513. Hollywood Undone and the Return to Comedy | Rob Schneider

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Rob Schneider 0:00
When there was only 200-odd million people in America, they would all watch the Academy Awards.
Jordan Peterson 0:04
And happily.
Rob Schneider 0:05
And everyone was thrilled to do it. And then what happened was, they started making these decisions. You cannot win an Academy Award unless you have 40% LBGTQ, unless you have people of a certain percentage of color. The crew is this. And so from that, I think it became an easy kind of pincer move to just kind of continue closing the door quicker.
Jordan Peterson 0:25
It's a pronounced minority of people in the world who have anything approximating the right to free speech. So the fact that we take it for granted is something like a miracle.
Rob Schneider 0:33
What happens is there becomes the machine that comes into place and that takes advantage of certain situations like this. That doesn't want to go away because that machine is making money.
Jordan Peterson 0:45
When the king dies, chaos breaks out everywhere. It's like the rise of a hydra. Something like that seems to be occurring in the West since about 2012.
Rob Schneider 0:54
The system is crumbling. If this doesn't change, nothing else matters. This shit has to stop.
Jordan Peterson 1:16
So I had the opportunity today to sit down in Scottsdale, Arizona, with Rob Schneider, and Rob's been, what, stand-up comedian, a movie star, an author. He's got this new book called You Can Do It, entitled You Can Do It. So we discussed his book. We discussed, well, to some degree, the origins of comedy in Hollywood and the collapse of the Hollywood star system. We talked about the direction in which entertainment is likely to go in the near future. We talked about the role of Hollywood in its own demise, preferring the politically correct pathway to the pathway of genuine artistic commitment and also genuine humor. We talked about our hopes that maybe that is coming to an end. Our curiosity about what the comedians, especially the successful comedians on the center right, let's say, the podcasters, for example, who've been spectacularly successful over the last five or six years, What they're going to turn to now in the aftermath of the Trump victory.
Jordan Peterson 2:22
What role are the comedians as critics going to play now that the tide has turned and there's a new king in town, so to speak. So that's going to be very interesting. We talked about, well, we talked about Rob's book, which is a testament to the power of free speech. We talked about the fact that he... decided to turn in the conservative direction for a liberal relatively early on in the course of the culture war, really starting to get involved in the political and not in the typical Hollywood manner by about 2014. And we discussed why that happened and what it meant and what the consequences have been for his career and potentially for the future. So join us for that. So I've been making my way through this, You Can Do It, and I want to ask you some questions about what I derived from reading it. So it seems to me to be fair to say that you're part of the club of, what would you say? unwitting and surprised conservatives. Yes. Right? I mean, you characterize yourself in the book as a classic liberal. That's always how I've thought of myself.
Jordan Peterson 3:39
Although I would say I'm more conservative in my views than I was 10 years ago. That might be age to some degree, because people do get more conservative as they get older. I think so. I've thought through conservatism a bit more and realized why I'm more conservative than I thought. Or maybe I realized under what conditions classic liberalism still retains its function. So anyways, you describe yourself as a classic liberal.
Rob Schneider 4:04
I do. Well, I think it's important to—terms seem to be, as you well know— seem to be an imposition for people. In other words, they want to, in this tribal nature that we find ourselves in our society, people seem to group themselves and identify themselves. very strongly, whether it's liberalism speaks to young people. Whereas what I want to do is, because I think of words have been manipulated and have been... Bastardized. Bastardized.
Jordan Peterson 4:40
That's what universities are for. They're to bastardize words.

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