The In-Between
Episodes
Faith, Fear & Your Nervous System with Jo Hargreaves (Faith Filled Therapist)
10 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
👉 Get my guide to clarify your next step: https://itstheinbetween.com/In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Jo Hargreaves — psyc...
Beth & Jeff McCord: From Pastoral Crisis to Global Enneagram Coaching Movement
04 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Beth and Jeff McCord—bestselling authors and founders of Your Enneagram Coach—to unpack the...
The Magic of Knowing What You Want with Tracey Gee
14 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Tracey Gee—leadership coach, consultant, and author of The Magic of Knowing What You Want—t...
Kristi Gaultiere - Why Empathy Is the Missing Piece in Personal & Spiritual Growth
30 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Kristi Gaultiere—a licensed family therapist, co-founder of Soul Shepherding, and author of D...
Michael Shahan on IFS, the Enneagram and Understanding Your Inner World through Compassion
02 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Michael Shahan—a licensed therapist, Enneagram specialist, and IFS practitioner—who helps p...
Andrew Simila on Reinvention, Ownership, and the Power of Asking “What Would New Look Like?”
19 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Andrew Simila—executive coach, associate partner at Novus Global, and former pastor—who hel...
Samantha Mackay on Recovering Creativity, Unexpected Survival Strategies, and Using the Enneagram as a Path to Healing
05 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
What if your best traits—the ones that made you successful—were also the ones keeping you stuck? And what if your next chapter isn’t about reinv...
From Pastor to Pickleball Entrepreneur: Joe Freudenberg on Leaving Ministry, Being A Man, and Staying on Mission
22 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Joe Freudenberg—former youth pastor turned entrepreneur, coach, and founder of Pickleball Cou...
Jason DeMeo on Artistic Intelligence, Transition, and Creative Permission
01 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Jason DeMeo—artist, designer, keynote speaker, and co-founder of We Are Curio. Jason’s voca...
The Gift of Transition, Discernment, Identity, and Living What You Value with Kirk Romberg
17 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Kirk Romberg—former pastor, certified coach, and co-founder of Bridge and Rhino, where he equ...
Suzanne Stabile on Calling, Transition, Doing the Next Right Thing, and the Wisdom of the Enneagram
03 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Suzanne Stabile—Enneagram teacher, spiritual director, and author of The Road Back to You and...
Win At Home First: Cory Carlson on Priorities, Identity, and Choosing a Better Way
20 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Cory Carlson—executive coach, speaker, and author of Win at Home First and Rise and Go.Cory s...
Living with Mental Illness and Holding on to Faith: Chris Morris on Redefining Hope, Healing, and the Love of God
06 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Chris Morris—author, speaker, and advocate for mental health and chronic illness in faith com...
The Enneagram, Inner Work, & Flourishing: Hunter Mobley On Why Transitions Are Invitations To Grow
29 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, I sit down with Hunter Mobley—Enneagram teacher, lawyer, former pastor, and author of Letting Go, Finding You—to talk about what ...
Kevin Rains On Calling, Identity, Transition, And Building Legacy
22 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Evan sits down with Kevin Rains—entrepreneur, former pastor, and the author of Profits and Purpose. After scaling a multi-location ...
“They Just Told Me I Have to Quit” Bob Gardner on Leaving Ministry
15 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, I sit down with Bob Gardner—a former pastor who’s walked through deep disruption, vocational loss, and the exciting work of reima...
How to Uncover Your Hidden Genius and Find Work That Fits with Authors Betsy Wills and Alex Ellison
08 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Evan sits down with Betsy Wills and Alex Ellison—co-authors of Your Hidden Genius and advocates for a radically hopeful approach to...
Why God Isn’t Nervous About Your Doubts | Andy Squyres on Faith, Grief, and Hope
01 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Evan sits down with songwriter, poet, and thinker Andy Squyres—a voice that has been deeply resonant for those walking through doub...
How To Reinvent Yourself When Ministry and Life Take Unexpected Turns with Joe Lewin
25 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Joseph Lewin shares his journey of redefining calling, navigating unexpected career shifts, and finding purpose outside of tradi...
What The Future Church Looks Like with Kathryn Maack from Dwellings
18 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Kathryn Maack, founder of Dwellings and author of Whole: The Life-Changing Power of Relating to God with All of Yourself, shares...
Why He Went From Pastoring To Starting Over In Sales with Conner Smith
11 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Conner Smith shares his journey of transitioning from pastoral ministry to the marketplace, navigating the identity shifts, unce...
How To Know If It’s Time To Pivot: Recognizing When to Stay or Move On with Tyler Reagin.jpg
04 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Tyler Reagin shares his journey as a leader, emphasizing the importance of curiosity in decision-making and navigating change. H...
Davey Blackburn on Pain, Healing, and the Journey from Tragedy to Purpose
25 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Davy Blackburn shares his profound journey from being a pastor to navigating the depths of grief after the tragic loss of his wi...
Joe Boyd on How to Say Yes To Your Calling, Overcome Self-Doubt & Step Into Your Life's Adventure
18 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Joe Boyd shares his journey as a storyteller and the importance of embracing one's call to adventure. He discusses the common te...
Rachel Faulkner Brown on Vulnerability, Healing, and the Power of Sharing Your Story
11 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Rachel Faulkner Brown shares her profound journey through loss, faith, and healing. After losing two husbands at a young age, Ra...
Michael Whittle on Calling Being Overrated, Pulpit AI, and Embracing the Tensions of Ministry and Entrepreneurship
04 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Michael Whittle, founder of Pulpit AI, discusses his journey as a pastor and entrepreneur, the inspiration behind his company, a...
Mark Casto on Redefining Success, Wrestling with Identity, and Finding God’s Blueprint in Transitions
28 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Casto shares his transformative journey from being a pastor to an entrepreneur after facing significant challenges, including a church fire. He d...
Todd Linder on Why Personal Values Matter, How to Clarify Your Next Career Move, and Navigating the Complexities of Leaving Ministry
21 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Todd Linder, founder of LaunchPoint, shares his journey from ministry to the marketplace, offering practical insights on navigating career transitions...
Eric Hoke on Redefining Pastoral Identity, Discovering New Opportunities and Bivocational Ministry
14 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Eric Hoke shares his journey from traditional pastoral roles to embracing bivocational ministry, highlighting the challenges and opportunities that ar...
Collin Mayjack from Holy Shift on Navigating Transitions, Rebuilding Identity, and Finding a Way Forward When You Feel Stuck
07 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Colin Majak, host of the Holy Shift podcast, shares his journey from being a pastor to transitioning into product marketing, exploring themes of chang...
Tyler Zach on Letting Go, Becoming Present, and How the Enneagram Helps in Seasons of Transition
20 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, I sit down with Tyler Zach, an Enneagram coach, former pastor, and author of the highest-rated Enneagram devotional series on Amazon....
Jon Ngan on Redefining Success, Finding Clarity, and Trusting God in a Season of Transition
17 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Jon Ngan was on the path many pastors might dream of—serving in one of Malaysia’s most influential churches, growing ministries, leading teams, an...