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Chapter 1: What interesting story does Taylor Sheridan share about his belt buckle?
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What's up, buddy? That's a hell of a fucking belt buckle. What is that? What is that? What's going on there? So this one is for a horse I have called Maverick Buzz the Tower that won reserve at the Futurity. And they give you a belt buckle if you win? A belt buckle and money. That's a dope belt buckle. Expensive belt buckle.
So guys like you that understand horses, if you saw someone with one of those, you would know exactly what that is right away. Oh, yeah. And the year. Depending on the year, I'm going to know the horse. It's like you and fighters. I guess. I guess it's probably similar. Oh, that guy won the thing in 2012. He fought so-and-so in this. Same with me and horses.
It's always so interesting to me how there's these different sort of categories of interests that people have that, you know, one person might not know anything. I don't know anything about horses. But you're like fucking balls deep. You know everything about horses. It's crazy. Yeah. It's such an interesting pool of knowledge, the people that are really into horses. And they start explaining.
Oh, this is not as simple as, oh, that's a horse, and that's a horse too. There's genetic lines, and there's certain tendencies that certain horses will actually pass on to their offspring. Oh, yeah. That's crazy stuff. There's a stallion, and I really like him. I've got a number of horses by this day, and his name's Spook's Got a Wiz.
And they're just incredibly balanced, real feely, very, very quick-footed, big stoppers. But they see dead people. They see ghosts. So like once every three months, for no reason, this thing's going to fucking check out. And I mean check out. Just decide it's not safe here. We're going back to the barn. You can come with me or I'm going to buck your ass off or I'm going to flip over.
No, he just loses his mind.
Whoa.
And you never know when it's going to happen. And his children have this as well?
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Chapter 2: How do horses' characteristics influence their behavior?
Now, if they start stomping their feet, I was going to show this one horse of mine. And I'm about to run in the pen. And all these guys are cheering for this Italian rider. And they're all beating on the side of the arena. Oh. And my horse checked the fuck out. He checked the fuck out.
It's like a whole herd of elephants chasing him. Oh, yeah.
Wow, I could imagine how weird that is for the horse. Yeah, like it's being told to do something But it's instincts are like no, yeah, we gotta get the fuck out of here. I can't hear anything That's nuts. Yeah, the hearing thing.
There's a Famous pool player his name is Shane van boning He's like one of the greatest pool players of all time if not the greatest and he's deaf and he has hearing aids and when he plays He shuts him off. He just goes And goes into this world. The zone. Just balls and geometry. And just doesn't miss. Just is a horrifying person to play. Really?
Because of the fact that he's got that extra sense shut off. Like the hearing, he can shut it off. It's not just that. I mean, he's also obsessive. He practices 10 hours a day. I mean, he's an all-time wizard. Like he's won the U.S. Open, which is the hardest tournament to win in all of pool.
He's won it five times, which is just not, there's only one other guy in history, Earl Strickland, that's won it five times. Everybody plays pool, like everybody, a little. Yeah. But then the levels to the game, like you start getting a professional pool player. Yeah. And they're playing a totally different game.
It's a totally different, just watching it, you realize like, oh my God, what am I doing? I'm hitting the ball way too hard. I don't know what I'm doing. My angles are all fucked up. Like this guy's playing that with English. I would have just hit it straight. And they're doing a spin, a backspin.
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Chapter 3: What unusual experiences do horses have that affect their training?
It hits over here in the ball. It's the control of the ball. It's just like they're a part of the stick is a part of their body. The stick and the ball, they're all connected in space and time, and they know where that ball's going within millimeters. It's nuts to watch. Some of these guys, they'll hit a ball, and it'll travel. It's a nine-foot table.
It'll travel all the fuck away around the table. It's like a 12-foot distance, and it'll go in a two-inch spot. And you just go, fuck me.
Yeah.
It's great. And then if you do that and you're deaf too, like you don't even hear the cheers. You're just still in the zone. It's just hyper-focused. Yeah, just hyper-focused. Autism probably helps too if you have that. Yeah. A little. Oh, yeah. Just a touch of autism. I got a little, I think.
I think anybody's good at anything.
Anybody's good at anything is either ADHD or autistic. Yeah. They tried to give me medicine for the ADHD. Did they? Yeah. I'm like, fuck no. How old were you when they tried to give it to you? Oh, well, they did give it to me when I was a kid. Really? Yeah. What'd they give you? And then you're, who knows? But whatever, you're lobotomized, right? Fuck.
And so I stopped taking it just because I was, you know, and so my parents were like, fuck it, just let him run around. My neighbor's kid, they gave it to him when I lived in California. It was such a bummer. He was this wild little kid, and they gave it to him, and all of a sudden he was flat. Yep. And I was like, oh. Yeah. The lady was like, oh, he's on medication now because he's hyperactive.
I'm like, oh, my God. Not my kid, not my place. I'm not saying nothing. I just go to work. You know, I was single back then, and I was like 28 or 29, and I was just so confused. how you could do that, and then I kept thinking, if somebody did that to me when I was a kid, for sure I would have been on drugs. If my parents knew about those options, they could shut me the fuck up.
If I had the wrong parents, my parents wouldn't have done it, but if I had the wrong parents, 100% I had all the traits that would have allowed me to get on Ritalin or whatever they give you. It's a fucking superpower, if you understand it. Exactly. It's a superpower. Yeah, if you could find something you love. People say, how in the world can you write a script that you write all these things?
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Chapter 4: How does Taylor Sheridan view the challenges of modern education?
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And then here's my new, like, look, I'm a writer, right? So words matter to me. And when we misuse them in our society, it just bothers me, right? So all these things that we're calling milk, like almond milk. And I'm just determined to call it almond juice because that's what it fucking is. It's not even almond juice. It's not like we're extracting. It's almond tea almost.
We're taking almonds, pulverizing them and brining them in water. essentially leeching out the flavor of the almond and then adding a bunch of shit to it and sugar and whatnot. Adding a lot of sugar. My friend Duncan was like, dude, almond milk is good for you. I go, you ever look at how much sugar is in there? And we were on the phone and he goes, holy shit.
I go, yeah, man, that's why it tastes good. But my doctor told me I had oxalates in my diet, in my blood test. He said, your oxalates are kind of high. He goes, are you eating almonds? And I said, yeah, I eat almonds all the time. He's like, yeah, cut back. He goes, that's where it's from. Really? Yeah. Find out how much oxalates are in almonds. I just listen to them.
And also, it's a lot of like... A lot of that gluten-free flour stuff, if you buy a lot of that stuff, it's like almond flour a lot of the times. Right. Almonds are a high oxalate food. Eating them can raise oxalate levels that circulate, get filtered by the kidneys, and appear in urine, which may increase kidney stone risk in susceptible people.
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Chapter 5: What are the impacts of back injuries on health?
Yeah, I'll look into that for sure. But any neck injury or back injury, there's such a motherfucker. Anytime your back goes out, you're like...
Everything you do is like, ah.
It's so hard to do anything. It's like you realize how nice it is to be healthy whenever you get hurt. Yeah. No, back pain. That's what killed my stepfather. Back pain? Yeah. Did he just get on pills? Yeah. Yeah. I have a friend in the family that did that.
Chapter 6: How do opioid prescriptions affect addiction?
Yeah, he was in – I remember one time we were fishing up in Wyoming and he just – he was like, I can't do it. Back hurts too bad. And he went in and had a surgery and made it worse, which is – Which is a real, real risk when you start messing around with the spine, right? And so, yeah, and then it was, you know, those are serious pain. Now we're talking oxy.
Yeah, now you're in just agony all day long. Now you're on a clock. Yeah, and you can only do that shit for so long. Yeah, now you're on a clock. Oxys are fucking terrifying. They're so terrifying. So terrifying how readily they were handing them out, too, forever. Yeah. Do you ever see Painkiller, the Peter Berg thing that he did for Netflix?
Chapter 7: What is the significance of Ibogaine in addiction treatment?
No, I didn't. Fucking great, man. Matthew Broderick plays such a great creep. He played the Sackler brother. Oh, really? Yeah, the head of the family that started this whole opiate problem that we have in this country. It's fucking terrifying because it's all real. And those fucking people never even went to jail. Who knows how many people are dead because of them?
Yeah. Yeah.
They generated fucking billions and billions of dollars, killed a bunch of people, ruined countless lives. How many lives of people that were connected? Your dad gets hooked on that shit. It ruins your relationship with your family. You wind up being all fucked up because you grew up with a dad who was strung out on pills. No, generation. Yeah. Generational damage. Oh, God, yeah.
And these guys put their feet up. Yeah. They go to a fucking nice country club and have the lobster. Yeah. Cock suckers. There's so many of them in this world. That's genuinely evil. Yes. There's real demons. That's a real demon. People want to think demons live in hell and that's kind of may or may not be real. No, they're on earth. There's demons. They're right here. Yeah. And they justify it.
They figure out a way to justify it. And they're around a bunch of other people who justify it too. And they can just immediately dismiss any pain or suffering because they got a huge amount of profit from it. Yeah. Yep, those are the fuckers. Those are the fuckers. Yeah, they're out there. And it doesn't take many of them to create real carnage. I mean, think about that.
Think about the opiate issue in this. It was the gateway to fentanyl, right? If you think about it. Yeah, it was the gateway to fentanyl. And it was also, it's like they were doing those pain management centers down in Florida where they just, all they prescribed was pills. So you would go and like, I'm in pain. They're like, oh, Taylor, we've got the solution. It's right next door.
And you go right next door to their pharmacy and all their pharmacy has, like they don't have Bengay over there. They don't have toothbrushes. Oxy. Yeah, they've got Oxy. Here you go, buddy. This is the solution. Yeah.
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Chapter 8: How does Taylor Sheridan's new book address survival in prison?
Fucked. Yep. Yep. That's the real drug trade. Yeah, right? Yeah. I mean, the cartel is basically getting the scraps. They're making trillions of dollars off scraps. Well, think about this. Did you even know what fentanyl was 15 years ago? I never heard of it. No.
I don't even remember when we first heard about it, but when we first heard about it on a podcast, we were talking about it, and we found the amount that's lethal, and they showed it next to a penny. And you're like, what? That can kill you? And people are taking that, and they're mixing that in cocaine? Holy fuck. And they are bent over zombies on the side of the road. Yeah.
Philadelphia's bad, too. There's a bunch of cities that are just real bad with it, and it doesn't have to be that way. And what's interesting is this Ibogaine initiative that Rick Perry and Brian Hubbard are pushing in Texas and that I went to the White House to get Trump to be involved in.
And they're trying to make this so that it's you have a right to use or I think they call it right to use or right to try for people that are addicted. And they're trying to make it more readily available and accessible to veterans. That's the thing that can help all these people. What is it now? Ibogaine. Do you don't know what that is? No. Ibogaine is a it comes from the aboga tree in Africa.
And it is this very potent psychedelic that has no recreational use at all. It's not fun. Nobody likes it. It's not like a trip. You see zombies and fucking hang out with the aliens. You go into this very dark experience for like 24 hours where it like replays your life to you in a very uncomfortable way. And also somehow or another rewires addiction in your brain.
And for a large percentage of people, just one dose is good enough to get them off of everything, whatever they're on, whether it's alcohol, gambling, coke, whatever the fuck it is. But for two doses, when they do it twice, it's significantly better. And it doesn't just do that. Rick Perry, who was the Republican former governor of Texas, was staunchly anti-drugs.
He said this is his main focus in life now is to promote this. This is his goal in life because he did it. And he had an incredible reaction to it. And he knows so many veterans who have done it. It's incredible for PTSD. Somehow or another, it has neuro regenerative properties where he went there and they said he went to his doctor before. And, you know, doctor did a whole scan of his body.
And he said, look, you've got a certain amount of age related brain atrophy. It's like it's fine. But, you know, it's normal that you're 73 years old or 74 years old. So, he goes and does the Ibogaine, sees his doctor a short time afterwards, and the doctor says, it's 25% less atrophy than when you got the last scan. And he explains to him the whole Ibogaine thing.
He goes back six months later, it's all gone. He has no brain atrophy anymore, which is bananas. So, it's regenerating brain tissue. It's making his brain work better. And it's just – Pharmaceutical companies aren't going to let that shit out. Well, they didn't like it. They didn't like that I bypassed them and went straight to Trump and told them about that. But Trump was very open to it.
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