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498. Is Brazil on Path to Become Cuba? | Eduardo Bolsonaro

14 Nov 2024

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with politician and son of the previous president of Brazil, Eduardo Bolsonaro. They discuss his father’s story, near-death experience, election win, and why he cannot run in 2026. They also discuss the wave of censorship across South America and the West, Elon Musk’s fight with the Brazilian Supreme Court, and the true magnitude of independent media which has tyrants scared across the globe.   Eduardo Bolsonaro is a Brazilian politician, lawyer, and federal police officer. He is the third child of Jair Bolsonaro, the 38th president of Brazil. Since March 2022 he has been affiliated with the Liberal Party. Bolsonaro is also the most voted lawmaker in Brazil’s history with 1.8 million votes, securing his second term as Federal Deputy in the Chamber of Deputies. In this, he chairs the International Affairs and National Defense Committee. Bolsonaro is also one of many signatories (including Javier Milei and Giorgia Meloni) of the Madrid Charter, which reaffirms conservative allyship and draws a hard line between liberals and radical leftists.   This episode was filmed on November 1st, 2024     | Links |   For Eduardo Bolsonaro:   On X https://x.com/BolsonaroSP?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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2.353 - 2.693 Eduardo Bolsonaro

Thank you.

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15.376 - 45.646 Jordan Peterson

So Brazil has been on people's minds more in the United States and perhaps in the world as of late, not least because Elon Musk has had a very public dispute with, what would you say, a renowned member of the Brazilian Supreme Court. And that has a multitude of implications for the battle between free speech and government regulation and ideological control across the world.

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45.686 - 67.659 Jordan Peterson

Now, I had the opportunity today to speak with Mr. Eduardo Bolsonaro, who's a congressman in Brazil and who's also the son of Jairo Bolsonaro, who was the president of Brazil, who's ran an unorthodox campaign, mostly on social media, and became president for a four-year term. And so...

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68.419 - 88.831 Jordan Peterson

We had a chance today to talk about the culture war in Brazil, which is very similar to the culture war that's running rampant in the United States and in Canada and in Europe and in New Zealand and Australia, all across the Western world and all across the world. as a whole to a lesser degree, although that will mount.

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89.391 - 104.673 Jordan Peterson

And we delved into, well, the political structure of Brazil, the political landscape there and how it's shifting as a consequence of the social media revolution. We spoke a fair bit about the background to the dispute that Musk is having with the Brazilian Supreme Court.

105.213 - 113.695 Jordan Peterson

And we outlined the implications of that dispute for the battle between free speech and government regulation and ideology, as I said, across the world.

114.375 - 133.59 Jordan Peterson

It's been my experience that getting to know the political landscape on the various countries that I visited and have been able to familiarize myself with to some degree helps me deepen my understanding of what's relevant and important more locally, say in the United States, in Canada.

134.071 - 159.542 Jordan Peterson

And I think the discussion that I had today with Mr. Bolsonaro with regard to Brazil has exactly the same consequence. There's something deep at work in the world at the moment, and you can see it reflected everywhere. And the more places you analyze it, the more positions you can analyze it from, the more the contours become clear. And so you can walk through this discussion with us.

159.822 - 180.57 Jordan Peterson

You'll learn more about South America and Central America. You'll learn more about Brazil. You'll learn more about the political landscape in general and about the culture war. Specifically, you'll... Have some new light shed on the battle between Musk and X and the Brazilian Supreme Court, and you'll walk away smarter and more informed. So that's a good deal. So join us for that.

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