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Chapter 1: What are the five greatest Australian songs of all time?
a listener production. Now, just before you tune in to what may be my favourite episode of all time on The Howie Games, yep, true story, we have created a Spotify playlist with all the songs mentioned in this podcast accessible via the link to Spotify in the show notes. Or you can Google as you go and get a vibe for some of those tunes you may not know. Alrighty, let's go.
Got a nice beat to it, hasn't it, Chieftain? You're starting to groove that little opener, aren't you? You weren't sure early, but... It's warming.
It's warming on me.
Welcome along to the Howie Games. Big Five with my sporting hero, a man that kicked 1,254 goals, used to have a magnificent mullet, Jason Dunst. Will you miss that hair?
I miss any hair. Don't care what style. Any hair would have been good, Howie. Today...
When I first thought about this concept and hoped that you would be involved, this topic was designed for you and you alone. It's also the one that I've grappled with the most. I've got no doubt.
It's upset me at times.
We're talking big five Aussie songs. Before we get to the preamble... What's your love of music? Where's it from?
Because you love music and you have an encyclopedic knowledge of it. I don't know why. I've just always loved music, loved listening to it, worked in radio a long time, so you're around music, grew up going to see bands. So when I grew up, when I was a teenager – It was the hotspot for Australian bands.
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Chapter 2: How did Paul Kelly become a significant figure in Australian music?
So you remember when we were in lockdown through COVID. Yeah. You could go and do, if you wanted to travel interstate, you had to go into quarantine. Yeah. I was going to Queensland at the end of one year and there was talk that they would open the borders, but it just wasn't happening.
So I went to Darwin and did a week in quarantine at an old mining settlement camp up there just outside of Darwin where they were running quarantine camps and then you could travel wherever you wanted to go. Joe Camilleri was there at the same time. In the camp? In the camp. They were just like cabins, rows of cabins, right? And one evening, he held a little impromptu.
He just grabbed the guitar, sat on the little porch outside your tiny cabin.
A COVID concert.
And played a little bit.
Did he? Correct. How good is that? Amazing. Before we get started, so you're an expert in your field. So I felt under-equipped for this. So I had to phone a friend. No experts in this house. It's just what do you love? What do you like? Well, we have an expert today that is about to walk into this studio unannounced to help us with our big five Australian songs of all time.
You may have heard of this bloke. You may not. His name is Paul Kelly. The great man is here.
How are you? Great to see you. Give me a hug. Thank you so much.
Good to see you again. Jason Paul. How are you, mate? Pleasure. Have a seat right here. All right. I've got a bit of stuff here.
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Chapter 3: What personal stories does Paul Kelly share about his career?
That is really cool, isn't it?
That's giving me tingles.
Thank you, Paul, for delivering that. I'm incredibly flattered. Incredibly flattered.
Okay. So all I can say. Do we still have to do this? We do. And if you don't have him in there, Chief, he's just a bum about you.
I don't know. Is there a point where I can just take a 30-second break? No, you can't. Oh, Howie. I'm so nervous now. You nervous? I've never seen you off edge before. Just get down.
You're the alpha in the jungle, my friend.
I'm just looking at the songs I've picked.
No, there's no going back now. Don't show me your screens, guys. No, there's no going back now. All right, it is time for... I'm playing cards. Five. Five. Five. Number... We are going to go in this order. Chief, myself, then you, Paul. Okay? Okay. So the other thing about this is our man will know a lot of these people and he's probably performed with quite a few of them, Chief. All right.
You're shitting yourself, which I'm enjoying, Chief. All right, number five, where are you going?
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Chapter 4: What criteria did the hosts use to select their top Aussie songs?
Silverchair. So the song's Tomorrow.
Ah, good one, Chief. And I love it. Why?
So these guys, when they wrote this song, 15 years old. 15. 15. And they classify this as one of their least serious songs, which I don't understand why.
And the motivation, Daniel Johns talked about it, Riley was a poor guy, was talking to a rich guy in a hotel, showing him through the hotel, showing him people that are less fortunate than him because the rich guy's just whinging and wants to get out of there. He says, well, you can't go until tomorrow. That was the germination of the song.
But I just – their ability to do this at such a young age and the – The heavy guitar that I love in it too, particularly in this song. And Daniel Johns' voice I think is spectacular. So they to me were – I'll tell you something about this song. So they were performing as the Innocent Criminals.
which was Daniel Johns and Ben Gillies who wrote it and Chris Jane who was the other one, they won a national band competition with a demo tape of this in 1994. One of my apologies was Silver Chair Straight Lines, Chief.
Yeah. That was probably the second song I considered of theirs. That would be my favourite Silver Chair song, Straight Lines, but I didn't make it. My number four. Okay. Okay. I think in your big five Aussie songs, Paul and Chieftain, you need something with an absolutely banging guitar riff to get yourself underway. You know, almost one you can bang your head to. Not the type of stuff you play.
I'm not sure for the type of stuff you listen to, Chief. And I went through the entire ACDC catalogue and I got to Thunderstruck. I got to Thunderstruck, and it came between that and this, and I went for this. Now, I'm not prepared to sing, but I'm going to try. It's unlike you. Well, I might later if I get a bit of confidence under the belt.
I'm going to try and mouth the guitar riff for you, and you see if you can get it, okay? So it goes, how does it go? So to me, it's the start of the song where it's all about. It goes... And then the drums come in. And then the neck guitar is. Said the joker is a wanted man. Makes his way all across the land. Got it, chief? See him sifting through the sand.
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Chapter 5: What songs made it into the top five countdown?
Okay, put it up on your board.
Great song.
Put it up on your board.
And, you know, that's the thing, that raining there in London, so immediately you've got this visual of the song. Yep. That's what hooks the memory in, I think, in some ways.
Number three for me, if you haven't held someone in your arms, Paul, and sung this song to them, then you haven't lived. You've serenaded with this song, Harry. Howie. Yeah, probably after a couple. In various venues. The single only was released in 1984. 84, okay. Then it went into a live version in the 1985 album.
But then it was put on a slightly different version again in a 1986 album, and that's when it's popped.
Yeah.
So it had a few goes at it.
Lyric?
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Chapter 6: How do personal experiences influence music choices?
I did like the Kick album.
I thought that was a ripper. I also love, funnily enough, one of the songs that I love best about theirs was a cover, was The Loved Ones. Hmm. Hmm. which I thought they did just a brilliant version. I mean, The Loved Ones did a great version. I mean, their original of The Loved Ones was fantastic, but it lost nothing when Michael Hutchins did it.
Yeah, I almost had The Loved Ones from The Loved Ones on my list.
Are you going with an excess song, just one you would – a banger for you? That would have been my – that's probably my favourite of theirs, even though they didn't do the original.
You got an excess song that captures you, Paul?
Oh, quite a few. But, you know, don't stop, just keep walking. Never tear us apart.
Their older stuff to me was better. Uh-huh. So what do you – give me the lyrics.
Don't ask me.
What you know is true. Yeah, you've gone with it. Please, you've gone mainstream.
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Chapter 7: What are the most memorable performances of these songs?
They probably wouldn't have this one. Okay. But I can't give you the first line because that has the name of the song in it, but one short line should give it to you. Pack my bags to no place in no time, no day. Are we going to get you to hunt? You and I, we used each other's shoulder. Still so young but somehow so much older. How can I go home and not get blown away? Oh, my God.
Paul, what's happened to you? I don't know. I don't know. Sing it, man. I've hit a wall.
Just sing it. I just gave you the whole first verse. Sing the chorus. I'm not singing it. Chief, turn your back from the camera. Put your hat over your head. No. Cash, turn the cameras off.
No and no.
I'm telling you right now.
The band is Cold Chisel. Okay. Yeah. It's a ballad.
Say the words again.
Pack my bags to no place in no time, no day. You and I, we used each other's shoulder. Still so young, but somehow so much older. How can I go home and not get blown away?
Don't interrupt me singing.
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