President Trump’s unprecedented effort to shrink the federal labor force is impeding work at government sites across the country. Three laid-off federal employees tell their story and WSJ’s Lindsay Ellis reports on the wider impact of the layoffs. Further Listening: - Inside DOGE's Campaign of Secrecy - Inside USAID as Elon Musk and DOGE Ripped It Apart Further Reading: - The Collateral Damage of Trump’s Firing Spree - The Federal Workers Who Are Not Quite Fired, Not Quite Working Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are the federal workers affected by DOGE layoffs?
My name is Victoria Delano.
My name is Keith Kamir.
My name is Brett Taylor.
I live in Birmingham, Alabama.
Chapter 2: What roles did the laid-off federal workers have?
I'm located in Milford, Pennsylvania.
I was a social work associate with the Rocky Mountain VA.
And I worked for the U.S. Department of Education Office for Civil Rights as an equal opportunity specialist.
I was actually working for the Internal Revenue Service, the infamous IRS.
Chapter 3: How are government services impacted by the layoffs?
Victoria, Keith, and Brett are among thousands of government employees who've been laid off as the Trump administration slashes the federal workforce in the name of efficiency. They say that the work they used to do could be at risk of falling through the cracks, like Victoria's job of investigating alleged civil rights violations in local schools.
My coworkers who were terminated were immediately, just like me, cut out of the system, cut out of having any ability to get into the case management system and assist with any transfer of those cases. Those cases are just lost in the abyss now.
Brett, who worked at the Department of Veterans Affairs, worries about a VA with fewer hands to help homeless vets.
not only would the veterans be in crisis, but of course the workers would feel like they're in crisis too, because now you've doubled or tripled their workload.
And Keith, who was at the IRS, says productivity is suffering.
I communicated with one of my colleagues just a couple days ago, and I said, how's things going? He says, we're just trying to figure it all out, picking up where you guys left off. So they're all scrambling.
Trump's cuts, three workers, and the reach of government efficiency. Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Kate Linebaugh. It's Thursday, March 27th. Coming up on the show, the collateral damage of the federal layoffs. The federal government has been laying off workers in a way that hasn't been seen before.
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Chapter 4: What is the reach of the federal workforce cuts?
Under the guidance of Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, tens of thousands of employees have been laid off or left their jobs.
The Social Security Administration.
The Federal Aviation Administration. The cuts have hit department after department. The Department of Veterans Affairs.
Treasury, Energy and Homeland Security. The CDC, the NIH. And the Education Department. These are agencies that Americans either rely on or interact with.
President Trump says the federal workforce includes many people who aren't doing their jobs. He also wants to reduce federal spending by $1 trillion this fiscal year. Now, in many cases, these agencies are figuring out how to do their work with fewer employees.
It was really notable to me that we are just a few months into the Trump administration, and there were all of these examples of concrete changes based on staff cuts.
That's our colleague Lindsay Ellis. She spoke with over 60 federal workers across the country who do all kinds of jobs for the government.
And the question kept coming up for me, well, what's happening to the work that so many of these people are doing? And it was really striking to me that these cuts have spawned collateral damage to the services that Americans can access and in some cases rely on.
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Chapter 5: How are specific agencies handling staff reductions?
One agency that's been hit hard is the Department of Veterans Affairs, or the VA. It says it has already laid off more than 2,000 workers and is planning to cut about 70,000 positions. Lindsay spoke to some of the laid-off VA employees. One of them was Brett Taylor.
Brett works in Denver at a VA facility, and he is a social work associate. He's worked at VA facilities for the last several years, so he's no stranger to, you know, working for the VA.
Brett is a vet himself. He served in the Army. How long were you in the military?
What'd you do? I only did three years. I only signed up for one contract. I did one year in Iraq, and I knew then that I wasn't going to do 20.
After coming home, Brett went to graduate school and got a master's degree in social work. He says he started at the VA in 2019.
almost every job i've had within the va has worked with helping veterans maintain housing while there's also a clinical component added to it like they may have substance abuse issues or they may there may be some mental health issues so not only we housing we're also assisting veterans with whatever uh other issues they may have
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Chapter 6: What is the personal impact of layoffs on federal workers?
Last summer, Brett moved to Colorado for a new job at the VA. In his role, he helps vets without housing find a permanent place to live. One of his last cases, he says, involved a veteran in his family who needed housing that would accommodate the man's disability.
The house needed to be special for him, like ramps, doors wide enough to get his wheelchair in. So they had to get housed in January. And it took us a while, but it happened.
Why can't the veterans do this on their own?
Well, some of them have barriers. Some of them are older. Some of them may have mental barriers like post-traumatic stress.
Once Donald Trump took office and created Doge, were you concerned for your job?
I was like, there's no way America would allow something like this to happen. But I was wrong.
Because Brett had recently started that new role, he was classified as a probationary employee. Those are workers who were recently hired or promoted in the last year or two. And when the Trump administration started making cuts, probationary employees were among the first targets. So Brett was laid off. How did you find out?
I was in Florida on vacation with my parents and was in Lowe's getting something from my pops. And I got a call from my coworkers that they were terminated. So I went home and I checked my phone and I was terminated as well. Immediately?
Or was there... Yeah, it was immediately. When you were laid off, how many cases did you have open? I think about 16 cases.
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