Ireland was going to headbutt me. He got in my face, was screaming at me, threatening me, and was about to headbutt me. That was my most intense moment.

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You know, it was in a very sketchy area in Northern Ireland where I used to live. I went into these bars that were very full of, like, you know, gangsters and crazy folks. And the Lord told me to go to the bar. And when I was there, the owner come in my face and screaming at me like, I'm going to kill you, I'm going to kill you. And he said to me, why are you here?

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Screaming at me, why are you here? And I said, Jesus sent me, right? I couldn't think of anything. I said, Jesus sent me. And as I said, Jesus, he moved his head away as if there was a force stronger than me stopping him. Long story short, me and that guy became friends. He opened up his bar, the darkest bar in the whole community, opened it up to me, said, you can bring church to my bar.

1387.903 - 1392.691 Scott McNamara

And I brought my church team and the worship team came in. I shared the gospel in that place.

1393.172 - 1399.944 Liam Tuffs

Oh, fair play. That was the Lord stepping in saying, hey, lads, that's enough. It's like the invisible doorman.

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Yeah.

1401.095 - 1403.259 Scott McNamara

Exactly. You don't want to mess with this dormant.

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