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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

517. Beyond Mere Survival | Tony Robbins

23 Jan 2025

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Jordan Peterson sits down with author, success coach, and public speaker Tony Robbins. They discuss the art of communication, the immense power behind mindset, the clinical study which proved the impact of Robbins’ approach, and the reality that knowing your “why” allows you to bear any “how.”   Tony Robbins is a #1 New York Times bestselling author, entrepreneur, philanthropist, and renowned life and business strategist. In over 45 years, he has reached 100 million people across 195 countries through his transformational events. He has authored 8 bestselling books, including three #1 New York Times bestsellers: “Money: Master the Game,” “Unshakeable,” and “Life Force.” Robbins created the top personal and professional development program, with over 10 million seminar attendees. As chairman of a holding company with $8 billion in annual sales, he’s been named a top global business leader by Worth Magazine, Harvard Business Press, and Fortune, which dubbed him the “CEO Whisperer.”   This episode was filmed on January 12th, 2025.     | Links |   For Tony Robbins:   Join Tony Robbins for the Time To Rise Summit 2025 https://timetorisesummit.com/join-now?utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=&hsa_cam=19428663036&gc_id=19428663036&h_ad_id=687085712534&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7se8BhCAARIsAKnF3rxlMuI7GVZaZbcPYj8YYmfETimZIlMpN2dEM59yQtxKFN0AooIqR3AaAvx7EALw_wcB   “Tony Robbins: I Am Not Your Guru” documentary is now on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/80102204   On X https://x.com/TonyRobbins?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor   On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/TonyRobbins/   On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tonyrobbins/?hl=en   On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJLMboBYME_CLEfwsduI0wQ   Website https://www.tonyrobbins.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopb6lAZKWCHSNdMBHylzXR6t6dHnlBZW81ovKrKYajli67wMPNp     Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0.269 - 21.426 Jordan Peterson

The first thing to understand is that people see the world through their aim. Anyone can deal with the difficult today if they have a compelling tomorrow. If you leave your zone of comfort, if you move away from your father's tent, if you move away from what's familiar to you, and you do that voluntarily, and you make the sacrifices necessary as a consequence, this is what will happen.

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21.946 - 43.962 Tony Robbins

I look at it this way. We don't experience life. We experience the life we focus on. Much of what we think we're doing ourselves is being shifted by the outside world. So I say prime yourself. ... ...

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57.89 - 85.877 Jordan Peterson

Hello, everybody. I had the opportunity today to sit down with Tony Robbins and in the remarkable basement of his house as well. And so that's the setting. And Tony and I have got to know each other over the last couple of years and have had a number of discussions. And partly what we've been trying to puzzle out is are, what would you say, the similarities between our parallel endeavors?

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85.897 - 106.686 Jordan Peterson

I mean, Tony's, I suspect he's probably the most popular and impactful speaker, personal development speaker the world's ever seen. Oh no, I'm very fascinated by what he does and I've seen his events and I've reviewed some of the scientific literature pertaining to his achievements.

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106.746 - 121.675 Jordan Peterson

That's actually what we started our conversation with, because Tony's program has been subject to scientific scrutiny, and it seems to have remarkable antidepressant properties. And so I'm very interested, like Tony is, in

122.535 - 142.037 Jordan Peterson

how people chart their life course and how they establish their aim and how they determine their strategies and how they describe their conditions for fulfillment and what fulfillment is and how it can be sustained and how it can be self-improving and how it can be brought to other people. And so that's really what we spent our time discussing.

143.058 - 166.991 Jordan Peterson

I wanted to hear his thoughts on the matter and how he construed and conceptualized his approach, and also what makes him such a compelling public speaker, how he prepares for that, how he relates to the audience, how he can sustain this energy for really remarkable periods of time, because I found myself quite exhausted generally after about three hours of full-out

167.771 - 192.855 Jordan Peterson

Public speaking, let's say, because that's a performance and you've got to be all in if you're going to do it right. But Tony does that for like 12 hours a day for four days in a row, many, many times a month. And so I was curious about, well, his technique and how that was similar to mine and how it differed. And so... Well, we talked about all that, and I suppose what's the core of it all?

192.895 - 213.494 Jordan Peterson

Well, I think the core of it, at least in part, is something akin to the old Nietzschean dictum that if you have a why, you can bear any how. And so Tony helps people discover the why, well, and the how for that matter. And that is definitely akin to what I'm attempting to do when I'm lecturing and writing.

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