The Elements of Deep Sea Mining
Episodes
#35: Complex Trade-Offs and Environmental Decision-Making: Paul Hirsch on Values, Governance, and Power
25 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, I spoke with Paul Hirsch, Professor of Environmental Studies at the State University of New York College of Environmental Science and...
#34: Ed Nedelciu and the Growth Paradigm in Deep Sea Mining
13 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Claudiu Ed Nedelciu, Ecological Economics Researcher at UiB joins the podcast to challenge the “inevitability narrative” of deep-sea mining. While...
#33 Craig Shesky on The Metals Company’s Financial Case for Deep Sea Mining
03 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
I speak with Craig Shesky, Chief Financial Officer of The Metals Company.Craig walks me through the financial and regulatory architecture behind TMC’...
#32 Idealism and Pragmatism: Moving Stepwise into the Abyss with Andrew Thaler
24 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Andrew Thaler — deep-sea ecologist, conservation technologist, and recent witness before the U.S. House Natural Resources Committee...
#31: State Consent and the Deep Sea: Nathan Eastwood on Law, Legitimacy, and the Limits of UNCLOS
17 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Elements of Deep Sea Mining podcast, Nathan Eastwood, a partner at Watson Farley Williams, shares his extensive knowledge on in...
News Roundup No.3
05 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Check out full notes and linkes to articles referenced at Elyse’s Substack: If you don’t know all of the names and terms well, this glossary may b...
Seeing Below the Surface: How Deep-Ocean Exploration Actually Works with Anna Lim
07 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Geophysicist Dr. Anna Lim has spent the past several years turning the invisible into the intelligible—designing and leading deep-ocean exploration ...
Part 2 - After the Debate: How to Disagree.
24 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
After the formal deep-sea mining debate, Oliver, Victor, and I stayed on the line for a more casual conversation about how to disagree constructively....
Debate Part 1: Oliver Gunasekara and Victor Vescovo
24 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This debate centers around the necessity and implications of deep sea mining, featuring Oliver Gunasekra advocating for its potential benefits and Vic...
The Ethics of Deep Sea Mining - Espen Stabell
10 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, I speak with Dr. Espen Stabell, philosopher at the Western Norway University of Applied Sciences (HVL) and NTNU — and my PhD superv...
Dr. Rahul Sharma: perspectives of seabed mining and the Indian context as a developing country
22 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Rahul Sharma — is former Chief Scientist at India’s CSIR–National Institute of Oceanography, Goa, India. With more than 40 years of experien...
Stig-Morten Knutsen: Comfortably Numb vs Confronting Uncertainty
09 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Stig-Morten Knutsen is Chief Geologist at the Norwegian Offshore Directorate, Vice Chair of the UN Expert Group on Resource Management, and a member o...
Part 2 Jessie van der Grient on Environment and Impacts
01 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In the second half of this conversation, Jesse digs deeper into the specifics of the potential environmental impacts from deep sea mining, as well as ...
Jesse van der Grient - Science without Sides
21 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Jesse van der Grient is a quantitative ecologist whose work focuses on how ecosystems connect — across habitats, species, and stressors. She bri...
Coalter Lathrop on Risks to International Stability
08 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Coalter Lathrop is Principal and Founder at Sovereign Geographic as well as a lecturer on international law of the sea. He joins me on the podcast to ...
Andreas Svanlund on Resilience and Realpolitik
01 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Andreas Svanlund—business strategist, public speaker, and corporate executive— had early involvement in shaping discussions around Norway’s emer...
News Roundup No.2
20 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Full write-up and links to articles discussed can be found at Elyse's Notes From the Deep Substack: notesfromthedeep.substack.com Chapters 00:00 Intro...
Aiste Klimasauskaite on How Science Informs Policy
04 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Aiste is a researcher at the University of Bergen whose work sits at the intersection of science, policy, and public discourse on deep sea mining. The...
Pradeep Singh on The Law of the Sea, the ISA, and the Politics of Deep-Sea Mining
07 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Pradeep Arjan Singh — International ocean governance expert, Senior Project Manager at the Oceano Azul Foundation, and advisor to the IUCN. Pradeep ...
Part2 - Mats Ingulstand: Abundance, Geopolitics, and the Long Arc of Scarcity
30 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Mats Ingulstad — historian at NTNU and lead of the TripleDeep project. His research explores the political economy of minerals and the role of the o...
Mats Ingulstad on the History of Deep-Sea Mining and Critical Minerals: Lessons from the Past, Risks for the Future
23 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I sit down with Mats Ingulstad, professor at NTNU, whose research bridges the history of strategic materials, global supply chains, and the political ...
Scott Vincent on Investing and Pushing Back on Narratives
17 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, I talk with Scott Vincent, an investor and advocate for deep-sea mining who founded the Critical Ocean Minerals Resource Center to ch...
Matthew Gianni on the Context of Conservation
10 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I’m joined by Matthew Gianni, an independent consultant, advisor, and advocate for marine conservation based in the Netherlands. He is co-founder of...
Lyle Trytten Part 1: On Processing, Tailings, and Trade-offs
03 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, I sit down with Lyle Trytten — the self-proclaimed “Nickel Nerd” and global expert in mineral processing and sustainability —...
A Deep Sea Mining News Roundup
28 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This episode is a joint release with journalist Elyse Hauser who publishes a deep sea related newsletter at Notes from the Deep.Elyse prepared a numbe...
Michael Clarke on The Metals Company's Environmental Research Program
08 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Clarke, Environmental Manager at The Metals Company, brings over 30 years of conservation biology experience to impact assessment of potential...
Steinar Ellefmo on what lies below
16 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The Elements of Deep Sea Mining, Professor Steinar Løve Ellefmo shares a foundational look at deep-sea minerals, how they form, an...
Dr. Helen Rosenbaum: The Case for a Ban
09 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Dr. Helen Rosenbaum—Campaign Coordinator of the Deep Sea Mining Campaign—shares her perspective on why no amount of deep sea...
Trytten on Tariffs, Trade and Technical Expertise
20 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I sit down with Lyle Trytten—nicknamed the “Nickel Nerd”—a chemical engineer and metallurgical consultant specializing in critical minerals an...
Oliver Gunasekara, Impossible Metals and the Elements of Innovation
15 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Oliver Gunasekara discusses the innovative system developed by Impossible Metals aimed at addressing the environmental challenge...
Simon Jowitt. Optimism and constraints in the minerals sector
04 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I speak with Simon Jowitt about the nuances of the mining industry. We discuss the importance of mining in modern society, the dynamics of resources a...
Dorothy Dankel on Epistemic Humility in Science
27 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Listen to the full episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or your preferred playerDorothy Dankel joins Eric to discuss her recent paper with Min Hyung Kim...
Lars Kristian Trellevik on Systems Thinking, Deep Ecology and the Norwegian Context
22 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Listen to the full episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or your preferred playerLars Kristian Trellevik, Chief Operations and Sustainability Officer at ...
Elyse Hauser on Deep Sea Journalism
17 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Listen to the full episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or your preferred playerEric is joined by journalist Elyse Hauser, whose work on deep-sea mining...
Where has all the nuance gone?
17 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This podcast has 3 aims1- to share knowledge about deep sea mining, and about the drivers of the deep sea mining conversation: critical minerals, ecos...