The IMAGEN Golf Podcast

F-O-R-E Friday - The Dirty Truth About Your Clubs

27 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

In this Four Minute Friday mini-episode, host Daniel Guest reveals a simple, zero-swing-change secret to instantly improving your consistency, tighten...

Stop Grinding on the Wrong Things: 3 Real-World Swing Interventions

26 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Are you putting in hours at the range but still not seeing your handicap drop? You’re not alone. This week on The IMAGEN Golf Podcast, Daniel Guest ...

F-O-R-E Friday - Do you swing to the ball or through the ball?

20 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

In this FORE Friday mini-episode, host Daniel Guest tackles one of the most common—and costly—illusions in amateur golf: treating the golf ball as...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - The Secret to Better Ball Striking? Stop Hitting the Ball!

13 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Are you a "range hero" but a "course zero"? Do your practice swings look like a Tour pro's, but the second you step up to an actual golf ball, your me...

Cracking the Course Management Code with DECADE's Scott Fawcett

10 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Want to lower your handicap without changing a single thing about your swing? It sounds like magic, but it’s actually just math.In this episode of t...

Stop Sabotaging Your Score: 5 Golf Ball Myths Busted by a Top 100 Coach

04 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Are you making the game of golf harder than it needs to be? If you are teeing up the wrong golf ball based on bad advice, you are costing yourself str...

Putting with a Brain — How Genius Golf is Revolutionizing the Short Game

22 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

"Golf doesn't have to be so hard!" – but it usually feels that way when you’re standing over a four-footer for par.In this episode, host Daniel Gu...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - The "Back-of-the-Green" Blueprint

19 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Today we’re tackling the single biggest scorecard killer in amateur golf: the short miss.Let’s be honest—most of us are optimists. We see a pin ...

The Resurrection of Anthony Kim: 5,795 Days to Redemption

15 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

It is arguably the greatest comeback story in the history of professional golf.In this emotional and high-energy episode of the Imagen Golf Podcast, h...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Why "Never Up, Never In" is Costing You Strokes

13 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

"Never up, never in." It’s the most overused cliché in golf, usually chirped by a playing partner right after you leave a 20-footer just inches sho...

580 Rounds in 365 Days: The RGV Tour 2.0 with Patrick Koenig

09 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Can you imagine playing 1.6 rounds of golf every single day for an entire year?On this episode of the Imagen Golf Podcast, Daniel Guest sits down with...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Why You Need to STOP Hitting the Ball to Start Striking It

07 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Are you addicted to the range? Do you stripe it in practice swings but lose it the second a ball is in front of you?In this edition of Fore Minute Fri...

The Holy Grail of Contact: Mastering the Flat Lead Wrist

03 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Are you tired of weak slices, fat shots, or inconsistent contact? The difference between a frustrated amateur and a flushed iron shot often comes down...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Stop Swinging Like a Statue, My Time With Dr. Joe LaCaze

23 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Are you a golfer, or are you an athlete playing golf? There is a huge difference, and it’s showing up on your scorecard.In this edition of FORE Minu...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Why You Need to Check Your Ego & Crank Up the Loft

17 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Are you sabotaging your golf game before you even take the club back? In this edition of FORE Minute Friday, we tackle the single most common equipmen...

Stop Letting Your Tee Steal Your Yardage with Mark Chantal

12 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Are you spending $600 on a new driver to gain 5 yards, but ignoring the one piece of equipment you use on every single hole?In this episode of the Ima...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - The Hogan Power Move: Inside the Right Heel

09 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Are you leaking power at the top of your backswing?It often comes down to one common fault: letting your weight slide to the outside of your foot. In ...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - The Best $20 Investment You Can Make for Your Game (It’s Not a Club)

02 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

It’s that time of year. The clubs are in the garage, the weather is turning, and the "Gear Acquisition Syndrome" is kicking in. You’re scrolling t...

The Magic Behind The Orange Whip - With Founder Jim Hackenberg

30 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Is your garage a "gadget graveyard" filled with training aids that promised the world but delivered nothing?In this episode of the Imagen Golf Podcast...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday -The Great Post-Holiday Exchange: Why You Need to Return That Gag Gift

27 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome back to another edition of FORE Minute Fridays here on the Imagen Golf Podcast! I’m your host, Daniel Guest, and I hope you all had a fantas...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Are You Fixing the Symptom or the Disease?

19 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It is FORE Friday, folks! The weekend is on the tee, the fairways are calling, and we are here to get your mind right before you take that first swing...

The 2026 Gear Drop & The "Silly Season" Truth

17 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

"Welcome back to the IMAGEN Golf Podcast. I’m your host, Daniel Guest. As always, we are here with one simple mission: to help you play the best gol...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - "The 'Living Room' Putt That Saves You 5 Strokes"

13 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Think the off-season is just for resting? Not if you want to lower your handicap.It’s December, it’s cold, and the clubs are likely in the garage—...

From Correctional Center to the Golf Course – The Cedar Creek Golf Club Story

12 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We often say that "golf is a microcosm of life," but in this episode of the Imagen Golf Podcast, that phrase takes on a profound new meaning. Daniel s...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - The Window of Power: Why We Need "Daylight" in the Backswing

05 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome back to another edition of the Imagen Golf Podcast! I am your host, Daniel Guest, and as always, we are here with one simple mission: to help ...

Stop the Madness! The 4 Pillars of a Great Golf Swing

05 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome back, everyone, to the Imagen Golf Podcast! I am Daniel Guest, and I am so fired up for today’s episode.If you are listening to this right n...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - "The Only Perfect Lie You Get"

23 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome back to another episode of the Imagen Golf Podcast. I’m your host, Daniel Guest, and I am thrilled you are here with ...

Why You Need A Stock Shot, It's Your Superpower!

17 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome back to The IMAGEN Golf Podcast, everyone. I'm your host, Daniel Guest, and it is great to be with you. You know, we spend a lot of time on th...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – Stop Digging Your Own Grave - Why the Wrong Drills Kill Your Game 🏌️‍♂️

15 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

🛑 The Detriment of the Mismatched DrillHere's the problem in a nutshell: a drill is a fix for a specific problem. If you use a drill for a problem ...

The Scorecard Shift: How to Stop the Blow-Ups and Start Scoring

10 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Are you tired of heading to the course and walking off the 18th hole frustrated by the same results? It’s a common story. We get stuck in a rut, exp...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – Ditch the Static Warm Up, Embrace the Dynamic!

07 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome back to The IMAGEN Golf Podcast, I'm your host, Daniel Guest, and today, we're tackling a massive variable that far too many amateur golfers c...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – Get Some Putting Tech Into Your Game!

02 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel Guest: Welcome back to The IMAGEN Golf Podcast, where we don't just talk about golf; we guarantee improvement. I'm your host, Daniel Guest—To...

Why You Need To Practice On A Golf Simulator!

27 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stop guessing and start quantifying!Welcome back to the Imagen Golf Podcast, where guest host Daniel delivers a deep dive into the modern practice rev...

How Far Should You Hit Each Iron? Complete Iron Distances For Every Handicap

19 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

How far should you hit your irons? The answer depends more on your handicap than the number on the club. Using performance data from Shot Scope for ma...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – Help My Driver Isn't Working Today!

17 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Help! My Driver Isn't Working Today!Welcome back to the tee box! I'm your host, Daniel Guest, and today we're tackling a problem every golfer knows: t...

7 Things You Should NOT Do At The Driving Range (#2 Is a Real No Brainer))

13 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel discusses an all to common practice on the driving range. Listen to what not to do and more importantly Daniel lays out "The Blueprint for Bet...

Daniel's Takeaways From 4 Days At The Ryder Cup

30 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome back to the Imagen Golf Podcast I'm your host, Daniel Guest, Top 100 Golf Coach, and I've just returned from four unforgettable days at the Ry...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – Stop The Bumping & Running Please

12 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome back to the Imagen Golf podcast, everyone. Daniel Guest here, and today, we're talking about a shot that I see way too often from amateur golf...

Daniel Sits Down w/ The Founders of WeGo Golf

05 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel connects with Anthony Franklin one of the co-founders of WeGo Golf. WeGo Golf is the ultimate mobile golf experience that brings the excitement...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – Stop The Early Extension - It's Killing Your Game!

27 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Alright, golf fanatics and swing destroyers, welcome back to the podcast that's revolutionizing your game, one shank at a time! I'm your host, Daniel ...

Stop The Different Swings For Different Clubs BullSh@t!

24 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Many Styles, One Golf Swing: Why Physics Dictates Consistency Across the BagThe casual observer, watching the balletic arc of a Bryson DeChambeau driv...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Get Your Weight Right From The Start

07 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel talks about the importance of your weight distribution at the address position and how it has a material effect throughout your swing.Why It Wo...

How The Top Club Manufacturers, TaylorMade, Callaway, & Ping Are Hurting Your Game

06 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Listen to Daniel discuss how the top golf club manufacturers are actually hurting not helping your game. Find out why he call them "the corrupt golf ...

The Top Product At The PGA Golf Show "CaddieVision" Glasses

30 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel talks with Jason Schneider the founder of CaddieVision Augmented Reality glasses that give you real-time feedback while you play. Made by golf...

Tiger's Golf League - TGL - Review of Week 1

10 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel reviews the inaugural week of the TGL, the Tomorrow's Golf League financed by Rory and Tiger. He'll share his thoughts, what other have voiced...

The LPGA Gets Tough On Gender Policy - Well Sort Of????

04 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel discusses the LPGA's recent policy on gender, the LPGA says its players must be female at birth or transition before puberty, Whaaaaat? He'll ...

The Golf Swing Analysis Group Craze - Is it good for you, NOPE!

29 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

There are thousands of Golf Swing Analysis Groups on FaceBook, Reddit, YouTube and countless other media channels. Some are private where you need to...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Fix Your Contact Issues Today!

22 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Improve Your Golf Contact in 3 MinutesStruggling with poor contact? It often comes down to weight distribution. Many golfers keep their weight back as...

Why You Can't Get Better With YouTube/Social Media Golf Videos

20 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Sometimes well intended projects have ill effects. I'd put Youtube Golf Videos into this category.I honestly believe that people go onto YouTube with ...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Does Getting Fit For Clubs Really Matter, Um HELL YEAH!

15 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

There isn't a week that goes by where I don't get this question and my answer is always the same, hell yes it does.I like the term “optimized” rat...

Grip It and Rip It: Why You Should (Almost) Always Hit Driver

28 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Golf is a game of strategy, and nowhere is that more evident than on the tee box. While conventional wisdom might suggest playing it safe with irons o...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – How To Sink More Putts Immediately!

25 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode, we'll delve into the concept of Zen putting, a practice that emphasizes the mental aspects of the game to achieve greater focus, calm...

How Your Brain Learns Golf

22 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Golf, a game of intricate movements and precise timing, might seem like a simple act of hitting a ball. But beneath the surface lies a complex interpl...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – For God's Sake Tee Up Your Driver Correctly!

27 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Tee It Up Right: The Importance of Proper Driver SetupIn the world of golf, where every inch counts, even the seemingly simple act of teeing up your d...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – The Foundation of Your Swing: The Importance of a Good Golf Grip

20 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In the intricate world of golf, where precision and power intertwine, a player's grip on the club is far more than a simple act of holding. It is the ...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – 3 ways you’re using your feet wrong (and what to do instead)

13 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

There are tons of elements that go into the golf swing, but one that often gets overlooked by amateur players is feet position.There’s no one-size-...

Elevate Your Game: Why On-Course Playing Lessons Are a Game-Changer

04 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel discusses that while traditional golf lessons on the driving range or practice green can undoubtedly improve your swing mechanics and technique...

Friday F-O-R-E Get A Better Mental Game Today

01 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In today's Friday F-O-R-E we'll discuss the importance of a positive mental game when you play. We'll cover the three words that you should never say ...

Ultimate Long Drive Champion Jacob Molnar Talks How To Hit Bombs!

30 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel sits down with long drive professional Jacob Molnar a rising star in the sport. They discuss his story, his most recent win at the Ultimate Lo...

Why You Need To Get Fit For Your Putter!!!!

06 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Look by getting a proper putter fitting, you can improve the consistency of your short game and score better, period. That's the main reason to get a ...

Friday F-O-R-E - Unlock the Powerhouse: The Turn That Transforms Your Drives

26 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In today's Friday F-O-R-E we'll discuss the importance of a bigger turn in your driver swing. We'll kick things off by explaining why the turn is oft...

Friday F-O-R-E Visualization: The Secret Weapon of Golfers

22 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Visualization: The Secret Weapon of GolfersIn the realm of golf, where precision and mental fortitude reign supreme, visualization emerges as a potent...

Can Bryson DeChambeau Save the PGA?

18 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Bryson DeChambeau's recent triumph at the U.S. Open has reignited discussions about the state of professional golf and the ongoing rivalry between the...

How To Have More Birdie Looks

18 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Stop Worrying About All The Things You Do WrongFriday F-O-R-E is designed to give you advice, tips and strategies to help you ...

The PGA Tour Better Get It's Sh$t Together

14 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

It's been almost a year since the PGA announced it was "merging" with LIV Golf. Eleven months later it seems we're no closer to tha...

Friday F-O-R-E - Stop Using 1 Club For Your Short Game

30 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Friday F-O-R-E is designed to give you advice, tips and strategies to help you play better golf, in 4 Minutes or less! This week Daniel discusses the ...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – How To Get Your Mental Golf Game In Order

19 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Friday F-O-R-E is designed to give you advice, tips and strategies to help you play better golf, in 4 Minutes or less! This week Daniel discusses the ...

Rory McIlroy Is Going To LIV

17 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel discusses golfing superstar Rory McIlroy having been linked with a bombshell $850m  deal to join LIV Golf in what would be the bigges...

Rory McIlroy Is Going To LIV

17 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel discusses golfing superstar Rory McIlroy having been linked with a bombshell $850m  deal to join LIV Golf in what would be the bigges...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday – Get Your Alignment Right So You Can Score Better

06 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Friday F-O-R-E is designed to give you advice, tips and strategies to help you play better golf, in 4 Minutes or less! This week Daniel discusses the ...

How Many Golf Lessons Do I Need

02 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel answers what may be the #1 question golfers ask him on a daily basis, "How many lessons do I need".  He discusses how to set the proper ex...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Stop Gripping The Club So Tight & Wrong

25 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Friday F-O-R-E is designed to give you advice, tips and strategies to help you play better golf, in 4 Minutes or less! This week Daniel discusses the ...

The #1 Thing Thing That Matters In Your Swing-You May Be Surprised

20 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel walks you through the #1 most important thing in your golf swing, your swing plane.  If your swing plane isn't correct, you can work on ev...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Stop Worrying About All The Things You Do Wrong

15 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Friday F-O-R-E is designed to give you advice, tips and strategies to help you play better golf, in 4 Minutes or less! This week Daniel discusses the ...

F-O-R-E Minute Friday - Better, Faster, Tempo Equals A Better Swing

11 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Friday F-O-R-E is designed to give you advice, tips and strategies to help you play better golf, in 4 Minutes or less! This week Daniel discusses the ...

The Top Golf Sayings That We Need To Stop Saying, Immediately!

19 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel covers the top age old golf sayings that we all hear on the course every time we play, no matter where we play, we even say many of them. If yo...

Friday F-O-R-E Golf Is Hard Enough - Stop The Negative Self Talk

18 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Friday F-O-R-E is designed to give you advice, tips and strategies to help you play better golf, in 4 Minutes or less! This week Daniel discusses Nega...

Stop The Craziness - Fix Your Big Miss First!

10 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Today's episode is around the most important thing each and every golfer needs to work on, no matter what level, beginners to profrssionsals.  Fi...

The Worst Golf Advise, Not Only in 2023 But Ever!

26 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel reviews some of the worst golf advice he's heard again in 2023 and why that advice is hurting your game.  Some of these border on criminal...

Friday F-O-R-E Why You Need To Choke Down On Your Clubs

22 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Friday F-O-R-E is designed to give you advice, tips and strategies to help you play better golf, in 4 Minutes or less! This week Daniel discusses the ...

How To Guarantee You Get Better In 2024

19 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel share's his thoughts and proven, time tested philophy on what you need to do to get better this year.  Simply folow theese 8 steps and he ...

Friday F-O-R-E Play The Right Ball To Score Better

10 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Friday F-O-R-E is designed to give you advice, tips and strategies to help you play better golf, in 4 Minutes or less! This week Daniel discusses the ...

John Rahm Joining LIV Golf - It's Official!

07 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Well it's going to happen and according to multiple sources it is a done deal... but from the initial rumours the deal has changed! Multiple sources c...

Can Tiger Win Again - Well Depends On Who You Ask!

04 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel discusses the recnt comeback to competition for Tiger Woods.  He reviews Tiger's performance in the tournament, gives his insight on Tiger...

Meet the "Elon Musk of Wedges" Terry Koehler From Edison Wedges

19 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel sits down with one of the most influencial wedge designers of all time Terry Koehler from Edison Golf.  Listen and learn from Terry's over...

Friday F-O-R-E Change Your Putting Grip To Sink More Putts

17 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In today's Friday F-O-R-E Daniel goes over why you need to assess your current putting grip and most likely need to change it to be more consistent on...

Friday F-O-R-E - Unplug For Better Golf

10 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Friday's F-O-R-E is a weekly segment that's about sharing a thought, technique or strategy that can immefiately help you perform better on the golf co...

7 Ways To Make Your Practice Sessions Way Better

05 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel, like most of you out there, has a lot going on in his life, which means limited time to practice his golf game.  With that in mind he ans...

Shifting Your Golf Mindset To Play Better Golf

30 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel sits down with the founder & CEO of MetaBrain Golf, Alexandrea Day.  Alexandrea, a behavioral clinician, is an accompished author, inv...

My Time Spent w/ Hale of Famer & Tiger's Coach Hank Haney

23 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel recounts his latest time spent with Tiger's most famous coach, Hank Haney.  Hank coached Tiger from 2004-2010 during that time Tiger was a...

The Top 10 Fundamentals Needed For A Great Golf Swing

16 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Look I've given over 35K now and I can assure that while there are an infinite amount of ways to swing a golf club there is only one most efficient wa...

One of the Best Training Aids I've Ever Used - Perfect Hands Golf

11 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Look I rarely, I mean rarely do I endorse a training aid, why, because most of them do not work and even fewer have long lasting benefits.  I'm j...

Have The Right Expectation & You'll Play Better

25 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Look if you have the wrong expectations in anything in life you're going to be let down.  Nothing is truer than that in the game of golf.  H...

Get The Right Wedges For Your Swing & Game!

05 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

While we see alot questions around all golf clubs,wedges are definitely the most misunderstood clubs in the bag and lead to more confusion than necess...

The Ryder Cup Picks Controversy - Stop the Madness!!!!

31 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel discusses his take on the Zach Johnson's recent Ryder Cup team selections.  He'll discuss the criteria for the selections, who was picked,...

Do Clean Golf Clubs Make a Difference....

30 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Does it really help your shots and your game if you clean your clubs after each round?  How about after each shot?  Daniel tests just that a...

My Top 10 Golf Instruction and Mental Game Golf Books of All Time

26 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel shares his Top 10 Golf Books of all time.  Do you ever feel like your game is on the brink of a BIG breakthrough, yet through self-sabotag...

What Exactly It Takes To Break 100, 90, 80, 70 & Below

09 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel exlores and goes into detail on how to break the top three goals in golf, scoring below 100, then 90, then 80 and then to PAR and even lower.&n...

Top 10 Ways NOT To Play Your Best Golf!!!

19 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel reviews his Top 10 Ways NOT to play your best golf.  We're always talking about ways to swing better, play better and just be better.&nbsp...

PGA Tour & LIV Golf Merge...Whaaaatttt?

06 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Daniel discusses the shocking and ground breaking news of the PGA Tour & LIV Golf merging. Why it had to happen and what does it mean for mens go...