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A partial government shutdown looms

30 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What incident sparked the current immigration policy debate?

4.317 - 28.448 Dana Taylor

Following the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Preddy by federal immigration agents in Minneapolis last Saturday, Democrats have taken a stand against the Trump administration's immigration policy. Senate Democrats are refusing to advance a must-pass appropriations package if it includes funding for the Department of Homeland Security. Hello and welcome to USA Today's The Excerpt.

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28.648 - 41.228 Dana Taylor

I'm Dana Taylor. Today is Friday, January 30th, 2026. Joining me now to discuss the possibility of another partial government shutdown is USA Today congressional reporter Zach Shermalee.

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Chapter 2: What were the outcomes of the Senate vote on the funding deal?

41.428 - 42.79 Dana Taylor

It's good to speak to you, Zach.

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42.81 - 43.391 Zach Schermele

You too, Dana.

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44.012 - 52.245 Dana Taylor

Zach, Thursday afternoon saw a failed Senate vote on passing a previously agreed upon funding deal. What happened there?

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52.512 - 73.118 Zach Schermele

So all Democrats and seven Republicans in the Senate failed to advance a what was originally bipartisan funding package that included six Republicans. of the federal government's 12 annual appropriations bills.

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Chapter 3: How are Senate Democrats responding to the Trump administration's policies?

73.318 - 91.547 Zach Schermele

So essentially, as you noted, ever since the killing over the weekend of Alex Preddy, a 37-year-old ICU nurse in Minneapolis, Senate Democrats have been extremely united over their concerns regarding the Trump administration's

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91.527 - 107.41 Zach Schermele

immigration enforcement surge in Minneapolis and, you know, just point blank said to Senate Republicans and to the White House, we are not going to advance this funding package despite having negotiated over it for months.

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107.39 - 133.296 Zach Schermele

months if there is not an agreement to strip out a bill that would fund the Department of Homeland Security, which includes Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, and Border Patrol. We need that to be stripped out of the broader funding package, and we'll fund the rest of the government, but we want to buy some time to negotiate over our concerns related to immigration.

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133.276 - 147.988 Zach Schermele

After the vote, the White House and Senate Democrats did come to a deal. They said that they are going to move forward with taking out the Department of Homeland Security funding bill.

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Chapter 4: What provisions were included in the previously agreed legislation?

148.048 - 160.189 Zach Schermele

They're going to pass instead a short term measure for that agency to buy them some time. time to continue on with negotiations about reform there while moving forward with the rest of their appropriations bills.

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160.55 - 179.618 Zach Schermele

This doesn't, though, avert necessarily a partial government shutdown because there are just a lot of logistical hurdles that now have to happen, namely that the legislation has to go back to the House of Representatives, which is out. So we could see a partial shutdown, even a short one over the coming days.

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179.767 - 197.303 Dana Taylor

You said prior to the fatal shooting of Alex Preti, Democrats had been signaling they wanted to avoid a partial government shutdown. Zach, you wrote that the previously agreed upon legislation included some notable reversals of some of President Donald Trump's steepest cuts. Tell me about some of those provisions.

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197.418 - 220.158 Zach Schermele

You know, it's really interesting, Dana, we have seen lawmakers in this Congress make some notable headway with respect to pushing back both Republicans and Democrats on some of the infringement, frankly, that the president, that the executive branch has engaged in with respect to their spending authority, right?

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220.639 - 227.425 Zach Schermele

So Russ Vogt and the Office of Management and Budget and many federal agencies have in

Chapter 5: Is the looming partial government shutdown primarily about DHS funding?

227.405 - 251.276 Zach Schermele

so many instances over the course of President Trump's second term back in the White House, essentially decided with respect to all sorts of government programs that they were going to stop those programs for the foreseeable future for whatever reason. And that has wrangled even quietly some congressional Republicans. And so this spending package includes a lot of reversals to those cuts.

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251.316 - 273.188 Zach Schermele

It's a big win for Democrats and a big win for Republicans like Senator Susan Collins of Maine, the chair of the Appropriations Committee in the Senate, who's very supportive of a lot of federal programs that for a long time have been bipartisan. So there's support for those funding measures in these appropriations bills.

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273.268 - 279.197 Zach Schermele

And that's really a rebuke of a lot of the cuts to spending that the Trump administration has proceeded with.

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279.633 - 294.52 Dana Taylor

Is the current threat of a partial government shutdown really about DHS funding Zach, or is it about lawmakers running out of ways to force accountability regarding immigration enforcement that's led to the death of two Americans?

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294.837 - 323.361 Zach Schermele

Yeah, this is another chapter really in the story of what happens when you have one party fully in power in Washington. You know, the Democrats do not have a lot of political levers to pull in Washington these days when they're frustrated about a particular policy that the White House especially has. moves forward with. And we've seen that on various fronts.

Chapter 6: Which Democratic lawmakers are leading the charge against the shutdown?

323.381 - 336.133 Zach Schermele

But I think immigration, most notably, and as we learned over the course of the last federal government shutdown, Democrats have increasingly become willing to utilize this

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336.113 - 350.112 Zach Schermele

particular lever, which, you know, you could argue is sort of their most powerful one in Washington right now, to try and force the Trump administration's hand and congressional Republicans to shift course with respect to some of these things.

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350.632 - 356.4 Dana Taylor

If Democrats are successful here, will ICE be forced to shut down even temporarily?

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356.38 - 380.229 Zach Schermele

So that's part of what congressional Republicans say is kind of the irony of this whole debate over the past week or so here. You know, ICE received a lot of money in the president's one big, beautiful bill act that passed last year with $75 billion over the course of the next several years. And so they have more money on hand than they have had.

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Chapter 7: How are Republicans reacting to the immigration enforcement controversy?

380.57 - 388.716 Zach Schermele

And they are going to be able to rely on those funds to continue funding. operations regardless of whether the government shuts down.

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389.101 - 393.086 Dana Taylor

Which Democratic lawmakers have been most vocal on this issue?

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393.146 - 421.523 Zach Schermele

It's been interesting to watch which Democrats in the Senate that previously were a lot more wary of government shutdowns decide in the course of a couple of hours even on the day of Alex Preddy's killing when that video was circulating all across the internet showing Border Patrol agents taking his gun. and then fatally shooting him.

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421.583 - 443.593 Zach Schermele

These lawmakers decided very quickly and got in line with the rest of the Senate Democratic caucus that they were going to withhold their votes over this funding package. I'm thinking in particular of Senator Angus King of Maine and Independent who caucuses with the Democrats who said, I don't like shutdowns, but ICE cannot continue to operate and border patrol cannot continue to operate.

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443.573 - 455.878 Zach Schermele

In this way, Senator Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada said something similar. Both of them were yes votes on avoiding a government shutdown for much of the last crisis.

456.28 - 458.464 Dana Taylor

And how have Republicans responded?

459.125 - 488.552 Zach Schermele

It's interesting, actually, to see Republicans responding to this incident with respect to Alex Paredes in a way that differs from the White House and from the highest levels of the executive branch. You know, in the hours immediately following the incident, We saw, you know, accusations from the Department of Homeland Security that Alex Pretty was a domestic terrorist.

488.673 - 508.827 Zach Schermele

There was criticism even from the president that Pretty was carrying a gun, which he had a permit to conceal and carry. And so that has enraged Second Amendment groups that are aligned with Republicans. in Congress who are concerned and want a full investigation into this incident.

508.887 - 520.797 Zach Schermele

And I think that is part of the reason why the White House and GOP leaders in Congress have demonstrated more of a willingness to negotiate with Senate Democrats about how to move forward here.

Chapter 8: What impact will a partial government shutdown have on federal employees and programs?

545.012 - 570.356 Zach Schermele

She is the chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations Committee. She's also a representative of Maine, which is the latest state that is being targeted by an immigration enforcement surge. And she's running for reelection. And, you know, so she's having to balance all of those considerations in a way that I think is making her more amenable to working with Democrats on this.

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570.496 - 593.158 Zach Schermele

And she certainly was saying as much in the hours in the immediate aftermath of Freddie's killing. And Democrats also want to show that immigration is an issue. that they can win on in November. And it's been fascinating to see just how animating the response to Preti's killing has been across the country for the Democratic base.

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593.699 - 599.772 Dana Taylor

Are there any other major sticking points to work out to keep the government from partially shutting down?

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600.173 - 627.919 Zach Schermele

Yeah, you know, conservative hardliners are not happy about what they see as wasteful spending in a lot of the appropriations bills. Remember, the appropriations bills reinstate and, in fact, even go further in funding many programs and agencies that the Trump administration has already tried to cut. And so, you know, there are going to be some some hardliners that try and vote against

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627.899 - 647.95 Zach Schermele

funding package no matter what. But, you know, usually these appropriations bills are pretty bipartisan. So the way to overcome some of that opposition from more conservatives in the House and in the Senate is to get more Democrats on board, which I think is what the plan is for congressional leadership right now.

648.402 - 670.613 Dana Taylor

Zach, of course, the most recent government shutdown wasn't that long ago. I feel like we were just talking about it. That shutdown went on for 43 days, finally ending on November 12th of last year. Let's turn now to the impact on Americans. What will we be looking at in terms of government furloughs and federal employees working without pay?

670.593 - 691.318 Zach Schermele

Right. So as I said, this will be a partial shutdown, not a full shutdown, because six of the 12 annual appropriations bills have already been passed. So that means that there are certain portions of the federal government that are going to continue operating. Unlike what happened last fall, that was a full shutdown. So, you know, U.S.

691.338 - 717.87 Zach Schermele

Capitol Police elements of the legislative branch, you know, Capitol Hill staffers, they're going to continue operating. to be paid. The National Park Service is not going to experience the same types of disruptions. But, you know, the TSA, the agency that is responsible for overseeing air traffic control in this country, is part of the Department of Homeland Security.

718.01 - 732.628 Zach Schermele

So once we see a partial shutdown, if it is prolonged and we could see the same sorts of flight disruptions and cancellations and delays, that became so widespread last fall. So there will be some pain points, but it's going to be more measured, the impact.

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