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What's Wright - Game 4 REACTION: Knicks IMPOSSIBLE comeback, Wemby & Spurs CHOKE | NBA Finals Nick Wright
12 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright, episode 466. This episode of What's Right with Nick Wright is presented to you by Boost Mobile. And we are fresh off the heels of one of the greatest games in the history of the NBA. One of the greatest... Collapses in the history of major American sports. One of the wildest sporting events that I have ever watched. There are... You could do a...
12 hour podcast on this game and not adequately cover everything we will do our best to cover it over the next hour or so here also a few programming notes from now through the end of the World Cup our episodes will be coming out around this time
in the day we will go to a late afternoon East Coast early afternoon West Coast timeline because the TV show is on from 10 a.m to noon every day uh so that that is a programming note the other programming note tomorrow's show will be a lot of World Cup Team USA and general World Cup preview along with a game five preview.
And if the Knicks wrap this thing up in five on Saturday, we might do an episode that'll come out Monday rather than Tuesday. So all of that are the programming notes, which is why you don't have to worry about any of that. If you do subscribe to the pod on YouTube, Spotify, iTunes, or wherever you get your podcasts, Helps us out a lot if you subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, and or YouTube.
Demondze, good morning.
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Chapter 2: What were the highlights of Game 4 in the NBA Finals?
How are you? You are an adopted Spurs fan. I guess good evening, good afternoon, whatever. Who knows what time it is. I just get a little... Demondze, I get a little... Robotic on certain things, doing the pod. I think at a certain time, I'm going to say good morning. I did it with Ty Butler last week twice. I kept calling him Demonte. Good morning, Demonte.
Yeah, I kept ā and so I just ā I get a little bit autopiloted. You are ā An adopted Spurs fan. Yes. You at least, I think that's fair to say. Yeah. But Spurs too, I like what they have going on as a whole. Yeah, I think it's fair. So how are you doing this afternoon? Oh, that was rough. That was rough. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, that's a big collapse. And, yeah, shout out to the Knicks, though. I'm really happy for the Knicks. Some of their fans, I do think, need to chill out a little bit around the world. Sure. Or in NYC.
But it is a very, very, to me, likable team, the Knicks, those players. Yes. and it is such a team and josh hart earnestly and honestly saying thank you to og and anobi for saving me from basically a lifetime of heartache and pain was very real and josh hart was emotional after the game not in a we won way but in a i almost cost my team That to me was deeper than I almost cost my team.
If they would have lost that game, that was the type of ā I think whether he was thinking this consciously or not, it was a ā I almost defined my entire basketball life. There are certain plays that just will be ā are remembered as ā
who you are fair or not because they're so they stand out in history and they're so important and so now instead of that play defining potentially his basketball life It's something that will be forgotten by most people within days. It's really remarkable. So we'll get all into the game, every angle of it in just a moment. First straight to voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile.
The commanders have debuted a team dog. I did not know that. Speaking of dogs, folks falling for AI nonsense. Kirk Herbstreet did not have his dog with him courtside yesterday. at the game. Do not believe the picture you're seeing on the internet. Taylor Swift sits courtside at MSG. People got mad, I guess, because everybody gets mad at Taylor.
And Mexico, South Africa... She was just rooting for the Cavs a couple weeks ago. So it was just like... Well... It was a little bit of a strange thing.
Can I... Can I defend Taylor Swift for a moment? Okay. It does appear she has a history of being a Knicks fan, but her soon-to-be husband is a diehard Cavs fan and is from there. So it is, you know, like this isn't... She's not bandwagoning? I don't think so. The two teams she has been seen rooting for is a team in the Knicks that she was seen rooting for 12, 15 years ago.
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Chapter 3: How did the Knicks achieve their 29-point comeback?
I think what he spent on the tickets, he bet on the Knicks minus two. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? I couldn't imagine. Well, but I don't even, I'm not even saying, I mean, again, the guy's going to be, he's got, he has plenty, he does very, very well in life. But my point is, I, you are a diehard Knicks fan. You are in theory euphoric at the comeback.
And, you know, your family's celebrating. And then somewhere in your head, you're like, oh, my God. Yeah. This game, the tickets plus the bet plus this. So there's one story. I mean, that's a tough one. It's one of the reasons I am a big, big believer in. If I'm attending a sporting event, I'm only betting the money line of the team I'm pulling for.
You're like, if they're the favorite, I'm paying the juice and betting the money line. And if they're the underdog, I'm getting the plus money and betting the money line. Cause you don't want, like if you're rooting for a team and you're at a game and they're getting, say they're getting two and a half, no, three and a half, pardon me. And they're down three with five seconds left with the ball.
And you bet them plus three and a half. You don't want to find yourself like somewhere in your head, like rooting for them to miss the overtime forcing three. Like, so if you're in the building, yeah, you want to, whatever. Yeah. So one other, before we get to the next gambling story, this one, I will not have people remain anonymous.
My dear buddy, Nacho, who I talk about a lot, the poker, great Nacho Barbaro. He and I have been texting each other world cup bets and finals bets all week. And I text him yesterday, but he's somewhere in Europe, I think, right now. I text him yesterday because he asked me who I had. And I said, oh, I'm all over Nick's money line, which is what I had yesterday.
So it was one of the greatest, one of the craziest wins ever. He's in Europe, so it's a different time. He doesn't respond to me after I text him that. So the game, once the Knicks are down like 20, I text him. I'm like, hey, I'm glad you didn't see this. And you didn't bet it too. And at halftime, he finally reaches out. And he's like, no, no, no.
He's like, I had already bet the Knicks before you had texted. And I'm like, oh, my God. Well, we're both ruined here. Then the Knicks start coming back. We're texting each other, you know, this is insane, can't believe we're alive, blah, blah, blah. And then the Knicks win.
And I text him after the game like the little like, like the bottle popping emojis or the celebrate, all the celebration emojis, congrats, all of it. And he just dryly writes back, I had minus two. Oh, my God. I'm like, oh, boy.
Oh, my goodness.
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Chapter 4: What went wrong for the Spurs during their second-half collapse?
So, first let me go to the cat early fouls. I thought they were tough calls. The first one I hated to see. It probably was a foul, but you just hate that 45 seconds into the game. The second, the one that the Spurs challenged and got overturned, I was stunned. was overturned and turned into a foul on Cat. I could have seen them chat like, oh, it being overturned, no foul on Wimby.
I was stunned it was turned into a foul on Cat. And that obviously, for a time being, looked like it was, you know, the key moment of the game. The Knicks all of a sudden are playing Jeremy Sohan and Hock Porty and everything is thrown off. Mitch Robinson's dying out there. But more relevant was this, DeMons. I felt like the Knicks...
I felt like the first half of yesterday's game was one of the first times we've ever seen the Twitter algorithm maybe swing a finals game. Because here's my theory on it. And I said it after game three. Because I thought the officiating in game two was egregious. I thought the officiating in game three was not great, but wasn't the reason the Knicks lost. But Mike Brown talked about it.
And then it became the huge story. And it's all Knicks fans could talk about. I think because some of that was Twitter algorithm. The building... was so caught up in the officiating immediately. that it felt to me like the Knicks got caught up in the officiating and weren't playing their game.
Even though their free throw in the first half, Knicks fans are just beside themselves about the first half officiating. In the first half, the Spurs shot six free throws and the Knicks shot 23. And Knicks fans were livid with the refs. Just over, and listen, they did miss the goaltend, but I would have missed that too.
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Chapter 5: What role did coaching decisions play in the game's outcome?
Because I also thought that that was a lob by Alvarado, not a shot.
And then look, It didn't look like a lob, but yeah.
No, I'm saying it didn't look like a lob on the replay. For me, I'm just saying in real time, I thought he was throwing a lob to Mitchell Robinson. No, in real time, I thought it was a lob. But regardless, so the Knicks got right or wrong. The officiating stuff really distracted the Knicks in the first half and threw them off.
And Cat's foul trouble was a legit problem, but then I just think they got too caught up in that. So that's the first thing. Second thing is, and this is such a testament to the Knicks, I'm not going to act like I thought they were in good shape down 27. But at no point did I think, well, this is just dead and done over. And the moment... The... So... The Spurs get up 29.
Wimby commits that unlucky flagrant. And then the Knicks go on the only real run they went on the whole game. Other than this thing I'm about to show you here, the best run the Knicks had was 8-0. They didn't go on some insane elongated run. Except for... Down 29... They went on a 13-0 run to cut it to 16. That was the stage of the game that Barkley was just killing.
The Spurs because the Spurs shots during that 13-0 run were Kelton Johnson miss on the inside and miss tip in. Then Champinney missed three seven seconds into a shot clock. Harper missed three at the end of the shot clock. De'Aaron Fox turnover. Vassell missed three 12 seconds into the shot clock. Kelton Johnson missed three 11 seconds into the shot clock.
Fox missed three late in the shot clock. And then... Dylan Harper turnover. And... That and the Knicks all of a sudden are down 16. It was those five threes in a row. It was seven possessions of five threes and two turnovers that let the Knicks back in it. As soon as that happened to Monse, I thought they were alive. I was like, okay, 15 is nothing for this team. I really felt that way.
And it is noteworthy that last night was the fifth time in the last two years the Knicks have been down 20 in a playoff game and won. The rest of the league over the last two years, DeMonte, went down 20 in a playoff game, is 4-67. the Knicks are 5-3. It's unbelievable.
So that's... Then let me add to it, because they were down 15 at the end of the third, but then at the start of the fourth, the Spurs went on a 5-0 run and got up 20. How about this? As of three weeks ago, since 2003... There had been two fourth quarter, playoff fourth quarter 20 point comebacks in the playoffs.
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Chapter 6: How did Victor Wembanyama perform in the critical moments?
At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea?
It seemed very crazy.
But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out.
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All right, Demondze, let's talk about after the Brunson, I'm sorry, the OG tip-in, the Spurs final play.
Yeah, so I forgot who was inbounding it, but when I saw it live time, it kind of seemed like it didn't go where it was supposed to go. But yeah, Cat got his hand on the ball, and Castle had to wrestle around with it, couldn't get a shot up.
And the thing is this, the scorekeeper screwed up. Because the clock, since Cat touched the game, the clock should have started right then. Luckily, that didn't matter. That would have been awful. It's an unbelievable play by Cat. Because Castle had broken free.
Yes, it was wide open.
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