Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino, along with Kaylee McEnany, Harold Ford Jr., Joey Jones and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. Won't be long. And we're going to have a much safer world when it's wrapped up. It'll be wrapped up soon. We're going to have a much safer world. That was President Trump sounding off as Operation Epic Fury enters week three.
With the U.S. military delivering one major blow after another to Iran's military capabilities and dismantling the terror regime's missile production. U.S. forces also pounding Karg Island, that's Iran's main oil hub, as President Trump looks to form a coalition of allies to help secure the Strait of Hormuz. We attacked Karg Island and knocked it down.
knocked it literally, destroyed everything on the island except for the area where the oil is. I call it the pipes. We left the pipes. I've just known that for a long period of time, just like I knew about the strait, that it would be a weapon, which I predicted a long time ago, predicted all of this stuff. He strongly encouraged other nations whose economies depend on the strait for...
I mean, numerous countries have told me they're on the way. Some are very enthusiastic about it and some aren't. The president was also commenting on Iran's new supreme leader amid some pretty interesting reports. The New York Post claims that President Trump had a priceless reaction after U.S.
intelligence told him that the new Ayatollah is probably gay and that his late father didn't think he was the right fit for the family business. But the president isn't even sure if the new guy is alive. Watch. They're saying that he lost his leg, one leg, and he's been hurt very badly. Other people are saying he's dead. Nobody's saying he's 100% healthy.
And he hasn't spoken because the Ayatollah would sit and he'd spew hate from... a form of a throne, not as nice as a throne. I like the English throne much better. But it was a fancy chair.
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Chapter 2: What recent military actions has the U.S. taken against Iran?
And the liberal media's latest hot take, apparently America is no better than Iran and epic fury is racist as well. It takes a certain amount of arrogance, and I'm also going to say it, a bit of racism, to constantly talk about people like they are savages. That is a word that we have heard Hegseth use. Our regime has secret police. They have secret police. Our regime is oppressing women.
We're marginally better, and we're doing it for Christianity. They're doing it for Islam. I don't think Hitler was selling merch. No. Hitler was very serious on his awful project. Joey, I kind of wanted to ask you to give us your take on the situation with the military at the moment. But do you want to comment on the last bit there first?
Chapter 3: How does President Trump view the situation in Iran?
Who is he even comparing to Hitler? We don't know anymore because it's just going full circle. We have no idea. Hitler was a vegetarian. So we're going to hate vegetarians now, too. I don't know. I don't know why they sit there. Listen, by all intents and purposes, if predominantly white countries did the things that Iran did, I think we'd have no problem bombing the hell out of them too.
I mean, that's it. It's not about who the countries are. Look at who the allies are. I mean, we're working with pretty much every other Middle Eastern country that's saying this is a problem. I get really upset when we get into this. It's okay to question why now. It's okay to question how necessary was it. I don't mind that. I don't mind investigations on it. I want people to ask questions.
I fought those two never-ending wars. If this is over in a couple of weeks, and that's my hope, and that's what they say, then I think it makes a lot of sense. But when you have Democrats sit there and go... Use the 13 that have died as their justification for not just opposing this, but working hard to work against it. It just really, it makes me want to grind my teeth.
I mean, we've lost 13 souls. The last time we lost 13 souls was surrendering Afghanistan. And if you didn't have anything to say with a botched operation, understand that we didn't have a plan to leave Afghanistan. We saw the Taliban coming and said, you know what? We can't stop them. So we're just going to get out of there as fast as we can. We don't really have a plan for it.
We're going to surrender Bagram. We're going to surrender every strategic advantage we have. And we're going to leave Marines and soldiers outside the perimeter at gates as sitting ducks until enough of them die that it's a problem.
And if you didn't have any criticism, if you weren't calling for investigations and hearings and impeachment over that, but you are now on an offensive operation where 13 souls have died, bombing Iran into the Stone Age, taking away a foe and their capability to kill us and hurt us, then you're intellectually dishonest and you're dishonoring the service and sacrifice of both of those groups of heroes.
And that's what bothers me so bad about where this is right now. I listened, I replayed something Chuck Schumer said. You know, his speech on the floor, just this idea that they don't understand that right now the job is to cheer for our troops to win and win swiftly and then have all your hearings and all your investigations and go raise your money and all your stump speeches.
They're definitely not doing that. I mean, on the first day, Hakeem Jeffries was like, ah, well, this is a failure. Kayleigh, but what did you think? You can comment on whatever you want, but I would love your thought about this. When you have that clip that we played at the end where they said that the United States is suppressing women just as much as they are.
But we're doing it in the name of Christianity. What I mean, what are they talking about? Suppressing women like the Iranian soccer team who the reporting now is that they were goaded into taking this asylum claim. And then as it turns out, that was not a that was not an authentic endeavor. It was a staffer luring them in. And then these women's families were threatened. What do you mean?
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the new Iranian supreme leader?
They push it. It's just simply not the case. We have First Amendment rights in this country. We have all of the freedoms and protections of the Constitution, just like our male counterparts. But that's lost upon the left and these insane commentators. I do want to emphasize the importance of this cargo operation that took place. It is a Huge deal.
President Trump, going back to 1988, has spoken about it. He said they've been beating us psychologically, speaking of Iran, making us look like a bunch of fools. One bullet shot at one of our men on our ships and I do a number on Karg Island. I'd go in and take it. Here we are, 1988. That's the year I was born. And yet here we are.
President Trump is taking this action that he contemplated for the last 37 years. It's incredible. It's a huge operation. A hundred Iranian ships sunk altogether now. Six thousand combat fights and then 50,000 U.S. service members deployed overseas. And now we're looking at the Achilles heel of Iran. That's card, which Carter contemplated taking. Never did it. But now you have President Trump.
I just want to take one moment to acknowledge that the latest six operations, service members who died overseas. There's some heartbreaking stories. John Kleiner, he had seven-month-old twins. He had a two-year-old son. And then you look over at Ashley Pruitt, a three-year-old child. She was a mother and she lost her life. These are courageous. They are heroes. They are the best among us.
And to the 13 who have lost their life, thank you from the bottom of my heart. We honor your sacrifice today and every day. Harold, thoughts on where we are? Maybe you want to touch on economics if you... Well, first off, it's good to be with everybody.
And I would say, first off, I know we all shared my prayers with Susie Wiles and her family for more belief and more strength and more courage and obviously to a full recovery for her. I'd say a couple of things. I don't think there's any doubt we have laid waste to
We, the United States, and our incredible military has laid waste to virtually, I got to think, the traditional military infrastructure of Iran has been, if not depleted, pretty much devastated in such ways that it will be hard to reconstruct immediately. One thing they do still have, according to some experts, is access to the drones. And we've got to figure out
Our counter drone technology and measures will only get better as we as we have to deal with this for a while, because it makes it when you think about it, our stance when the president says we're going to end this, the question becomes, when do the Iranian what to what to what extent will they have some say in when we when we end it? Two, I was the newsy thing for me.
Maybe I had just not seen the president called it a war for the first time. He was asked why he made delay. He was going to go to China at the end of the month. And he said, I want to be here for the war. I've always thought it was the case. And I'm glad that we are we're on the same page. I think there are three questions that remain. And I would agree with everybody here.
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Chapter 5: How has the media reacted to U.S. actions in Iran?
Joey's right. Hold after. or at least not now. I mean, if we find ourselves in a more prolonged posture or position, I can understand several months from now, and even perhaps another vote, but this is not the time. We need to be supporting our troops, and for that matter, opening the Department of Homeland Security at the same time. But I think three questions come to my mind.
Will we commit troops? I heard the president, I thought he gave, I heard him this morning, Joey and I were talking to groom, I felt like he'd been on TV three or four times a day. I was using this morning on Fox and Friends, but there are two instances. He came on later today, and I'm glad he answered a lot of the questions. But will we commit troops to uncover and or recover the uranium?
I think in the immediate sense, can we build a coalition to help us in the Strait of Hormuz to, whether it's escorting tankers or for that matter, helping in other ways to ensure that we get a better passage of infrastructure, including oil, which fertilizer and other things come from as well. And where are we on regime change?
I was a little unnerved to hear, I hope the reporting was wrong, that the president had some sort of response when learning that this new leader in Iran may have a sexual orientation different than his. The key is we have to beat these guys. I don't care if his sexual orientation is the same. Or not. But where are we on regime change?
And I think a number of Americans, for that matter, policymakers and politicians are probably curious about that issue as well. But then I don't I don't have a totally different perspective. I think that we need to we to be supportive of our troops. And I don't I don't think it's unusual for serious and perhaps hard questions to be asked of the president.
And he answered a lot of them over the seemed like the six hours he was on TV today. Greg, you have notes. You have all of these things here. I don't even know where to go because I kind of talked about the media. The new this new Ayatollah is gay. All right. So this explains why Kamala Harris did not choose him as vice president. Because we weren't ready to have a gay Ayatollah. I'm not ready.
I know that I'm not ready. I'm not ready.
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Chapter 6: What are the criticisms surrounding the U.S. military operations?
Permission, Joey, to make a joke about a lost limb. Oh, please do. All right. So this prime minister, he's impotent. He's disfigured. He's in a coma. He lost his leg. When he wakes up, he's going to be hopping mad. And we've got so much in common. One to ten? Ten. Okay, thank you. I do. And Kayleigh is right.
It's like the people that were always saying America would be the handmaid's tale, this dystopian fantasy of a totalitarian theocracy that subjugates women, are now embracing the actual reality, Iran, which is a totalitarian theocracy that subjugates women. And I do love the fact that, like, howāno offense, Haroldāhow Democratsā are really sticklers about language.
They certainly can identify a war, but try to pin them on the definition of a woman. Like, oh, I know what a war is. Why would you say war? Okay, well, you say what a woman is first, and then we'll work on war. I can tell you. I know. Well, you're different. You're a normal human being. Also, you listen to, like, Joy Reid, and she goes, well, there is Islamic, and we're Christian.
Well, there's a difference. We don't separate the world into believer and nonbeliever. We separate people by their behavior. They don't, which is why they can torment nonbelievers, because the behavior is OK. The accusations of Trump being manipulated by Israel, that accusation should go away once and for all. Kayla, you brought this up.
He was talking about the Iranian threat back in the 1980s, and he kept talking about it. He was talking about it constantly. I don't think he was, you know, he had Jerry Seinfeld on the line telling him what to say. All right. This is why Trump has resisted every label that you give him. He's not a hawk. He's not a dove.
He just looks at risk and reward and incentives and disincentives because he's a businessman. This is something that hawks and doves. interventionists, isolationists, libertarians. This is their flaw. If you are imprisoned by an ideology, the adversary knows how to play you. They can see it. It's why they can't play Trump, because one minute he's a dove, the next minute he's a hawk.
It's because he's none of the above. He's simply just Trump. Right. Everyone, well done. Thank you. Can we go home? No, you have to stay because coming up, the Democrats are starting to contemplate the unthinkable. Who are they without President Trump?
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Chapter 7: What is the significance of U.S. troop deployment in the region?
This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52-episode podcast series, The Life of Jesus. A listening experience that will provide hope, comfort, and understanding of the greatest story ever told. Listen and follow now at foxnewspodcasts.com or wherever you listen to podcasts. Will the left go mad without Orange Man Bad?
According to Axios, remember him, Democrats are heading toward a post-Trump identity crisis. Quote, when Donald Trump is gone, they're not sure what they'll stand for. Top party strategists are warning they can't win back the White House in 2028 by coasting on voters' dissatisfaction with the president and MAGA. So it begs the question, who will Spartacus sashay against?
We need people that are going to stand up and fight for the Constitution and stay faithful to the oaths we swore, not be complicit in a reckless, out-of-control president who's causing chaos abroad and rising costs at home. This is clearly amateur hour at the Pentagon and in the White House. And again, the price is being paid by all of us.
Donald Trump and Republicans have taken affirmative steps to make life more unaffordable for the American people. It is important for us to push back on what the president's doing. And how will the lefty base cope without the T in TDS? Wine creep Jennifer Welch crashing out over Joe for not locking up more of MAGA when he had the chance. Some comes down from Trump, right?
Like they're killing people in Minnesota. Now he's bombing Iran. Horrible. People are dying. Horrible. And I'm like, I hate those guys. And then my brain goes to God, Joe Biden does. He does so hard. Oh, my God. Because Merrick Garland should have put should have prosecuted him. Some of these trans women need to watch their language. We're okay with the trancing. It's the words.
So, Harold, the Dems have an SOB problem, the same old brand. They can't keep tracking in the Trump mud into their house. How are they going to stop? Look, I've said all along on the show that despite the turbulence that Republicans are facing over the last year, and we have to admit, I agree with you, Democrats have a branding problem.
Democrats need to stop criticizing the war the way they're doing it. But you have to also admit the president's underwater on the economy, on health care. He removed I thought was very interesting. The president removed the 30 day or granted a 30 day removal of sanctions against the Russians.
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Chapter 8: How do the hosts perceive the Democrats' response to military actions?
against Russian oil. If I were a Democrat, I'd be calling on the president to give us a six-month suspension of his tariffs because they're increasing prices on everything that everyday Americans are trying to afford. On education, Dana talks about it, has talked about it incessantly. We have to think about educating kids differently and more effectively in the country.
And if I were Democrats, I'd offer these kind of plans on health care, a different kind of plan. If all we do is say that Trump, Trump, Trump is bad, bad, bad. I just don't know if that alone will win. I will say we have won. Democrats have won every gubernatorial election in the last year.
They've won an overwhelming majority of the state legislative and state Senate races, as well as special elections for Congress. And some may chalk it up as they were in blue states or red states. The president won a lot of blue states and Democrats are faring well in some of them. But I contend all along. I'm back to where I was.
If we don't have a forward looking positive, you can say yes to our message. I'm not convinced we're going to win with the numbers we want to win, which means winning a majority in November. So I share a little bit of what you're saying. But we have an opening because Republicans and the president are not quite where they want to be on some of these key issues, mainly cost of living.
Kayleigh, I don't want to be surprised or blindsided in November. Should we be honest now and say, are we in are we in danger? Yeah, we are. If you look at historical trends, absolutely. The party that's governing wins choices. It tends to be a referendum on that party and they lose seats. So absolutely. It's an uphill battle. We have to be frank about that.
But here's where I disagree with Harold. Elections are not referendums. They are choices. And when you look at the polling when given a choice, Republican, Democrat, this is an NBC poll, Republicans are beating Democrats plus 27 on border security, plus 22 on crime, plus eight on immigration, and it's even on the economy.
So if Republicans can litigate the issues and not the distractions, they end up winning. To Joe Manchin's point, as he told me on Saturday, he said if Democrats want to ever control again or be the majority or have a president who's a Democrat, they have to get with commonality of what is going on. You got to listen to guys like John Fetterman, not guys like Chuck Schumer.
But John Fetterman is dismissed out of hand by party leaders like James Carville, among others. And, you know, secondly, I would just say Jim Messina has a point. What's the governing strategy of Democrats? Because you could win this election. You could win the midterms because it's a historical trend. And, you know, TDS is your strategy. But TDS cannot be the strategy in 2028.
That's not going to take you to the promised land. And finally, I would just say Democrats have to figure out where are they on Medicare for all. The left wing of the party wants that. The mainstream does not. Where are they on Israel? Where are they on government run grocery stores? They've got a lot of divisions to work through. So for all the Republicans... I'm against that. I'm for Israel.
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