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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

THE HERD – HOUR 3 – NBA Draft: AJ Dybantsa Will Be #1 Pick

23 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What are Colin's thoughts on the NBA Draft?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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5.779 - 13.43 Colin Cowherd

My first guest is Terrence Hilton. Shakira. Luke and Yerin. We have surprises. Many surprises.

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Welcome to the Sweet 305 Podcast, where the group chat comes to life. What up?

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You're the only person I know that loves a yellow Starburst.

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It's lemonade.

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This is Sweet 305.

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Here, oversharing is encouraged.

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Listen to Sweet 305 with Lele Pons on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It's that time to put on your jersey and wave your flag, whoever you root for.

Chapter 2: Why is AJ Dybantsa projected as the #1 pick?

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And the way that he fills up the box score with steals and blocks and rebounds and how efficiently he scored at his age. Really, you know, it rings alarm bells with all the analytic models, especially the steals. Two steals a game, 23 minutes per game, plus the blocks, plus the rebounds, plus the efficiency.

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NBA teams who really value their models that, you know, lean into them very heavily, they're going to have Alan Graves over a guy like Yaxo Lendeborg, for example, just because of the youth and because of the indicators that we're seeing on the defensive end. The sheer productivity... And listen, doubters would say Alan Graves came off the bench in the WCC.

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And so the body of work that we're seeing, he redshirted his freshman year. And so there's a real disconnect between the traditional scouts who pull up the film and they say, what are we watching here? We're seeing a guy who has a bad body, who's not particularly athletic, who came off the bench in the WCC. And he was not, you know, any kind of difference maker.

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You know, outside of a handful of games, he only hit 20 points this season twice all year. So I personally am a fan of Alan Graves. I love the feel for the game. I love the skill level. I love the versatility defensively, the processing, the way that he's one step ahead of the action in every moment. But.

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I understand the people who look at him and they say, you know, is this some kind of George Neang or something like that? You know, like I would say he's better than that. But there are definitely some NBA scouts who feel that way. And so we can see Alan Graves going anywhere from the late lottery tonight to anywhere somewhere in the mid 20s.

Chapter 3: What makes this NBA Draft class unique?

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Actually, he's got a pretty wide draft range. So I'm very excited to see where Alan Graves ends up tonight. All right, Jonathan Givoni, one more question. Bulls have the fourth pick. They got Nick Claxton yesterday. I'm hoping they pick Caleb Wilson because now I'm going to have my season ticket holder. They could have a couple of young bigs who are versatile. What is your make of Caleb Wilson?

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Who's a comp? What do you see? You know, you hear some Aaron Gordon comps for Caleb Wilson. He, listen, he was a much better scorer at the same age than Aaron Gordon was. But that type of size and athleticism and just the versatility, you know, like to be able to create his own shot the way he did, the rebounding ability, the finishing prowess, the passing.

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Caleb Wilson is a really exciting talent. Now, listen, there's some questions about, you know, he's 211 pounds and he's a big man who doesn't shoot threes. And so... that he's not exactly the model. But listen, the guy's 19 years old. He's going to keep getting better and better with his shooting. The jump that he made from last year to this year was tremendous.

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And so Kel Wilson really excites people. I mean, the Chicago Bulls, pretty much everybody has him locked in there as that fourth pick, and for good reason, because he's a two-way talent, and he's going to be a tremendous player in the NBA. It's very exciting. So you have De Bonza going number one. That's kind of the universal belief. And Peterson, two. And Boozer, three. And Wilson, four.

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That's not on my big board. I would have Peterson one per se. I'd have Boozer two. I'd have De Bonza three. But we're hearing that it's very likely that the Wizards take De Bonza at one. They already kind of told him this in so many words already over the weekend. I'm a little bit surprised we haven't gotten that reporting yet.

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And that's what prompted Darren Peterson to go and conduct a workout with the Utah Jazz. They came to Ohio to visit him this weekend, spend some time with him, you know, make sure that they're comfortable in that too. And so that's what NBA teams are looking at.

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They're saying it's probably going to end up, you know, Debonza one, Peterson two, Boozer three, Wilson four, and then the draft three starts at five. Anything can happen there with the Clippers.

Chapter 4: How do NIL agreements affect college basketball players?

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Do they trade down? Do they take Keaton Wagler? Do they – you know, surprise people and take a natament. There's a lot of scenarios there, you know, in that five through 10 range. It's going to be a really exciting night. I hope everybody enjoys it because I'm really looking forward to it. Jonathan, thank you so much. Thanks for having me, Colin. You bet.

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Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Covino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7 p.m. Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yup, that's right.

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You can now watch Covino and Rich live on YouTube every day. All you gotta do, search Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube. Again, go to YouTube, search Covino and Rich FSR. Check us out on YouTube, subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon, and comment away. My first guests is Paris Houghton, Shakira, Luke and Yerin, Samira and Gracie.

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I'm so excited. On the bouncy bed.

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You have surprises. Many surprises. Welcome to Suite 305, where the group chat comes to life. What up? It's like a way to say, like, hello, friend. Hello, best friend.

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Hello, sister. What up? Look, I've never talked to anyone. Except with my kids. My kids know.

946.246 - 951.413 Javier Chicharito Hernandez

You're the only person I know that loves a yellow starburst.

951.553 - 983.323 Colin Cowherd

It's lemonade. This is Sweet 305. Listen to Sweet 305 with Lele Pons as part of my Cultura podcast network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I love the sounds. The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place. Soccer. Football. It's home.

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Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breathe?

Chapter 5: What is Jonathan Givoni's take on Cam Boozer's potential?

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We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great.

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A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture.

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I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though.

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Are they the only ones that don't like it?

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Nobody likes that.

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As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Hey, I'm Hoda Kotb, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb. Together, we're going to have meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people, like when actress Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges.

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I've gone through breast cancer and then helped my mother through breast cancer, and that was more difficult. There's a lot of people who understand postpartum depression. I was not prepared for postpartum anxiety.

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Chapter 6: What are the strengths of Darren Peterson as a player?

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By the end of our game against Trucquier, I would say there'd be six players on the pitch that haven't played much so far. That's the goal. I would start six new guys. The kid Freeman, Antonio Freeman's son. Yeah, I've been reading about him like globally. He's being talked about as, oh, my gosh, this guy's like a big time player. Like, he's had an amazing tournament.

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They've got some of these heat charts where they can show the passes that people are making. The advanced numbers on Freeman. I would sit Freeman. What are we doing putting him out there? It doesn't matter if you lose to Turkey A3 nothing. It really doesn't. And they're not going to be playing their horses because they've already checked out because they're done.

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I mean, Turkey A. They were turkeys in America. Yeah, they haven't fared well. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

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And thanks for stopping by.

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The Herdline News. Ah, yes. Brendan Sorsby, NFL, said, we're not necessarily canceling anything. We're just not going to create a special event for you based on how you've dealt with a very serious issue. And I don't think it's hypocritical. As I said before, well, the NFL is in bed with gambling and restaurants are in bed with wineries and alcohol companies. And there are still boundaries.

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And, you know, Wall Street has tens of thousands of traders, but you can't do insider trading. It's OK to have boundaries and limits. and ask people to modify their consumption of alcohol or gambling or, you know, be ethical in terms of trading. It's okay. Things can be legal and, at the same time, be dangerous if consumed at a high level. Both are true. It's the herd.

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Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. My first guests is Paris Hilton, Shakira, Luke and Yerin, Samira and Gracie.

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I'm so excited. On the bouncy bed.

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You have surprises. Many surprises. Welcome to Suite 305, where the group chat comes to life. What up? It's like a way to say, hello, friend. Hello, best friend. Hello, sister. What up? Look, I've never talked to anyone. Except with my children. My children know.

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