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AFL: Each contender's biggest flaw; MRO no longer 'fit for purpose'

16 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we consider each contender's biggest flaw as the run home heats up. Plus, Christian looks at the players who love playing at home but not o...

Red Time: Brownlow 'fairness' debate; Simon Goodwin under 'extreme' pressure

11 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Jake Michaels and Jarryd Barca debate whether the AFL should remove the 'fairness' element in Brownlow Medal voting, and unwrap...

AFL: Weird Champion Data stats; Dons' % - does it matter?

09 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we discuss 'Northball' and the identity forged since the bye, look at the race for the top four (and eight), and delve into the quirky stat...

Red Time: Ball tracking is long overdue; Dimma, Suns under 'massive pressure'

04 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Jake Michaels and Jarryd Barca discuss how ball tracking technology will benefit the game, and ask if there needs to be a time ...

AFL: How the Dockers (and Tigers!) beat the Swans - is it the blueprint?

02 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team looks at the Dockers and how they've shown the footy world the Swans are fallible. Plus we heap praise onto Carlton skipper Patric...

Red Time: Is Sydney peaking too early?; North's new pass mark

27 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Matt Walsh and Jarryd Barca ask if Sydney is peaking too early, set North Melbourne's new pass mark for the remainder of 2024, ...

AFL: How the Lions have turned it around; Dees bad AND unlucky

25 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team looks at Brisbane's recovery from a poor start and how North Melbourne have turned the corner. Plus, where it's gone wrong for the...

Red Time: The recruit of the year; Swans on upset alert

20 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Matt Walsh and Jarryd Barca discuss who the recruit of the year has been after 14 rounds, analyse what the Demons need to do wi...

AFL: Teams with the best 'run of goals'; Bont's Brownlow revenge?

18 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team looks piling on goals in quick succession, discusses Bont's season (and why it's second only to Gaz), and dives into taggers again...

Red Time: International Rules should be 'left in the past'; Celebrating Dusty

13 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Matt Walsh and Jarryd Barca go head-to-head debating the potential return of the International Rules Series between Australia a...

AFL: Crows' woes laid bare; analysing the bye teams

11 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we look at the Crows' 'unsustainable' numbers, the Hawks' excellent past six weeks, and look at how positions like 'winger' and 'general fo...

Red Time: We're still not convinced by these 'top eight' teams...

06 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, our trusty video guy from the control room Alex Hatzikostas stepped up to the plate (well, the desk) to join Jake Michaels whil...

AFL: Could Daicos end up as GOAT? (hear us out!); Dees unpacked

04 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we look at the Demons' inconsistent first half of the year, while Jake makes the case that Nick Daicos might have the highest ceiling of an...

AFL Mid-Season Draft special: Who was the steal of the draft?

30 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In a special episode of the podcast, ESPN's draft expert Jasper Chellappah joins Jake and Jarryd to unwrap the 2024 Mid-Season Draft, including who yo...

AFL: End of the two ruck era? Biggest 'turnover merchants' revealed

28 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we look at the players whose turnovers get punished the most, analyse whether playing two rucks is a help or hindrance, and examine home vs...

Red Time: Are AFL games too long?; A midseason trade period would be 'unfair'

23 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Jarryd and Jake assess why we're seeing so many soft tissue injuries this season, debate the idea of a midseason trade period, ...

AFL: All things 'running bounce'; just how good is Harley Reid?

21 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team discusses Sydney's flag favouritism and how far the gap is between them and the 'next best' team is. Plus, we talk Harley Reid's s...

Red Time: Curnow the greatest forward since...?; Thursday night footy debate

16 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Jarryd and Jake debate Thursday night footy, ask where Charlie Curnow belongs when ranking the best modern day key forwards, di...

AFL: We were wrong about the Bombers; 'Darwin Suns' analysed

14 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team discusses the legitimacy of Essendon's finals push amid a hot run, plus we talk the 'Darwin Suns', Melbourne's front half woes, an...

Red Time: Powell comments ‘pathetic’; who is the most underrated player?

09 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Jarryd and Jake react to the breaking news that Wil Powell was handed a five-game ban for using an anti-gay slur, as well as re...

AFL: Top eight changes we'll see; best kicks from outside 50 revealed

07 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the ESPN Footy Podcast, Christian explains why Bayley Fritsch's goal was NOT the best of the weekend, analyses which players (current and...

Red Time: Who is the current face of the AFL?

02 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Jarryd and Jake discuss who they think is the face of the AFL today, ask if the Showdown is now the game's best rivalry, heap p...

AFL: The five best players of the season; It's time to scrap the draw

30 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The ESPN Footy Podcast team reveal the five best players of the season (so far), debate whether draws should still exist for home-and-away fixtures, a...

Red Time: Harley Reid vs. Nick Daicos debate; will North win a game?

24 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Jarryd and Jake discuss which player they would rather have out of Harley Reid and Nick Daicos, ask if North Melbourne could be...

AFL: Latest Toby Greene debate; The game's luckiest team revealed

23 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The ESPN Footy Podcast team are split on the Toby Greene bump, while they dissect the current state of umpiring, and consider giving more credit to St...

Red Time: Is it time to ban Anzac guernseys?; The AFL's most underwhelming player

18 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Jarryd and Jake ask whether it's poor form for clubs to release Anzac guernseys when they don't play on the day, discuss if we ...

AFL: The three teams nailing Champion Data's premiership metrics

16 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Now all teams have played five games the ESPN Footy Podcast team looks at which teams are nailing the premiership metrics. Plus we chat Jason Dunstall...

Red Time: 'Grubby' Dees' terrible optics; should Gulden have taken 10 years?

11 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On Red Time this week, Matt and Jake discuss Melbourne's 'grubby' decision to challenge Kysaiah Pickett's ban, plus they debate who is worth 10 millio...

AFL: Why Bombers are 'bottom four' material; best teams at scoring late goals

09 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team analyses the Jekyll and Hyde Bombers, look at the kings of red time goals, and uncover some very quirky Gather Round stats. Plus, ...

Red Time: Genuine contenders ranked; does the AFL have a 'streaker' problem?

04 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week on Red Time, we discuss which teams are showing signs of being genuine contenders, and whether the Tigers should trade Tom Lynch, while we a...

AFL: Shots from free kicks - teams and players the umps love

02 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we look at the teams and players who kick the most goals from free kicks, plus the interstate sides with the best records at Adelaide Oval,...

Red Time: Explosive AFL drug claims; Would Richmond regret these trades?

27 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week on Red Time, ESPN's Jarryd Barca and Jake Michaels discuss bombshell drug claims that were aired in parliament during the week, share why P...

AFL: Swans leading the newest trend; Pies lacking hunger or just too old?

26 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team looks at the Swans' hallmarks and why they might be leading a new trend in footy, while we also discuss what's gone wrong with the...

Red Time: ‘Most overpaid player in the AFL’; Butters vs. Rozee debate

21 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week on Red Time, ESPN's Jarryd Barca and Jake Michaels debate whether or not the Eagles should have delisted Andrew Gaff and ask if the Bulldogs...

AFL: Assessing the 0-2 Grand Finalists; Dogs 'just aren't that good'

19 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team looks at where last year's Grand Finalists are getting beaten, while Christian takes us through the definition and examples of a c...

Red Time: Why the Cats will decline in 2024; Early heated AA debate

14 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week on Red Time, ESPN's Jarryd Barca and Jake Michaels debate Harry McKay's goal kicking and Geelong's 2024 prospects, quash the Collingwood 'pr...

AFL: How Dimma is using his 'shiny new toys', MRO fails again

12 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team breaks down every Opening Round result, and looks at how Dimma is using his 'shiny new toys'. Plus the MRO gets a clip for not set...

Red Time: Our Essendon confidence meter; Are the Pies being disrespected?

07 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Red Time! In the first episode, ESPN's Jarryd Barca and Jake Michaels break down the Jimmy Webster suspension, share their concerns with th...

AFL: What clubs have tried in preseason, plus list quirks and Jimmy Webster

05 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we chat the truncated preseason and whether it's really worth analysing from a statistical point of view, while Christian brings a number o...

AFL: What's new at Champion Data; Jake's 50 best players explained!

26 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In the first episode of the ESPN Footy Podcast for season 2024, the team discusses what is new at Champion Data with Christian Joly, including some ne...

AFL: Who is on every club's Mount Rushmore? (PORT-WB)

11 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In an offseason, three-part special, Matt and Jake are joined by Rohan Connolly to discuss an interesting question: who is on each club's 'Mount Rushm...

AFL: Who is on every club's Mount Rushmore? (GEEL-NM)

07 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In an offseason, three-part special, Matt and Jake are joined by Rohan Connolly to discuss an interesting question: who is on each club's 'Mount Rushm...

AFL: Who is on every club's Mount Rushmore? (ADEL-FREM)

04 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In an offseason, three-part special, Matt and Jake are joined by Rohan Connolly to discuss an interesting question: who is on each club's 'Mount Rushm...

AFLW: Lions roar to second flag; Koenen's stellar performance

05 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! The team talks about Brisbane's Grand Final victory over North Melbourne, the Lion's ...

AFLW: BIG Grand Final preview; MonCon wins BnF

28 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! The team talks about Geelong and Brisbane's spicy prelim final and the nail biter bet...

AFLW: Dees out in straight sets, another Crows-Lions GF incoming?

22 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! The team talks about The Crows dismantling of the Swans, what's next for Sydney, Melb...

AFL: Draft Special in the brand new studio!

17 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

ESPN's draft expert Japser Chellappah joins Matt Walsh and Jake Michaels in a massive draft preview special in the new ESPN studio, but, as with all n...

AFLW: was that North's greatest ever win?

15 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! The team talks about Brisbane's close win over Adelaide, Sydney's history-making vict...

AFLW: Crazy top 4 stats, huge finals preview

09 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! Join Marissa Lordanic and Imogen Evans to dissect everything from Round 10. The team ...

AFLW: The craziest, closest run home to finals ever!

31 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! Join Sarah Burt and Isadora Mcleay to dissect everything from Round . The team talks ...

AFLW: Is an 18-team, 10-round season fair?

17 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! Join Marissa Lordanic, Sarah Burt and Isadora Mcleay to dissect everything from Round...

AFLW: Are the Crows in the box seat for the flag?

12 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! Join Marissa Lordanic and Sarah Burt to dissect everything from Round 6. The team tal...

AFL: Draft latest, including combine review and fresh intel

10 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In a special episode of the podcast, ESPN's draft expert Jasper Chellappah joins Matt and Jake to discuss the latest intel out of this year's draft cr...

AFLW: are the players or the AFL responsible for raising the standards?

04 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! Join Marissa Lordanic, Isadora Mcleay, and Imogen Evans to dissect everything from Ro...

AFL: Breaking down the Pies' thrilling win; Auskick kid snubs

01 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In a huge washup episode, we break down the ins and outs of Collingwood's thrilling Grand Final win over the Lions. Plus a close look at the Pies' cul...

AFL: Prelim reviews; Grand Final preview; Brownlow chat

26 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Massive episode this week, as we break down the two prelims, look at what the losers need to do to take the next step, and preview a massive Grand Fi...

AFL: Brownlow special! Who wins, 'Brownlow Standards' and more!

20 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On a special edition of the podcast, Jake Michaels and Champion Data's Christian Joly take us through their Brownlow predictors ahead of a massive cou...

AFLW: Rise of the Gold Coast Suns?

20 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! Join Marissa Lordanic, Sarah Burt, and Imogen Evans to dissect everything from Round ...

AFL: Straight sets dissected; one team is lucky to be in the prelims

19 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we break down the two semifinals shocks, and look at where it went wrong for the Dees and Power, while we also preview the two prelims, and...

AFLW: Rule changes = higher scores?

12 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! Join Marissa Lordanic and Sarah Burt, as well our second debutant, GWS player Isadora...

AFL: Maynard debate boils over; the case for straight sets exits...

12 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, Matt and Jake clash over whether Brayden Maynard should be suspended, but agree that the MRO and tribunal system need overhaul, while Chris...

AFLW: back-to-back for the Dees?; Sydney coach's spicy comments

07 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The AFLW edition of the ESPN Footy Podcast is back for Season 8! Join Marissa Lordanic and Sarah Burt, as well as newbie, Collingwood player, Imogen E...

AFL: Huge finals previews, X-factors, draft latest with Jasper Chellappah

05 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team looks at how this week's finals will play out, while we name our X-factors for every team, and Jasper Chellappah joins the pod to ...

AFL: 'World-first' stats, bottom 10 analysis, AA squad chat, AFLW, and MORE!

29 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team judges which bottom 10 sides they're bullish on, while we also look at the updated "premiership standards" report, debate some of ...

AFL: Score review crisis; is 'finals footy' really different?

22 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team breaks down the Crows-Swans fiasco, while Christian brings to the table a number of 'finals footy' stats, and if they really matte...

AFL: Breaking down Tim English's botched kick-in; retiring star overrated?!

15 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

It's a MASSIVE episode this week, with the team looking at the Blues' lesser lights, the kick-in stats Dogs fans don't want to hear about, and this we...

AFL: Why every team in the top 4 is suddenly vulnerable

08 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we look at the downturn in form of every team in the top four, and wonder if this is another year in which a team ranked 5th to 8th can mak...

AFL: Does an NBA-style +/- stat work in footy? Buddy retirement chat

01 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we reflect on Lance Franklin's legendary career, discuss the best kicks on their non-dominant foot, and look at which travelling teams far...

AFL: The teams nailing 'premiership standards'; pressure factor explained

25 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we look at the 'middle of the pack' teams nailing the premiership standards, explain how pressure factor is measured, and look at the Risin...

AFL: The comp's most dangerous kicks, priority picks, wildcard rounds

18 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

It's a massive episode this week, and the team debates whether there's merit in expanding the finals given the tight race for the eight, Christian loo...

AFL: The 'four-quarter performance' myth; Stuart Dew reaction

11 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team discusses the dismissal of Stuart Dew, while Christian Joly looks at the old wives' tale of playing a 'four-quarter performance', ...

AFL: Dees slumping - still contenders? Why wouldn't Swans use their sub?

04 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team analyses the Demons' form slump and wonder if they're still premiership contenders, while we also look at Sydney's decision not to...

AFL: 𝘞𝘩𝘺 West Coast is this bad; Jake and Christian butt heads on AA

27 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we look at the reasons behind the Eagles' dire situation, and discuss the importance of James Sicily (and Tex Walker), while Jake and Chris...

AFL: Who are the league's most effective tacklers?

20 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the pod, Champion Data's Christian Joly dissects the art of tackling and reveals which players apply them best, while the team analyses T...

AFL: The 'worst MRO week ever'; best performances in milestone games

13 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team analyses a confusing week for the MRO and tribunal, Christian runs through some stats showing which teams are nailing their chance...

AFL: De Goey bump; listener Qs; Blues almost as bad as West Coast?!

06 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team looks at the Jordan De Goey bump (and associated by-play), Christian dissects the Blues' dire scoring stats and the difference bet...

AFL: All things intercept marks; Freo's revival; players who have regressed

30 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, in "the Sicily episode", the team discusses the importance of intercept marks amid a surge of talented interceptors, Christian looks at the...

AFL: Most improved players; Dimma departs; Eagles' biggest issue

23 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, Christian looks at the league's most improved players in 2023, we analyse Damien Hardwick's tenure at Richmond, discuss the perfect storm w...

AFL: Best players in 'revenge games'; draft lottery debate; Swans struggles

16 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team looks at the merits of a 'draft lottery' and if it could work in the AFL, we look at what has happened to the Swans (and if it can...

AFL: Blues in strife, accuracy stats, booing, and Ratings Points explained

09 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the podcast, the team chats the AFL's most disappointing team (Carlton), discuss accuracy, ask why Lance Franklin is being booed, and Mat...

AFL: The Grand Final curse is back; chatting Harley Reid and the AFL Draft

02 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the pod, the boys are joined by Jasper Chellappah to chat all things draft (and consensus No. 1 pick Harley Reid), we look at the Gil suc...

AFL: Boring Blues, dismal Dockers, Ross Lyon, and hard-to-believe stats

26 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the podcast, we discuss the disappointing Dockers, and if the Blues can get out of their 'boring' hole, while Christian brings to the tab...

AFL: The importance of winning the post-clearance contested possession differential

18 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the podcast, the team discusses Adelaide's strong form and finals chances, Gather Round as a whole, Jake puts the heat on Stuart Dew, oh,...

AFL: Behind St Kilda's steamrolling start, the worrying tale of two Lions teams

11 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, as the Saints continue to notch up victories, the boys take a look at the impact of master tactician Ross Lyon and his defensive strategy. ...

AFL: Accuracy at near-worst levels; why we're not worried about the Cats

04 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team analyses the downturn in set-shot accuracy across the competition. With reigning premiers Geelong currently sitting at 0-3, the bo...

AFL: What 2-0 (and 0-2) means for finals chances; 'sirengate', concussion, and more

28 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week the team discusses the niche rules regarding sirens following North's win over the Dockers. Nathan Broad reignites the concussion debate, wi...

AFL: Heated concussion debate; the key stat for every team from Round 1

21 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the pod, Christian brings a new segment to the table in which he looks at the key stat from every team in their match from the weekend. J...

AFL: Our BIG preseason predictions for the flag, spoon, biggest risers and more

14 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In this week's podcast, the team runs through their final preseason predictions, including who they think will win the flag, the Brownlow, the wooden ...

AFL: New coaches and their gameplans; one player to watch from every team

07 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The ESPN Footy Podcast is back for another year, and this week, Matt, Jake, and Christian chat the changing gameplans of clubs with new coaches, Jake ...

AFL: The 50 best players going into 2023

05 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The team is back for 2023! In a cheeky bonus episode before we really get going, Jake reveals the 50 BEST players in the AFL - taking into account for...

AFLW: Bad housewarming guests; Dees finally win the flag

28 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week the team review the AFLW Grand Final and dissect how Melbourne won their first and flag and where things went wrong for the Lions, chat abou...

AFL: HUGE AFL Draft preview with ESPN expert Chris Doerre

22 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The ESPN footy pod team are joined by draft expert Chris Doerre ahead of next week's 2022 AFL Draft, taking a look at every club's greatest list needs...

AFLW: Destination Springfield; season over for Crows and Roos

22 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week the team analyse the two grand finalists, Melbourne and Brisbane, chat about what Adelaide and North Melbourne can take out of their respect...

AFLW: Is a Lions-Dees GF a given?; Not doom and gloom for semifinal losers

16 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week the team analyses why both Richmond and Collingwood can take a host of positives out of season seven, chat about why a Melbourne-Brisbane pr...

AFLW: How did they get the scheduling so wrong?

09 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week, the team looks towards two massive semifinal clashes - including the saga surrounding Richmond's fixture against the Kangaroos - analyse Fr...

AFLW: The closest finish in AFLW history?; HUGE finals preview

03 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the pod, the team discuss the most chaotic draw of the season between the Roos and Tigers, the 0.3% that separated the Demons from the mi...

AFLW: North have blown the finals race wide open; previewing a MASSIVE final round

26 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we talk about the closeness of the Crows vs. Cats game, discuss what North's win over the Pies means for both sides, chat about who is in t...

AFL: Who your club should take with their first draft pick; huge trade and free agency review

17 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Matt, Jake, and Christian are joined by ESPN's AFL Draft expert Chris Doerre to break down the trade and free agency period just gone, and look ahead ...

AFLW: A rousing battle for fourth; will Prespakis top the league again?

11 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the pod, the team talk about the surprise packet that is Hawthorn and the gripping battle for fourth spot between Collingwood and the Kan...

AFLW: Can any team outside the eight play finals? Probably not...

06 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week, Marissa and Anna ponder whether the top eight is already set with four rounds to come, while they chat Chelsea Randall, and look ahead to a...

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