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The Jefferson Fisher Podcast

Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

Tue, 03 Jun 2025

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Ever feel like you’re talking to a wall when dealing with someone who just won’t take accountability? You might be dealing with a narcissist—or at least someone showing strong narcissistic behaviors. In this episode, I break down exactly how to talk to those people without losing your cool, your confidence, or your sanity. Whether this person is your boss, your sibling, or your partner—you’ll walk away from this episode knowing exactly how to protect your peace when things get heated. This episode is sponsored by Cozy Earth. Upgrade Your Every Day. Get 40% off at cozyearth.com/jefferson or use code JEFFERSON at check out. Order my new book, The Next Conversation, or listen to the full audiobook today. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show!  Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter.  Join My School of Communication Watch my podcast on YouTube  Follow me on Instagram  Follow me on TikTokFollow me on LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How do you talk to a narcissist?

0.089 - 26.549 Jefferson Fisher

How do you talk to a narcissist? I know what you want to say. You don't. You don't, Jefferson. That's not reality. It sounds nice. It sounds really nice, but it's not reality. Why? Because more than likely, you're related to one. You're married to one. You work with one. Or you work for one.

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There are people who exhibit narcissistic behaviors everywhere, and there are those that we might deem a narcissist. How do you handle it? All that and more coming up. Welcome to the Jefferson Fisher Podcast, where I'm on a mission to make your next conversation the one that changes everything.

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46.419 - 60.809 Jefferson Fisher

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And if you like learning good stuff, if you are interested in being a better communicator, listening to this podcast, I promise you will make you a better communicator. And that's my promise to you. Thank you very much. This episode is brought to you by Cozy Earth. Cozy Earth has these bamboo sheets. And let me tell you, they are on my bed at this moment. And they're incredible.

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You know this. I'm a trial attorney. That means I talk to a lot of people, usually in some of the most intense situations you can think of. Cross-examination is one of those. I can't think of anything that is more adversarial in a controlled way where people do not want to... Answer me.

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They don't want to respond, but they're required to under oath because they've done something where somebody is now calling them to the mat. They are now being held accountable for whatever they've done or they've said. So they don't typically want to talk to me. It's my job to ask questions in a way that is going to get facts, apply law to it, and advocate for my client.

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One of those personalities that I see often are narcissists. And I say that as a general term of people who exhibit a strong pattern of narcissistic behavior. You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. These are people that if I were to say narcissist to you right now, you could close your eyes and think of one person. You go, this is a narcissist.

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