US-Russia nuclear treaty called START expired. Should we be worried?
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What is the significance of the START Treaty expiration?
For the first time in over half a century, there are no nuclear arms controls in place between the world's two largest nuclear powers, the U.S. and Russia, with a rising China growing its nuclear arsenal. While it continues to assert its power on the international stage, we ask, is this the beginning of a new Cold War era? Hello and welcome to USA Today's The Excerpt. I'm Dana Taylor. Today is Tuesday, February 10th, 2026. The new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty between the U.S. and Russia, also known as START, expired last week. And with it, a long-dormant fear of the threat of nuclear annihilation.
How did the START Treaty contribute to international security?
Should we be worried? Joining me now to dig into the critical geopolitical, economic and military concerns at the heart of this story is Ankit Panda, a senior fellow with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Ankit, thank you so much for joining me.
Thanks for having me. Really happy to be here.
I want to start with some broad strokes here.
What are the implications of a world without nuclear arms control?
Can you please lay out what the START Treaty was and why it was so critical to maintaining international security while it was in effect?
Sure. So the START treaty continued essentially something we started doing with first the Soviet Union and then Russia in the early 1970s. In 1972, we begin a process of decades of essentially some type of numerical limits on the sizes of the Russian and American nuclear arsenals. And that has a lot of effects.
How does the current geopolitical landscape affect nuclear concerns?
It means that we have to spend less money, that we have to be less concerned about the types of unpredictability that might exist. And so in 2010, the Obama administration and the Russian Federation agreed It was a very different time. We had very different relations with Russia. We negotiated this treaty and this treaty continued that process.
What role does the Nonproliferation Treaty play today?
It set a ceiling for the numbers of strategic nuclear weapons. Strategic basically just means nuclear weapons that can be used against the other country's homeland. These are the weapons that really go across the entire planet to the other side. Those would be limited at 1,550 weapons with 700 launchers for those weapons, launchers being the submarines, the the land-based missiles and the heavy bombers that might be able to deliver those weapons.
Are there diplomatic efforts to engage Russia in nuclear discussions?
So that's what the treaty did. So now with the treaty gone, the United States and Russia are actually for the first time since the early 1970s in a world where there are no quantitative limitations on their nuclear forces.
You published a book last year that I think might best set the stage for the precariousness we face today with no nuclear nonproliferation treaty in place. The book is called The New Nuclear Age, the Precipice of Armageddon. In this complex geopolitical environment with Russia still at war with Ukraine and a rising China as a nuclear power, how worried should we be about the treaty's expiration and what would ideally take its place?
So the good news is we do still have a nonproliferation treaty, right? There is the NPT, which is the Treaty on the Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons, which is really important, right? We have more than 190 countries signed up to that. controls the spread of nuclear weapons. The argument that I make in the book that I think is really important to revisit at this moment when a new start has just expired is that we are entering a new period of complexity and danger with nuclear weapons.
What are the nuclear threats posed by Iran and North Korea?
This is a world where arms control, as we've just seen, is on the decline and the relevance of nuclear weapons and fundamentally nuclear deterrence, which is what most countries ask of their nuclear weapons to primarily deter attacks against them. In the case of the United States, attacks against ourselves and our allies. Everybody's becoming more interested in nuclear weapons. And so for many of us, this is an unfamiliar world. Really, after the Cold War ended, the nuclear issue didn't disappear, but it very much became relegated to the sidelines, at least for what really concerned us as Americans. And so now I think we are back in a world where everybody's going to just have to pay a
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8 chapters
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What is the significance of the START Treaty expiration?
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How did the START Treaty contribute to international security?
0:45–1:04
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What are the implications of a world without nuclear arms control?
1:04–1:31
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How does the current geopolitical landscape affect nuclear concerns?
1:31–1:50
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What role does the Nonproliferation Treaty play today?
1:50–2:17
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Are there diplomatic efforts to engage Russia in nuclear discussions?
2:17–3:19
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What are the nuclear threats posed by Iran and North Korea?
3:19–6:13
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What is the best and worst case scenario for nuclear proliferation?
6:13–17:42
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