The EggChasers Rugby Podcast

S11 Ep60: 15 July 2024 - Summer Tours

14 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

England v New ZealandWales v AustraliaIreland v South AfricaFrance v Argentina Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP 6: 7s Circuit or circus?

10 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

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S11 Ep59: 08 July 2024 - SUMMER TOURS & ND7s

07 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

England v New ZealandIreland v South AfricaWales v AustraliaNorth Dorset 7sTHE NORTHERNER Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep58: 01 July 2024 - Top 14 Toulouse

30 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Top 14 FinalSummer Tour Previews and PredictionsCraven Week Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep57: 24th June 2024 - EDDIE AREYOU OK?

23 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

URC FinalTop 14 Semi FinalEngland vs JapanWales vs South AfricaLTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep56: 17th June 2024 - URC SEMIS & SUMMER TOUR PREVIEW

16 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Bulls vs LeinsterMunster vs GlasgowTop 14And a look ahead to next weekend's internationalsLTBP! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more inform...

S11 Ep55: 10th June 2024 - PREM FINAL FINSANITY

09 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Prem Final reaction.URC Quarter Finals.Ford out of England summer tour.LTBP! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP 5: Eggonomics, Agency

04 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

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S11 Ep54: 3rd June 2024 - PREMIERSHIP SEMIS

02 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Bath v SaleSaints v SarriesPlus the rest of the rugby week. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep53: 27th May 2024: CHAMPIONS CUP FINAL

26 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We were all in London for the epic final and will try to remember what we can. Plus, a preview of the Premiership semi finals. Hosted on Acast. See ac...

S11 Ep52: 20th May 2024: THE FIGHT FOR TOP FOUR

19 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The finale of the Premiership regular season. LTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP 4: Eggonomics, rebuilds and rebrands

15 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

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S11 Ep51: 13th May 2024 - CROC (ROLL) OF SH*T

12 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The run in is hotting up. Plus World Rugby do more World Rugby things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep50: 5th May 2024 - CHAMPIONS CUP SEMI FINAL

05 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The final 4 in Europe going head to head. LTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep49: 29th April 2024 - A LITTLE ADDITION

29 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

LTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep48: 28th April 2024 - Premiership Rugby and Salary Cap Report

28 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Slightly early podcast due to the enormous U16 Lancashire Cup Final taking place on Sunday afternoon. The boys discuss all of the action from Friday a...

S11 Ep47: 22nd April 2024 - CHARLIE MORGAN Special - "MONEY TALKS"

21 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/04/17/community-grass-roots-special-report-cash-wild-west/This article was RIGHT up our street, so we got...

S11 Ep46: 22nd April 2024 - PLAYOFF BUN FIGHT

21 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

URC, PREM, TOP 14 - it's getting tense in the race for places. LTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep45: 15th APRIL 2024 - CHAMPIONS CUP QUARTERS

14 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

QUINS v BORDEAUXSAINTS v BULLSTOULOUSE v EXETERLEINSTER v LA ROCHELLELTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep44: 8th APRIL 2024 - CHAMPIONS CUP ROUND OF 16

07 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Reaction to a blinding weekend of Champions Cup rugby. And the rest of the rugby week. LTBP. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informati...

S1 EP3 Eggonomics: Open Border Players

03 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep43: 1st APRIL 2024 - "PREMIERSHIP BUN FIGHT"

01 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The week in rugby. LTBP. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep42: 24th March 2024 - "WE FOUGHT THE LAWS"

24 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

World Rugby's suggested law changes.Prem Rugby.TMO / Comms controversy.Plus the rest of the rugby week. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for mor...

S11 Ep41: 18th March 2024 - SIX NATIONS SUPER SATURDAY

17 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Wales v ItalyIreland v ScotlandFrance v EnglandAnd all the usual gossip and grass routes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep40: 11th March 2024 - SIX NATIONS ROUND 4

11 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

England v IrelandWales v FranceItaly v ScotlandDissecting an awesome weekend of rugby, elite to grass roots. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy fo...

EP 2: Eggonomics, Wasps hover around the URC and stadium chat.

05 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep39: 4th March 2024 - ENGLAND v IRELAND PREVIEW - 6N ROUND 4

03 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Build up to Round 4 of the Six Nations, and the rest of the rugby week. LTBP. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep38: 26th February 2024 - SIX NATIONS ROUND 3

25 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Scotland v EnglandIreland v WalesFrance v IrelandLOTS to talk about from the Six Nations weekend. LTBP. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for mor...

S11 Ep37: 19th February 2024 - FALLOW WEEK RAMBLE

19 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Somehow, despite not much in the way of rugby being on, and despite not discussing much of the rugby that WAS on, we manage to serve up another marath...

The Business of Rugby. BRAND NEW EP1: Oil Money

13 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Brand new: JB and Mark Evans discuss Saudi Oil money in rugby and what it takes to start up a rugby team. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for m...

S11 Ep36: 12th February 2024 - T.M.Oh No

11 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Six Nations Round 2 roundup. LTBP! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep35: 5th February 2024 - MERRY SIXMAS

05 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Reaction to Round 1 of the 2024 Six Nations. Plus, obviously, plenty else 'off piste'. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep34: 29th January 2024: Desole! Nous Sommes Horribles.

29 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The weekend in Paris degenerated into chaos...and 2 out of 3 no-shows. We promise to make it up to you asap! LTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/priva...

S11 Ep33: 22nd January 2024 - LRZ, 6N Squads & Champions Cup

22 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

BIG week in rugby. LOTS to talk about. Buckle up for a mammoth pod. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep32: 14th January 2024 - IS THE BORG DEAD?

15 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Round 3 of the Champions Cup. Plus the rest of the rugby week. LTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep31: 8th January 2024 - OWEN...GOING...GONE?!

07 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The week's rugby and plenty of other rugby and non rugby related tangents. Owen Farrell's rumoured move to France. England's players ditch the RPA. Pl...

S11 Ep30: 1st January 2024 - HAPPY HOGG-MANAY

01 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Marking the New Year with a pod...obvs. The weekends Premiership action as well as many rugby and non rugby related twists and turns. Hosted on Acast....

S11 Ep29: 24th December 2023 - MERRY EGGSMAS

24 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

LTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep28: 18th December 2023 - PREM (STILL) ON TOP

18 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Round 2 of Champions Cup. LTBP. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep27: 11th December 2023 - PREM ON TOP

11 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Round 1 of the European Champions Cup and we did NOT predict that!? LTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep26: 4th December 2023 - CREEPY BISCUITS

04 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The week in rugby. Prem, Top 14 and building up to the return of the Champions Cup. Also looking at Owen Farrell's decision to step back from internat...

S11 Ep25: 26th November 2023 - JB FRANCAIS

26 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The week in rugby. Prem, URC, Top 14 and grassroots. on and off the field. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep24: Exeter Update

21 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

An addendum to the end of Sunday's podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep23: 19th November 2023 - DERBY WEEKEND

19 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The news from the rugby week...elite to grassroots. Including the Premiership's Derby Weekend. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informa...

S11 Ep22: 12th November 2023 - ARUNDELL'S DAYBOO

12 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The week's rugby stories from the Premier, Top 14 and URC. As well as a healthy dose of local rugby too, obvs. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy ...

S11 Ep21: 5th November 2023 - SPICY GRUDGE MATCHES

05 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A round up of the rugby week. Premiership, Top 14, URC down to grass roots level, including JB's local grudge match Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/pri...

S11 Ep20: 31st October 2023 - "EXPENSIVE HOOKERS"

31 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Our Midweek Domestic Podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Rugby World Cup Episode #17: WORLD CUP FINAL

29 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Thoughts on one of the biggest nights in rugby history Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Rugby World Cup Episode #16: SEMI FINAL

22 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

JB, Tim and Phil run through the Springbok's epic win over England including all of the best performances - and a 30min man of the match performance f...

Rugby World Cup Episode #15: SEMI FINAL PREVIEW

18 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Rugby World Cup Episode #14: QUARTER FINAL REVIEW

15 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

What a weekend of rugby. Tim, JB and Phil relive all of the action from an incredible round of knockout matches. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privac...

Rugby World Cup Episode #13: QUARTER FINAL PREVIEW

11 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A look ahead to potentially the greatest weekend of Rugby World Cup matches ever. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Rugby World Cup Episode #12 - POOL STAGE COMPLETE

08 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We review the final round of RWC 2023 Pool Stage games including Ireland's demolition of Scotland, England's malaise against Samoa and Portugal's hero...

S11 Ep13: 2nd October 2023 - JERSEY BUST and RFU CHAOS

02 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

RUGBY WORLD CUP 2023 - EPISODE 10: Round 4

02 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

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Rugby World Cup 2023 #9: JB & Tim Reflect on the Weekend

25 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Tim has surfaced. He wasn't convinced to give himself an uppercut by Eddie Jones. So Tim and JB have a catch up to reflect on an amazing weekend at th...

Rugby World Cup 2023 #8: Australia Out? And RFU Council Letter

24 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

JB and Phil hold the fort while Cocker deals with the fallout of Australia's loss to Eddie Jones. We also discuss the RFU Council's recent letter to t...

Rugby World Cup 2023 #7: South Africa v Ireland (Round 3)

24 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A deep dive into one of the best games of rugby we've ever seen: South Africa v Ireland at RWC 2023. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more i...

Rugby World Cup 2023 #6: Round 3 Preview

20 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

South Africa v Ireland and the 7:1 SplitWales v AustraliaScotland v TongaEngland v Chile and their leaked team Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy ...

Rugby World Cup 2023 #5: GAMEWEEK 2

17 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A wrap-up of the full weekend of games from Round 2 of the Rugby World Cup. Including, England, Ireland, Wales, South Africa, Chile and Uruguay. Plus,...

Rugby World Cup 2023 #4: Round 2 Preview

13 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A mid week preview pod to discuss the upcoming fixtures now that some of the teams have been announced. We also get distracted discussing the merits o...

S11 Ep5: RFU Special - Sweeny's Gamble

12 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In a departure from the World Cup bonanza, JB has an interesting rumour regarding the RFU's upcoming renegotiation of the Premiership Rugby Profession...

Rugby World Cup 2023 #3: Round 1 Wrap Up

11 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Digesting all of Sunday's games including Chile's World Cup debut, South Africa's demolition of Scotland and the epic battle between Wales and Fiji. H...

Rugby World Cup 2023 #2: Post Day 2 inc England Argentina

10 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We discuss all of the action on Saturday including England's heroic win over Argentina. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

RUGBY WORLD CUP 2023 #1: Post France v New Zealand

09 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S11 Ep1: WORLD CUP PREVIEW POD

03 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The World Cup is so nearly here. Our preview AND plenty of grassroots rugby besides...obvs. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informatio...

S10 Ep75: 28th August 2023 - "BOK LASH"

28 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Everything that isn't England. France v Australia; South Africa v New Zealand; Scotland v Georgia; Ireland v Samoa....and the rest of the rugby week. ...

S10 Ep74: 28th August 2023 - ENGLAND'S DONWFALL

28 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A pure deep dive into an England team who are failing to inspire confidence, or their fans, ahead of the Rugby World Cup. Their final warm up game saw...

S10 Ep73: 21st August 2023 - DUBLIN DISASTER?

20 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

IRELAND v ENGLANDWALES v SOUTH AFRICAFRANCE v FIJIPlus the rest of the rugby week. LTBP! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S10 Ep72: 17 August 2023 - Farrell's "Disgusting Circus"

17 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

An emergency pod as the Farrell Disciplinary saga shows no sign of stopping. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S10 Ep71: 14th August - "FAZBALL"

13 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

England v WalesFrance v ScotlandJB v Cocker on the subject of FarrellLots to discuss. LTBP! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informatio...

S10 Ep70: ENGLAND SQUAD ANNOUNCEMENT

07 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Our reaction to England's 33 man squad for France Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S10 Ep69: 7th August 2023 - England's Downfall Starts Early

06 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A run through some of this week's Summer tests following Wales' destruction of England, Scotland's sneaky win against France's seconds and Ireland's r...

S10 Ep68: 31st July 2023 - NO INTEGRITY!

30 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The conclusion of the Rugby Championship. More tinkering with the England squad. Plus the rest of the rugby week.LTBP Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/...

S10 Ep67: 23rd July 2023 - Brad Barritt at 13

23 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

All the usual nonsense with a sprinkler of current and historic rugby trivia. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S10 Ep66: 16th July 2023 - Eddie's Datsun 1200'

16 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Rugby Championship Round 2. More vintage Eddie Maaaaate. World Rugby U20s final and many non rugby tangents including rally cars and NFL quarterbacks....

S10 Ep65: 10th July 2023 - Roid Rage and Rugby Championship

09 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Rugby Championship Round 1. Eddie's reign begins with a bump...maaaate. South Africa and New Zealand looking ominously good OR are Australia and Argen...

S10 Ep64: 3rd July 2023 - Eddie All Over Again?

02 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

England's Preliminary World Cup Squad.Nations League.And the rest of the rugby (and non rugby) week.LTBP! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for m...

S10 Ep63: 29th June 2023 - BODIES IN BITS

29 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Belatedly, the boys are back. Because their were bodies in bits. A bit of rugby...ish. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S10 Ep62: 25th June 2023 - JB Retiring?

25 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A quick pod to tide you over and to keep our promise of being there EVERY Monday morning, 52 weeks a year. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for...

S10 Ep61: 19th June 2023 - NEWSFLASH: Jack Willis is Good at Rugby

18 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The Future is French...we've already established this much. But more confirmation courtesy of the Top 14 Final. Also, changes to the Heineken Cup form...

S10 Ep60: 11th June 2023 - England Picks & CVC Nightmare

11 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

French Top 14 and Super Rugby Playoffs. England's wider training squad - who do you want and expect to see? And some reflection on the disaster of thi...

S10 Ep59: 5th June 2023 - The Future Is French

04 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Whilst most grassroots podcasters go into summer hibernation, we keep you in a weekly rugby fix, and somehow manager to wang on about rugby for even l...

S10 Ep58: 29th May 2023 - FINALS DAY

28 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Saracens v Sale and Stormers v Munster. Plus the rest of the rugby week, obligatory Crossfit nausing and a new mantra to live your life by. Hosted on ...

S10 Ep57: 22nd May 2023 - OFF FIELD POD

21 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

All the (mostly negative unfortunately) stories OFF the rugby field. Wasps and London Irish. RFU issues. AWJ and Tips retiring. Hosted on Acast. See a...

S10 Ep56: 22nd May 2023 - CHAMPIONS CUP FINAL (On Field Pod)

21 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Leinster v La RochelleToulon v GlasgowPremiership and URC Final PreviewsAll of the on field rugby stories from the week. Hosted on Acast. See acast.co...

S10 Ep55: 15 May 2023 - Semi Final Week

14 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The season gets serious with a couple of semi finals and a team humbled by a slice of hubris. We also cover the rest of the news including a journalis...

S10 Ep54: 8th May 2023 - WINE WITH THE BOYS

07 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The final round of Premiership rugby's regular season.URC Quarter Finals.The rest of the rugby week.LTBP. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for m...

S10 Ep53: 1st May 2023 - CHAMPIONS CUP SEMIN FINALS

01 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Leinster v ToulouseLa Rochelle v ExeterRFU Debt, Wales Squad...and the rest of the week's rugby news. LTBP. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for...

S10 Ep52: 24th April 2023 - Prem Play-Offs Confirmed

23 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The usual witty banter covering all (some) of this week's rugby activity. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S10 Ep51: 17th April 2023 - LAWS, LAWS...and LAWES

16 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The stories of the rugby week. A review of the games and a deep dive into a controversial officiating decision. What IS going on. Here is your weekly ...

S10 Ep50: 10th April 2023 - CHAMPIONS CUP QUARTER FINALS

10 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A weekend of elite and epic Champions Cup Quarter Finals reviewed: Leinster v Leicester; Toulouse v Sharks; Exeter v Stormers and La Rochelle v Sarace...

S10 Ep49: 3rd April 2023 - CHAMPIONS CUP last 16

02 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A round up of the rugby weekend - the last 16 of the Champions Cup. Some epic games - plenty to get stuck into. LTBP. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/p...

S10 Ep48: 27th March 2023 - Rugby...NOT Skiing

26 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A new effort at a World League. Central contracts. And hatred of skiing. ALL topics and tangents covered besides the weeks rugby action. LTBP! Hosted ...

S10 Ep47: 19th March 2023 - STATE OF THE (Rugby Football) UNION - "JB 2023"

19 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

JB, from his mountain retreat spills all the beans on his experience standing to be an RFU Councillor and what the experience reveals about the state ...

S10 Ep46: 19th March 2023 - SIX NATIONS 'SUPER SATURDAY'

19 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A round up of the final round of the (brilliant!) 2023 Six Nations Championship. LTBP! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S10 E45: 13th March 2023 - DOMESTIC POD "Grassroots Super Saturday"

12 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Grassroots and domestic rugby matters. LOTS to discuss. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

S10 Ep44: 13th March 2023 - SIX NATIONS ROUND 4

12 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

England's humbling at the hands of France. Wales back to winning ways in Italy. Ireland showing their class in Edinburgh. Another seriously entertaini...

S10 Ep43: 6th March 2023 - SIX NATIONS RND 4 PREVIEW

05 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A preview of three meaty Round 4 matchups in the penultimate weekend of Six Nations action. LTBP! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more info...

S10 Ep42: 6th March 2023 - "JB 2023" - DOMESTIC POD

05 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

JB is putting his money where his mouth is and vying to be an elected RFU Councillor...find out the very latest. Plus, of course, all the grass roots ...