The High Conflict Co-Parenting Podcast
Episodes
Episode 316: Disengaging From The Psychopath with Attorney and Author Kerrie Droban Zhivago
05 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this powerful episode, Brook Olsen is joined by attorney and author Kerrie Droban Zhivago to unpack the terrifying yet often hidden reality of deal...
Episode 315: Children In Between with Dr. Donald Gordon
21 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Brook Olsen welcomes Dr. Donald Gordon, founder of the Center for Divorce Education and creator of Children in Between, to discuss ho...
Episode 314: Reconnecting to Yourself The Spiritual Journey of Divorce with Tamara Rowles
07 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Brook Olsen sits down with attorney, mediator, and DivorceWave founder Tamara Rowles to explore divorce as a spiritual journey and an...
Episode 313: Narcissist's Counterpart Echo with Author of Rethinking Narcissism Dr.Craig Malkin
24 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Brook Olsen is joined once again by Dr. Craig Malkin, author of Rethinking Narcissism, to explore the lesser-known counterpart to nar...
Episode 312: Unraveling old patterns and reconnecting to self With AnnMarie Chereso
01 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Brook talks with conscious relationship coach Annmarie Chereso about how to break free from unconscious patterns that fuel conflict—...
Episode 311: Radical Listening Beatin the Loneliness Epidemic and Building Deeper Human Connections
30 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the High Conflict Co-Parenting Podcast, Brook Olsen sits down with therapist and author Christian Van Norberg to explore the power ...
Episode 310: Covert Narcissism and Family Court with Kelli Avallone
23 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Brook sits down with family law attorney Kelli Avallone to unpack the tricky dynamics of covert narcissism in custody battles and hig...
Episode 309: Mindsets for Surviving Divorce with Kate Anthony
25 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Brook sits down with divorce coach Kate Anthony to unpack the mindsets that truly help during divorce, especially in high-conflict co...
Episode 308: Self-Love Deficit Disorder (SLDD) and It's Expressions
04 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Brook welcomes back Ross Rosenberg, author of The Human Magnet Syndrome and The Codependency Revolution, to dive deeper into the conc...
Episode 307: Body Language and Conflict with John Riley
20 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Brook speaks with John Riley from Gentle Response about the impact of body language in high-conflict co-parenting. They explore the A...
Episode 306: Growing Through Conflict with author Dana Caspersen
06 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Brook Olsen welcomes conflict engagement specialist and bestselling author Dana Caspersen to discuss how conflict can be an opportuni...
Episode 305: Creating Better Outcomes: The Power of Initial Conditions with Karen McNenny
27 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Brook welcomes Karen McEnany, The Good Divorce Coach, to discuss how setting the right foundation in divorce can significantly impact...
Episode 302 Conflict Detox Reducing Emotional Reactivity with Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry from Been There Got Out
30 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and his guests Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry from the podcast Been There Got Out discuss the notion of High Conflict Detox. This ...
Episode 301: The Science and Art of Engagement with Author Rich Carr
13 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook has guest Rich Carr author of Surprised: The Science and Art of Engagement. Rich brings a bright and engaging look at how we as ...
Episode 304 Polyvagal Theory and The Science of Feeling Safe with Dr. Stephen Porges
11 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook has esteemed guest, researcher, professor and author of the Polyvagal Theory, Dr. Steven Porges. Brook and Dr. Porges have a rob...
Episode 303 Supporting Families with Neurodiverse Children With Elaine Taylor
11 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook has guest Elaine Taylor-Klaus, Author and Co-Founder of Impact Parents. Brook and Elaine have a robust conversation about parent...
Episode 302 Conflict Detox_ Reducing Emotional Reactivity with Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry from Been There Got Out
11 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and his guests Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry from the podcast Been There Got Out discuss the notion of High Conflict Detox. This ...
Episode 300: Disasterous Divorce To Priceless Relationship With Your Kids with Derrick Chevalier
10 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and his guest Derrick Chevalier discuss in depth the interconnection between negotiation in divorce and custody and first unde...
Episode 299 Getting Ahead of The Holiday Chaos with Michelle Mitchell
08 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle take another deeper dive into the subject of preparing for and dealing with the stresses of the holidays. When d...
Episode 298 Projection, Transference and Countertransference, Making it Personal
18 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook has special guest Nicola Ranson L.C.S.W. Brook and Nicola discuss the concepts of Transference and Projection as pertain to work...
Episode 297 Client/Attorney Management
20 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this Episode Brook has as his special guest Attorney Kelli Avallone in to discuss the frustrations that clients have when dealing with their attorn...
Episode 296 Anxiety and How it Drives Conflict
06 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony delve into the notion of how anxiety is one of if not the main driver of conflict and at the base understanding this ...
Episode 295 Finding Refuge From The Email Carpet Bombing
23 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle discuss the narcissistic practice of email Carpet Bombing. This is the practice of incessantly sending repeated ema...
Episode 294 Legal Abuse and Going it Pro Se With Chris Barry and Lisa Johnson from Been There Got Out
09 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook has special guest Lisa Johnson from Been There Got Out to discuss how High Conflict Personalities can drive legal abuse in the...
Episode 292 The Tightrope Act of Keeping The Kids Out of the Middle
26 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle discuss the struggles that come with dealing with a ex that isn't on the same page and exhibits narcissist like beh...
Episode 293 High Conflict Co-Parenting Combating Harassment and Abuse An Interview with Talking Parents
19 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook Olsen and Kelli Avallone Join the Talking Parents team on their Co-Parenting and Coffee webinar to discuss Parallel Parenting an...
Episode 287 Competency vs Capacity
19 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the High Conflict Co-Parenting Podcast Brook and Tony discuss the difference between Capacity and Competency and that building of t...
Episode 286 Where Did It All Go Forensics and Tracing Assets
12 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook speaks with Attorney Kelli Avallone about the in's and out's, Features and Down sides of teaching for "Hidden Assets". Finding A...
Episode 285 Navigating Kids & Tech Doesn't Have to Be Scary
05 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook speaks with guest Forest Bronzon from Digital Detox. Forest is the CEO of Digital Detox whose goal and purpose is to educate par...
Episode 282 Cyber Security, Keeping Yourself Safe During Divorce and Custody
15 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook has special guest David Forrestall CEO of SecurIT360 to talk about how to best secure you and you children from the ability of y...
Episode 263 Divorce Financial Planning, This Can't Be Overlooked, With Justin Reckers CFP CDFA
20 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook has special guest Divorce Financial Planner Justin Reckers to discuss the importance of understanding your financial future and ...
Episode 242 Overcoming Power Differentials Costs and Benefits Revised
30 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle discuss the variety of ways we get stuck in power differential when trying to navigate financial and custody fights...
Episode 241 Attuning to Your Children During High Conflict Times with Your EX
19 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony have a deep discussion about the responsibility of parents to take notice of where they get lost in the chaos of the hi...
Episode 240 The Reflection Pool
12 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook talks about the need to periodically stop and reflect on where we have been, the journey we have traveled to this point and the ...
Episode 238 Raising Your Children, Leading While Following
28 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony take another look at parenting and the importance of attainment with your children and the special attention that is es...
Episode 237 When the Path of Least Resistance Creates More Chaos
21 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle discuss how the process of conflict as it unfolds as a condition of anxiety and often a want for expediency with on...
Episode 235 Blind Spots, Why We Keep Expecting Something Different From Our Exe's and How it Blindsides Us
07 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle discuss the Blind Spots that arise from having unrealistic expectations about the other parents reactions to a give...
Episode 234 Beliefs, The Center of Conflict
31 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony take another dive into the concepts and traps of belief systems and how they lock us into conflict and are in fact the ...
Episode 233 The Mind Trap of the Notion of Fair
24 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle discuss the conflict mind trap the parents find themselves in when they try to look at the parenting conflicts thro...
Episode 231 Spring and Summer What Will It Be Flowers or Poison Oak
10 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony discuss the need for seasonal preparedness in getting ready for the challenges that come with Spring and Summer travel,...
Episode 230 Emotional Blackmail, A Double Bind Conversation Leading From Entitlement to Weaponization
03 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony discuss how children often use Emotional Blackmail and put their parents in areas of discomfort to get what the want. T...
Episode 229 A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing An Exploration of Covert Narcissism and the Chaos it Elicits
24 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle discuss the behaviors and signs that come along with the Covert Narcissists defensive presentations. This is an ext...
Episode 228 How To Have Hard Conversations With Your Children with Author Sara Olsher
17 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook has special author Sara Olsher to discuss the importance for parents to have special language to speak with their children about...
Episode 227 Initial Conditions A Different Look at the Development of the Conflict Triangle
10 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle discuss the initial conditions that create the beliefs and Pseudo-solutions that develop in narcissism and borderli...
Episode 226 Gratitude, Moving Beyond Stuck and Into Agency
03 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
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Episode 224 Connecting With Your Children Through Positive Anticipation
20 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
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Episode 223 Parental Expectations and Children's Anxiety
13 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle discuss how one parents push and their high and unreasonable exceptions cause great levels of anxiety and long term...
Episode 222 Narcissistic Control and the Chaos Machine Narcissistic Control and the Chaos Machine Take 2
06 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
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Episode 221 Is It a Preferred Parent, Targeted Parent, Resist and Refuse or Alienation and How to Move Forward
30 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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Episode 219 Revenge and The Unconscious and Conscious Weaponizing Of The Children
16 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle discuss how some parents are in revenge mode and use the children as weapons both consciously and unconsciously. Br...
Episode 218 The Disengagement Dilemma
09 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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Episode 217 How To Communicate Like a Buddhist Inside and Out With Author Cynthia Kane
02 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook welcomes special guest Cynthia Kane, author of the book Communicate Like.A Buddhist. Brook and Cynthia discuss the principles of...
Episode 216 Divorce and Bankruptcy With Attorney John Varley
25 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook has special guest Attorney John Varley to discuss bankruptcy before, during or after divorce as a tool to regain financial stabi...
Episode 215 The Ghost of Christmas Past is the Ghost of Christmas Now and the Ghost of Christmas Future
18 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss how the recurring patterns and habits of conflict tend to reappear for both you and your Ex. during times of...
Episode 213 Helping the Kids Navigate a Boundaried Parenting Plan
04 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this Episode Brook and Michelle discuss how to help children understand and navigate boundaried parenting plans (Parallel Parenting Plan) with sche...
Episode 212 Holding Boundaries, Keeping Aware, Utilizing Timing and Opportunity (Don't Miss It)
28 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Michelle have a conversation about the importance of staying aware of when important events and occur and boundaries crossed...
Episode 129 The Great Opening (Start Now)
12 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony talk about the need to start thinking about how to re-readjust to the changing world of Covid-19 as we begin to open up...
Episode 113 Covid Holidays
20 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony discuss the extra strains that Covid 19 put on families involved in High Conflict during the holidays and some solution...
Episode 106 The Step Parent Trap Part 1 Step Mom
02 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie bring in a guest Step Mom to have a conversation of the perils of being a Step Mom and a look at the different persp...
Episode 105 Parallel Parenting IS CO-Parenting
25 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss the Parallel Parenting model and discuss the importance of changing the narrative so people understand that ...
Episode 104 Covid Crazy and the Great Divide, Not just Covid
18 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony talk about the added intensity and division that the Covid 19 has brought to the families in high conflict as well as t...
Episode 98 Going it Alone, Getting Lost In The Woods
07 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss just how easy it is to go astray and get lost in the deep woods of high conflict when you haven't put togeth...
Episode 90 Watch, Wait, Move With Awareness
05 Jun 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony discuss how the current circumstances of the Covid virus are magnifying everything. Our fear, our clinging to our belie...
Episode 89 Revisiting Sensation Tolerating During Covid 19
29 May 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Tony discuss how the current circumstances of the Covid virus are magnifying everything. Our fear, our clinging to our belie...
Episode 88 Fear, Freeze, and Opening the Window to Movement
22 May 2020
Contributed by Lukas
n this episode Brook and Charlie discuss how Fear and Freeze keep us stuck and from moving forward with the opportunities presented us and how we can ...
Episode 83The Manhole Story, Breaking Patterns
17 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie talk about the Manhole Story and how as humans we have unconscious blind spot that keep us doing the same thing over...
Episode 81 Covid 19 and Beyond_ Everything Has Changed, Orienting to The New Realities
03 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss the dramatic changes the cover-19 pandemic have created for everyone, especially those caught in high confli...
Episode 80 Covid-19 and Custody Exchanges. Dealing With the Chaos In Uncharted Territory With Attorney Julie Mack
27 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook has a discussion with attorney Julie Mack about navigating the uncharted territory we are facing with the Covid 19 outbreak, the...
Episode 79 Exploring the Internal Conflict In Order to Resolve the External Conflict
20 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie explore how looking at the internal components of Conflcit, meaning those sensations and internal beliefs that live ...
Episode 78.5 Covid-19 and Parallel Parenting
13 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss some of the struggles and ramifications in making decisions around navigating the Covid-19 situation! I hope...
Episode 78 High Conflict An Epidemic Perspective
13 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss the epidemic of High Conflict, How to detect it, How to protect from it and how to inoculate your children f...
Episode 74 Players in the Drama Triangle (What is Your Role)
14 Feb 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss the Drama Triangle and how each of us enter the triangle and perpetuate the cycle of conflict. This is a sim...
Episode 53 Tis The Season
20 Sep 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss the need to anticipate holiday challenges and to be proactive in dealing with them and not waiting for the l...
Episode 52 What's Yor Story Morning Glory
13 Sep 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss the perils of the stories we have and how they have distortions and how those distortions are created. When ...
Episode 49 Rat Tangle with Eric Sjoberg
23 Aug 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie are joined again with Eric Sjoberg as they discuss the concept of the Rat Tangle. The Rat tangle has a great deal to...
Episode 43 Doing The Right Thing All The Time For The Right Reason
08 Jul 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie talk about the crucial thought process that goes into managing the conflict, that of always doing the right thing fo...
Episode 40 Divorce and Finance
21 Jun 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie talk about how finances can be a major factor in conflict and some of the ways to get a perspective on how to maximi...
Episode 38 The Flypaper Effect (Don't Touch It)
07 Jun 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss the Flypaper Effect. How High Conflict Personalities attract us into and get us entangled in conflict, in su...
Episode 37 What is the Fight About (Assessing the Etiology of the Conflict)
31 May 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie have a conversation about the structure and components that make up conflict. If you are finding these podcast of va...
Episode 36 Choices, Change, Conflict
25 May 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss Choices, Change and Conflict. How when we begin to make choices toward health, the change that is created ca...
Episode 35 Children in the Middle (Don't Let It Happen)
17 May 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this session Brook and Charlie discuss the pitfalls of putting the children in the middle of the conflict and the unconcious ways many parents do i...
Episode 32 Anxiousness
26 Apr 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss how anxiousness is often the root cause or nexus in the creation of the conflict cycle and how the anxiousne...
The Game of What if (The Practice of Taking Control)
08 Feb 2019
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Brook and Charlie discuss the Game of What IF. This is a mental practice of learning how to do things differently in ways that sometim...
HCCP Episode 000-What This Podcast is About
11 Sep 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Co-Parenting is the relationship that never ends. If your ex is difficult to deal with, if you are are experiencing high-conflict and/or the children ...