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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. So when we scheduled this, there was nothing happening. It was so peaceful. Every time we're here, something crazy is going on, man. Yeah, maybe we manifest it. To be honest, 2026 did start with a bang. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, a lot of things, you know, it's just nothing seems stable everywhere.
Everywhere in the world seems fucked right now. Like this is the like in all of my years, this seems the most unstable globally. Like I never worried that the UK was going to be like complete chaos, arresting 12,000 people for social media posts and abandoning trial by jury, all that shit. I never thought the Ukraine-Russia war would go on this long. Never thought.
Never thought they would just continue bombing Gaza and then what's happening now? They just sort of stop? And now they're talking about putting a resort there? What? Like, you hear that and you go, are you fucking serious? Right. Tim Dillon has a... I won't give the bit away. He has a fucking phenomenal bit about staying in that resort. Yeah, and you boys have been busy as well, Joe.
Yeah, and I was going to get to that. The embarrassing part. In the middle of Ramadan, you take out the leader of a Muslim country and... They're hangry already and you're fucking with them.
Chapter 2: How is global instability affecting the UK?
They're really, yeah. They can't even drink water. And then, you know, I was listening to Tim Dillon's podcast today. He's got a great podcast with Ryan Grimm and one other gentleman. But one of the things that they brought up was that some of these drone attacks, it doesn't even seem like they're from Iran.
Some of these drone attacks on Gulf states, like that one of them ā I don't want to speak out of turn because I'm not exactly sure which ones they're talking about. They're talking about one of them on ā Either it's a oil refinery. I think it is an oil refinery. It doesn't seem like it came from Iran. Where did it come from? That's a good question. One of their proxies?
That's a good question. The fear is a false flag. That's the fear. If you really wanted to get really scared of what we're dragged into, you're dragged into an ally that's not telling you the truth and is also doing some other stuff. Well, I'm not even saying that that's the case, but a lot of people are assuming that that's what it is.
But that's what happens when you have an absence of information. Right. And so the moment you have an absence of information, there's a vacuum. And nature abhors a vacuum. You need to have that vacuum filled. So that's where conspiracies naturally flourish. 100%. Because if people don't have information, then they're going to basically theorize. Right. And part of...
people theorizing is conspiracies are going to start flourishing. Well, I think they were basing it on where the drone came from. Let's see if we can find some information on that, Jamie. I will try. It was Jeremy Scahill was the other reporter on the video. I just find it amazing now how many people have a hard take on what's going on.
I'm like, we don't know a fucking thing about what's going on. The coin is in the air, right? And we do not know how it's going to ā but everyone's got a take. Everyone knows. We do not fucking ā I don't think anyone knows. I understand if you work at the White House or if you work in Russian propaganda or you work in Chinese propaganda or if you work in Iranian.
You've got to get your point of view across to try and persuade people. Right. But if you're actually trying to work out what's genuinely happening, I don't think anyone knows. This is a gamble of gigantic proportions, and nobody knows how it's going to end. It's just so unpredictable. And I can tell you a great story that is positive for the West, let's say, or for America.
I can tell you a terrible story, and they both sound very convincing, and no one knows which one of them is true. Yeah, that's a very good point. This is the hot take culture, right? Right. Everyone has a take and they want that take to be that expert take. So specific drone attack incidents that call potential false flags. Saudi Arabia, Saudi Aramco, rather, oil facility attack.
So Iranian officials deny striking the Saudi Aramco processing facility and instead suggest Israel may have carried out that attack as a false flag to inflame Gulf opinion and pull Saudi Arabia more directly into the war with Iran. So Ryan Grim explicitly says he thinks Iran's claims that Israel hit the Aramco facility need to be taken seriously and that it's very possible Israel did it.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of drone attacks on Gulf states?
Right. There's nothing to inflame. Like, the situation is already pretty fucking inflamed, right? And it's partly inflamed because, as I say, actually the Gulf states and Israel are pretty aligned on this particular thing. They're all at threat from the Iranian regime. So we had Eamon Dean and Richard Minnitzer on our show the other day. One of them is an al-Qaeda MI6 double agent.
Another one is a really reputable investigative journalist, Richard.
al-qaeda mi6 double yeah what balls and he has a great podcast now as well called conflicted what a great name yeah for a podcast for a guy who's a double agent yeah yeah what balls that guy must have yeah yeah yeah really cool guy but anyway i mean he was explaining that saudi arabia has a population that is way bigger than what they can sustain in terms of the water but they live in the desert
So they have these desalination plants which are extremely vulnerable. And Saudi Arabia, UAE, these other countries, they felt at huge risk from Iranian attacks for a long time. So they ā none of them like the Iranian regime that's spreading terrorism through its proxies. So in actual fact, dragging them into the war kind of like there's no sense for that.
I think there's a lot of people just ā they go to reaction now whenever anything happens is that it was Israel's fault. Like Venezuela, fuck all to do with Israel, but when it happened, everyone's like, oh, it's Israel. I think some people just go to that now as the automatic response, which comes back to what I was saying earlier about the hot take culture.
Something happened three minutes ago, and now everyone's got a fucking take on it. You don't know anything. None of us know anything. None of us know how this is going to go because this right now is a highly unpredictable situation. I don't think the White House knows how this is going to go. No, it's terrifying.
It's terrifying, and it's exactly the opposite of what we were told leading into this administration, that it's going to be America first, and no more unnecessary foreign wars. There's the other thing that ... Do you remember Desert Storm? Yeah. Yeah. Desert Storm, quick and easy, baby. Woo, we went in, kicked some ass, took some names. That's a wrap. Pulled out.
There was only one base that got hit, so the amount of deaths by American citizens was fairly minimal. Yeah. I think that's what got people so confident into entering Iran after 9-11, or excuse me, Iraq after 9-11. To go back, like we already fucked them up once. We're gonna go back and this is gonna be easy.
Well, it wasn't easy the second time and it was drawn out and it didn't make any sense, but people wanted some form of revenge, something for 9-11. And so somehow or another, they justified a war with a country that had zero to do with it. Like it didn't even make sense. That one took for, and then we also invaded Afghanistan at the same time. What did we do? What the fuck?
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Chapter 4: How does misinformation impact public perception?
Well, I mean, I guess they would say Venezuela, right? Like a regime adjustment. It's a completely different kind. Of course. This is a religious fanatical. It's a totally different kind of country. Also, it's a country that's been under threat for decades, right? So they've been preparing for this kind of thing. Yeah. And also with Venezuela, it wasn't a regime change.
Practically everybody who was in the old regime is still there. It's a regime adjustment. Exactly. Exactly. So Delcy Rodriguez was one of the senior leaders in Maduro's regime. They just took out Maduro and his wife. They put Delcy Rodriguez there. But the whole structure, the whole leadership, the whole party is still in place.
So they've just what they've done is they put Delcy at the top and they've said to her, look, if you fuck about, you're going to get what your boss got. So you're going to follow what we say. You're going to do what we say. You are going to open up the oil refineries. We're going to build it. We're going to you're going to start pumping oil out.
You're going to stop messing about with Hezbollah, which they had training camps in the island of Margarita, which is a little Caribbean island two and a half hours away from Miami. Training camps, you can't have that. You're not going to be fraternizing with the Cubans. And you're going to play ball. And essentially, Venezuela is now a colony of the United States. That's what it's now become.
That's wild. Well, there's also the Kurt Metzger angle, which is hilarious. Kurt Metzger cornered me one night at the mothership and he explained to me that this was all about the 2020 election and that Maduro somehow or another had something to do with rigging the 2020 election and he's going to say it as a part of his testimony. He's like, just wait, just wait. Mark my words.
He's convinced of this. He goes down the rabbit hole to the lava. Like he passes and he's like, this rabbit hole's been covered up. It goes deeper and he keeps going till he's at the fucking center of the earth. He's a funny guy though. Oh, he's hilarious. He's hilarious. He's mentally ill, but he's hilarious. He's one of the funniest people I know, like ever. Fantastic joke writer too.
I mean, he's just great all around. But Jesus Christ, like some of his nutty theories, they go so far. Oh, absolutely. I've been in bars with Kurt where he starts talking to me, and I'm like, Kurt, I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. Well, he changes conspiracies mid-sentence.
He starts bringing up some shit from the 70s, the church committee, and this and that, and MKUltra, and don't you know about Monarch? Like, what? Slow down. Like, not everybody knows what you're talking about. But I think this is, and I love Kurt, but this is kind of where you feel that the truth isn't enough. So there needs to be something else.
There needs to be something that goes deeper than that. And sometimes there is, don't get me wrong. Sometimes it does go deeper. But sometimes you're making connections where there are no connections. It's pretty simple with Venezuela, what was going on. They were fucking about, and they were doing it for a long time. And they were doing it in America's backyard.
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Chapter 5: What challenges do police officers face in today's society?
I bet you they felt bad doing it as well because it's not them that's making up these dumb ones. Oh, I'm sure. Nobody signs up to like arrest comedy writers in airports. I don't think that's why the police do it. But the rules have just got so ā Well, you see it in like the humiliation that a lot of these police officers face when they have to arrest someone for a Facebook post. Right.
Which you could see like they're not happy. And when people are protesting and yelling, are you fucking serious? And they're like, I'm just doing my job. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And that's a large part of the problem.
We get former police officers on the show, and we've got a lot of cops and former cops who watch the show, and they talk to us about the state that the British police force is in, and it's demoralization. Yeah, the rank and file don't want any of this shit.
Chapter 6: How has public perception of police changed since the George Floyd protests?
Same in America, a lot of especially major blue cities where just a few years ago they were running with that defund the police bullshit. And then things obviously went sideways and most of them sort of course corrected for the most part, except in narrative. You know, it's not like public massive support for the police officers because they keep society together.
Like in Austin, the cops responded in a minute, one minute. That guy started gunning people down at that bar. The cops were there and killed him in a minute. It's incredible. Incredible. And they should be applauded for that. I mean, that's amazing.
I mean, that, but, you know, even that, like in this city, there hasn't been this big public support of those officers, this big celebration of those officers. this big acknowledgement of the importance of them and how they were willing to put their life on the line and react so quickly and so effectively. They're heroes. That's what they are. Yeah, they're real heroes.
Chapter 7: What role does media play in shaping narratives around police incidents?
They're heroes. And they're heroes that have been demoralized by the last six years of horseshit ever since the George Floyd protests, you know? Well, it was happening before. I mean, if you go back to Michael Brown, right? Michael Brown, what we were told in the media happened is not what happened. Which one was Michael Brown? Michael Brown was hands up, don't shoot. Right.
He didn't have his hands up. Right. And he didn't say don't shoot. Right. He assaulted the police officer. Right. Right. But the media concocted the story. And I don't think this is what we came back to, like what's happening in new media where people are putting out things. that are really damaging to the fabric of our conversations and how we talk about things.
Like you say, I mean, there are bad Apple police officers, of course there are, but the majority of them,
they are people who are signing up to risk their life on a daily basis to protect other people in their community and these people all have ptsd because all they see is the worst of humanity day in day out every single day they get in the car and they go and eat for the rest of the day and then they go home and they worry about not coming home right and then someone tries to run them over with the car like yeah they're gonna shoot yeah you know
And the thing is that's how society falls apart when you no longer honor and celebrate the people who are putting themselves on the line. Well, not just that. In the case of the lady running over ā she wasn't running him over. I think she was trying to turn her car away from him. But that guy had been dragged by a car just a few weeks earlier. Right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
And then on top of that, you have people that are being paid to protest, right? So it's organized.
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Chapter 8: How do societal pressures influence the behavior of police and protesters?
And I'm not saying that lady was, but many people are. And then you've got all these people that that becomes the focus of their life. It becomes a cause that's worthy. You live this mundane, boring life of desperation. And then all of a sudden something comes along that gives you hope and meaning. And like, this is my identity. My identity is I'm fighting fascism and I'm out there in the street.
You know, I was on the plane to the U.S., I think it was last year, and you know the movie Bridesmaids came up? Yes. So, really funny movie, it's 2013, I was like, ah, I want something like, let's watch this comedy. The romantic interest in Bridesmaids, the main guy, you know what his job is? He's a cop.
Can you imagine a movie being made now, like a romantic comedy, where the main guy is a cop and he's a good guy? Right. You just wouldn't see it. Right. You just wouldn't see it because cops are oppressors. He's a nice agent now. Yeah, man. Do you know Yuri Bezmenov talked about this? Yes. He talked about this.
He talked about the fact that when you see in the culture, you know, the military, the cops, the firefighters, all of these people, they're bad. And the criminal is the one that's to be understood and to be, you know, that's how you flip society. Yeah. And that's what we've got. Yeah. That's what we've got. Yeah.
The Besmanoff speech from 1984, which is, by the way, such an appropriate date for him to make that. But it's it's so eerie how all of that has actually come to pass because back then nobody took him seriously at all. Right. Right. And it didn't it wasn't until like the 2020s that people started reviewing that. And then once it got on YouTube, then people were like, oh.
This fucking guy nailed it. I think it's YouTube and also most people in my experience want to pretend that everything is fine most of the time. So if you come out in 2018 as we did and say this woke shit is getting out of hand and it's going in a bad direction and it's going to cause a lot of problems, people make you the problem. They say you're wrong to talk about this.
If you talk about grooming gangs, you're bad and evil and whatever. If you talk about free speech, And people being arrested for tweets and all of this. People make you the bad guy. And it's only later. Like I remember, I can't even remember who said it, but like I had this. Oh, no, I remember who said it. One time I was on TV debating with this woman about this stuff.
And I was saying cancel culture is bad. And she was saying it's all bullshit, blah, blah, blah. I met her a few years later and she was like, yeah, I realized cancel culture is bad. And I went, how did you realize? And she went, when my friends started getting canceled. Right. Most people want to pretend most of the time everything is fine. Yeah.
But when they start to see the reality of things and it starts to affect them. Right. That's when they go, oh, maybe this Bezmenov guy had a point. Yeah. I had an argument with a seemingly intelligent person who's a friend of mine when the NSA, when this whole mass spying thing was the Edward Snowden stuff was released. And he was like, like, you can look at my shit. I'm not doing anything wrong.
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