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Chapter 1: Who is Raekwon and what is his background?
And, you know, he came to block and he talked to some real dudes that was really had other shit planned in their life. You know, but hip hop was always like that backpack that we wore every day. But everybody had different plans. So he really literally came in and started to pick motherfuckers that he felt had potential. So it's like the mob. It's like, you know, Lucky Luciano, prime example.
You know, he knew that motherfuckers had potential, right? He knew dudes had potential in any way. He's from a different part. He's from a different part. He's from a different part. But yo, what we could do right here is we could make money. So put your fucking feelings down or whatever the case may be. and let's talk about some money.
And that right there, kind of like, yo, you start shaking hands across the table. Yo, I know you didn't really fuck with me like that, yo. I never had anything against you like that, though. But it was just something that he felt like at the end of the day, let me try this shit.
Well, Riz is a genius, and it's amazing that he was able to coordinate that because that's often the case, right, with other killers.
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When a dude's a bad motherfucker, they always assume that everybody else doesn't like them. They always assume that everybody else is the enemy or competition.
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Chapter 2: How did Wu-Tang Clan form?
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You have to do it. Sacrifice is everything. If you're a young kid and that's step one and now you're on the runway, okay, you got to take it. You got to take it. But it just should be more fair. Oh, I agree. It shouldn't lock people in for life. And I'm sure later on, things worked out. And, you know, now that you proved yourself. Once they become undeniable.
It's like I tell a motherfucker this. I'm like, yo, imagine you were a hustler, right? And you run into the Kinect. And the Kinect say, yo, you talking like you know how to move shit. I'ma give you 50 pounds of marijuana back then, you know what I mean? Now, you may feel like at the end of the day you can handle it, but a motherfucker tell you, Joe, I'm giving you these fucking 50 pounds.
I need my money back today, at this time. You can either take the 50 because you're so fucking confident or take one and say, yeah, I'd rather take my time. You know what I mean? I don't want to be in debt with you. What are you going to do? You got to take the 50. Oh, you. Oh, yeah.
He wants to fucking get his head fucking chopped up. You got to take the 50. I don't know. You got to know people and you got to bring everybody in and you got to share the money. You got to know people. You got to share the money. You got to know people. If you ain't competent in knowing what the fuck you need to know, I advise you don't take them.
You shouldn't be having that conversation if you don't know anybody. But if you know some people and you're generous, that's the thing. You got to make it worth these people's while. You got to say, listen, we're all going to get something out of this. And see, now look, that philosophy that you said is what we took on. Yes. We took that on.
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Chapter 3: What was the impact of hip-hop in the 90s?
Chapter 4: How does Raekwon view the music industry's challenges?
That's how I look at rap. It's like, yo, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, we'll take this little bit of money, but we're going to prove to y'all later on that we know what the fuck we doing.
And for young people listening to this, every chance you take where you fail, that's a lesson learned. That's a lesson, baby. And you just keep taking chances. That's right. Keep going. Pick yourself back up. Figure out where you fucked up and learn from that. Now you're better. That's right. Now you have more experience coming into this next thing. Just keep going. Just keep going, man.
Just keep going, especially as artists. It's just like so many artists, they don't hit until they do. That's right. And then when they do, it's like, oh, and then people want to go back in their past stuff. Like, oh, this guy had fucking three albums before this. Yeah.
Think about it. Think about all our favorite artists out there. You know, Eminem, you know? Eminem been trying to fucking get on, you know? Mm-hmm. You know... Rock him, Slick Rick. All these guys, they went through a lot to get on. You know what I mean? Biz Markie. Nobody wanted to fuck with Biz at first, but he finally figured the code out and was like, yo, this is what I'm going to do.
He started rocking shows in different communities, and next thing you know, people start hearing about him. You're like, oh, shit, yo, this guy is dope. But it's that sacrifice, man. I tell people all the time, got to sacrifice. Yeah, it's time put in. Time put in, energy, effort, determination. And you got to have some talent. Yeah, you got to have some talent. Talent is just...
God just gives you something or doesn't you know some people just got it you know some people it's also like artistic families like Nas you know he grew up in this like intellectual artistic family and that's why his rhymes are so good yeah his pops man his pops is a musician yeah like Rewind yeah that's like one of the greatest songs of any genre anybody's ever written it's a genius song so crazy I was listening to that shit yesterday genius song the bullet goes back in the gun
Yeah. Genius song. The whole song backwards. You fuck with lyrics hard. Oh, I love Nas, especially for lyrics. His lyrics are incredible. They were so good. They were so good. Dope. And unusual, like that. Deciding, I'm going to be the first guy to make a rap backwards. And make it work perfectly. You know? I mean, it's just...
Hey, did you ever listen to any of the shit where the Brand New Heavies got together with a bunch of rappers? The Brand New Heavies. I know the name, but I'm trying to think of the name. The Brand New Heavies are like a jazz band. They did a collaboration with Gangstar, Cool G Rap. Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. A bunch of guys. Some of my favorite shit of all time.
Yeah, they was more musical, though. Yeah. They was more musical, yeah. Have you ever heard Cool G Rap's Death Threat? Oh, my God. Jamie, play that. Play that. Find that. We've got to put on the headphones for this. This is in my, along with a bunch of Wu-Tang. This is in my Spotify playlist. This is Cool G rapping like, I want to say 92. Yeah, 92. Listen to this. Listen to this.
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