Mid-career is a Dangerous Time for Burnout
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Exploring both interstellar and interpersonal space-time continuums. The Last Show with David Cooper. Mid-career. It's supposed to be your power era. You're senior enough to matter in your job, stable enough to breathe. You're finally earning the amount that you thought you would. So why are so many people fried during this time in their career? A burnout spike might be waiting for you in your 40s. I'm here to discuss just that with Dr. Katie Elizabeth Green, a senior lecturer in leadership at Manchester Metropolitan University in England. Katie, welcome to the show.
Hi, David. Thank you so much for having me on your show today.
When I think of like mid-career burnout, I think of like CEOs, high-powered individuals. I don't think of like average people.
Why is mid-career a dangerous time for burnout?
Why is this time kind of a danger zone for a lot of us?
It's a great question, David. And yeah, we do typically think of kind of the CEO being sort of burnt out, stressed out at that top end of the organizational hierarchy. But actually, research has shown that those at mid-career are at the highest risk for getting burnt out. And some of the reasons for that really are because... At that point in somebody's career, they're often juggling multiple competing demands. So typically at mid-career, many people have small children or lots of family responsibilities. At the same time, they're at a point in their career where organizations are really putting the pressure on them Because they're not at that kind of early point, that entry point anymore. They've demonstrated their competence.
They've demonstrated their skill. And they seem to be resilient and capable. And therefore, organizations will put the pressure on at that mid-career point. So it's a real kind of... difficult period for many people a real tipping point where they've got those competing challenges of both increased pressure from organisations and also lots of challenges outside of work as well and often I think people at that point struggle to reach out it's seen as well you just have to power on and just plow through and this is how this is what everybody deals with and therefore people are not are not um not reaching out when they're feeling the stress level starting to rise it's seen as just the norm
It seems like this kind of perfect storm at work and at home. Like you're supposed to take on big responsibilities at that age. At work, you're expected to be more senior. At home, you got the marriage, the kids, the mortgage. All of a sudden, you've got all these like mid-life big responsibilities you didn't have when you're younger. If I'm feeling burnt out during this phase, is it a me problem? Is it something I'm supposed to fix? Or maybe it's like up to workplaces to address this problem.
Yeah, it's a great point. And I think there's definitely been a shift over the past five to 10 years in terms of how we're seeing burnout. Traditionally, burnout was seen as an individual problem, a lack of resilience or something like that. But actually, it's increasingly recognized that it's not an individual failing. Often, it is because a person is experiencing pressure from from lots of different areas of their life. And we see that burnout rates are much higher where people are working in environments and cultures where there's poor leadership, toxic leadership, maybe workplace bullying. extremely high workloads, lack of support. So there's those sort of structural factors that are playing into this situation and really exacerbating burnout rates.
So to go back to your question, no, it's definitely not an individual failing. It's a combination of factors that are hitting a person hard all at once.
How often do organizations have failures within it that cause people at that age to say, I'm not coping well? Is it most businesses? Is it more than we'd like to think?
It's a good question. And it really does depend on the individual because people will be affected by different factors. So one person might be working with a line manager or somebody more senior to them and they get on great with that person.
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