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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hello, podcast beans. Welcome along to episode 271 of the Howie Games Part A, featuring Socceroo legend, Harry Kuehl.
Harry Kuehl. Kuehl. Kuehl. Oh, what a goal. Harry Kuehl has scored. Kuehl has scored. Kuehl scores. Kuehl has found a bit of space here. Towards Kennedy.
Chapter 2: What does Harry Kewell remember about his iconic 2006 World Cup goal?
Might drop for Kuehl. Harry Kuehl has diced.
It just had to be Harry. Harry was a total star from Leeds to Liverpool to the biggest stages in world football, the Premier League, Champions League, World Cups. Harry carried the hopes of Australia every time he pulled on the green and gold. Harry is currently starring, and I mean starring on SBS as an analyst. When he talks football, I listen.
SBS is where you can watch all, all 104 matches of the FIFA World Cup live and free with SBS and SBS On Demand right now. How good? Turn on SBS now. There will be football on. Thanks to Millie Palmer, the superstar from SBS, for making this episode possible. Enjoy the story of Harry Coole. Talismanic.
So when you search and then you find And know just where to go And thoughts that once used to cloud your mind You see clearly and now you know Mystery, what is to be Revealed in King Selassie Come on children, stride with me We want to reach Mount Sinai
Well, we are pumped on the Howie Games to have this man on the show. I'm not going to mess around. He is my favourite soccerer of all time. He played for Leeds. He played for Liverpool. He played in Turkey. He dominated for the Socceroos. And if he's not good at all those things, he's a manager. But more than that, I've seen a lot of him on SBS over the last three days.
And he bloody, he's a star on the TV as well. So it's almost annoying how good this man is at life. Harry Kuehl, welcome to the Howie Games, mate. I'm pumped to have you on.
Cheers Howie and thank you for the lovely introduction I mean I've had a couple now and people are really hitting to my heart here how they're saying that like you kind of forget it's so nice that people kind of remind you of all the things that you've kind of done in the game and so thank you for that lovely introduction mate.
Well, mate, this hour is about you, but I could run off moments where I have been when you scored in the World Cup, when you were over there in the Iran qualifier as a kid.
It's a chance here for Kuehl. A goal for Australia. A brilliant start for the Socceroos. And it's Harry Kuehl, the 19-year-old, who has opened the scoring.
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Chapter 3: How did Harry Kewell rise to fame in football?
That ball had the pace that fell into his path. And again, then that's when Aaron Kunta took over. And his first touch took the whole Turkish defense out of play. And with that pass, when he took it past him, again, I think that he even caught the keeper off guard. And then as we're watching this, we're all going, wow, is this the moment? And we're all getting on the edge.
And this is where you start edging from leaning back to the edge of your seat and you're getting on your ā is it, is it, is it, is it? And then he's actually taking the shot. And like I said ā
Usually in that position there, he's very brave going near post, like very brave because usually keepers have the near post covered and then usually go for the far post because it's an easier kind of shot. But his ability to be able to play at near post and then obviously hearing and seeing the ball ripple in the back of the net, I mean, we all just went nuts. We all just went crazy.
And it wasn't even like everyone in the studio was going crazy. And that was a moment that, like I said, for a young soccerer to be given the nod and there was questions whether he was going to start or not. You know, can he last? Like that was the moment for him and he took it. So fantastic. Congratulations to him.
So the summation there, when I talked about you're a star on TV, I get to sit next to a lot of AFL footballers who do the specials on the games and cricketers who do the same all summer. But I loved the analysis description you just gave then in the moment and on the coverage.
It came through on SBS, Harry, that not only are you extremely in tune with the game, but you've got a massive passion for it. And I love that. I loved seeing your excitement as it was happening.
The one thing that I've learnt, right, especially being a coach and I have to say how we ā and this is going to become probably a shock to a lot of you is I actually prefer coaching towards playing. Yeah. I think it's maybe because as a player ā I was telling a lot of my players where to go and what to do. I was an organizer.
And if I came across a coach that allowed me to do that, I kind of excelled because I was one of these players that ā
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Chapter 4: What lessons did Harry learn from playing rugby league as a child?
If a team marked me or double marked me, I'd be able to move and I'd talk to my players and say, look, I'm getting marked here or double marked. I'm going to move out. There's a gap that's going to be in there for you and be able to do, oh, you know what? I'm not feeling this movement pattern. Let's be able to change it.
So I've always been a talker on the pitch and been able to move and be adaptive on the pitch. So being able to communicate that as a coach, it is probably ā The biggest thrill in football for me is teaching someone and being able to give them information all week. And then when you get to that white line, I can't go no further.
So it's all about how I've given my information to the team or to that player and then seeing them do that on the pitch. It's like one of the proudest moments you can have.
It's so cool. We'll get to your career, mate, but obviously your managerial career throughout the UK and then over in Japan with Marinos, but you're in Vietnam at the moment. And when Millie was trying to organise this initially, she said, oh, maybe Harry can do it from Hanoi. And I must say, I thought, oh, what the... the bloody hell is Harry Cure doing Hanoi? But you're coaching over there.
So team aside, you've got a beautiful family. You've got kids. How's life in Vietnam as a football coach with your family and everything going on away from the pitch, mate? What an experience for your family.
Again, it's a tough one because obviously my family have their own. My kids have virtually all grown up. I've got a son who's 24 and I've got three daughters, 23, one who's just started a new job, one who's just got a job, and my youngest is still at school. And my wife still works. So it's very hard to up and move all of them across.
So I'm there by myself while I'm there with my coaches at the moment. And as a manager and as a coach, it's 24-7. You know, that's the hardest thing is juggling family life and coaching life because if you're going to be a manager, you've got to be there 24-7, you know. And the opportunity came up to obviously coach in Hanoi and it never fazed me.
It's very tough, especially in this day and age now, to be able to get handed an opportunity. So when this opportunity came up, I was jumping at it because, one, to live in a different country, To get a different experience, to work with different types of players, because this is only going to benefit me in the long run, to be able to get all these experiences.
And again, I feel from my coaching career, from coaching in England, to going to Glasgow to work with Ange, to progressing into Yokohama, then going to Vietnam, Even I feel my coaching is going to a different level and getting stronger and stronger, but that's only through my own experience. Some people say you're lucky or this, that. I look at it as being brave.
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Chapter 5: What are Harry Kewell's thoughts on coaching compared to playing?
You win 3-2, which I think sends the title to Man U, which would have been a tough one for Leeds fans, to be fair. You scored five minutes in.
And the longer ball is aimed by Wilcox for Kuehl. Kuehl one on two. Kuehl goes for goal. That is one of the greatest goals you will ever see. It's a phenomenal strike from the Australian. And what a fillet for Leeds United.
What a blow for Arsene Wenger. But I watched that and it was, what's the best way to describe it? It was like you were dancing on the pitch, Harry. You were dancing around dudes. It was very, very nice to watch.
I remember the game. I remember the goal. I remember moments. But like I said, you do kind of forget. And people always ask, like you said, they go, oh, my God, you were this, you were that. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I was okay, right? And then there was a moment where someone had put like about a seven-minute clip of my Leeds highlights.
And because obviously throughout my career, especially Leeds, I was not injured. And then obviously Liverpool, that's when all my injuries hit. And that's when it kind of stopped because of the ā and I battled to try and get it. But you kind of forget and they put this seven-minute clip together And they put good songs to it.
And after watching, I actually said to myself, I said, damn, I actually wasn't that bad.
Oh, come on, mate. You're a star.
Oh, what a goal from Harry Kuehl. That was sensational. But I always remember then it kind of flows back into my mind like how I used to play was and I used to demand the ball. Everywhere I went, I'd just say, give me the ball. And when I played with players, they gave me the ball. And I used to just watch. I used to just get the ball and run. I should just get the ball and run.
And I remember Adidas coming out with this promo, right, about all the top players in there. And I was on one of them. And the wording was that if you can't get the ball off a player, you can enlist the help from the officials.
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Chapter 6: How does Harry Kewell manage family life while coaching in Vietnam?
I had conversations. I met AC Milan at the time. There was rumors of obviously Barcelona, PSG, all these top clubs. I suppose it was an exciting time for me, and I wanted to play football, and I wanted to go somewhere where I could make a difference. And when I sat down, and not only with ā I sat down with a few managers. I sat down with Gerard Houllier. The way he spoke about football ā
It was incredible. I mean, the French, how they speak anyway. You kind of get dazed by the way they speak about it. But the way he brought football to me, I just thought, wow, this is an opportunity for me to really become. And obviously, it's Liverpool, which is a huge pulling card anyway. But
I did have other opportunities and I always say as well that I met Arsene Wenger after Gerard Houllier. And I think if I'd have met them the other way around, it could have been a different story. But for me, going there to Liverpool and I think there was a YouTube clip or something of me when I was about 13 years old. I was at my academy at Park Lee doing my session, and my coach was videoing.
He videoed all the players, and you had to stand in front, introduce yourself, what position, and what do you want to do? And Oscar goes to me, Harry, go and introduce yourself. I said, hi, I'm Harry Kuehl, left midfielder. He goes, okay, well, what do you want to do? I went, duh, and I had my Liverpool top on. I said, I'm going to play for these.
And that was 10 years ago to the day that I actually signed for Liverpool. So it was meant to be.
You mentioned injuries, which is a big part of any athlete's story. You won a Champions League, which... He saved it!
The European Cup is returning to England and to Anfield. Liverpool are champions of Europe again.
But in many ways, the groin issue came up in there and you left the ground early. How did you deal with that particular instance? Because you got some negativity towards you. And how did you deal with the injuries over the years? Because the amount of times I read the groin kept flaring up and causing you issues. We've talked about the great side of professional sport.
What's the difficult side of professional sport like? And how did you work your way through it, mate?
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