Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing
Podcast Image

The Last Show with David Cooper

Rapid Fire Therapy

05 Feb 2026

Transcription

Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.993 - 29.905 David Cooper

When your therapist won't take your calls anymore, there's always The Last Show with David Cooper. It's Therapy Thursdays on a Wednesday, and we are doing rapid fire therapy. We are going to hit a bunch of topics to help you. Some you might like, some you might hate, but you know who you are going to love? Gary Dierenfeld, who is here. He's a social worker. He's a therapist. Hi, hi, hi, hi.

0

31.087 - 49.483 David Cooper

You're so sweet to me. I like you and I like having you on the show. Our first topic, Gary, my mom would tell you that the answer to this question is yes. And the question is, are little white lies okay? My mom, I don't mean to throw her under the bus, but she is fine with white lies.

0

50.243 - 60.733 David Cooper

She really taught me at a young age, white lies, little white lies, like little things, you know, oh yeah, I picked up the oranges that you wanted and then you run to the store without lying, you know, without,

0

60.713 - 86.839 David Cooper

having picked them up I don't know why I chose oranges weird choice but I just mean she did it a lot growing up and then she's like well the big lies you can't do that's dishonest that makes you a dishonest person and I don't even know if that's true Gary but that's how I was raised I'm sitting here laughing I've I've had clients give me heck for telling them to use little white lies

0

86.954 - 93.91 Gary Direnfeld

Oh, I've got to be honest. I've got to be this and I've got to be that. I said, well, tell me about Santa Claus.

95.24 - 104.554 David Cooper

Tell me about the Easter bunny. As a Jew, I don't really think we should be lying to our children about Santa Claus. But that's besides the point. That's not a white lie.

104.574 - 105.576 Gary Direnfeld

That's a different bias.

105.596 - 111.886 David Cooper

That's like a strange man enters your house and steals your cookies and gives you presents. It's a weird lie.

111.926 - 143.632 Gary Direnfeld

The issue for me is less the lie than the motivation. And, you know, no, there's no monsters under the bed. There's no such thing as this. There's, you know, if you don't eat this, you're not going to grow up big and strong. We use these white lies all the time. The caution is, again, who's being served by it? And, you know, could it backfire?

Chapter 2: Are little white lies okay in relationships?

159.03 - 176.096 Gary Direnfeld

And the fallout is a lack of trust, anger, harm to the relationship. A person won't believe you anymore. So it is a bit of a risky maneuver. But again, I'm not in theory opposed.

0

177.418 - 195.62 David Cooper

That's kind of where I am too. Some people think any lie is bad. You know, for example, my girlfriend's traveling. She's leaving just in a bit. She's going to go to London. When she comes back, she's like, you better clean that apartment. If she asks me if it's clean while she's gone, I'll probably say yes. And then at the last minute, I'll clean it. Does that make me a good person?

0

195.76 - 198.163 David Cooper

No, it makes me a bad person. But like, that's a lot different.

0

198.183 - 200.205 Gary Direnfeld

But no one's going to die on that sword.

0

200.337 - 204.749 David Cooper

Exactly. It's a lot different than being like, did you steal my money? And I'm like, no.

204.85 - 207.758 Gary Direnfeld

Did you sleep with my ex? No.

208.279 - 209.102 David Cooper

Oh, her ex.

209.122 - 232.875 Gary Direnfeld

That'd be really weird if I slept with her ex, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, those little white lies, yeah, keep them in check. If it's for the benefit of the other person more than for yourself, sure. If you're using it as a defense to get out of your own issues, you may want to look at that twice.

233.8 - 251.007 David Cooper

We were watching a show together, and I really liked it, and she kept on putting it off because it was a sci-fi show. So I watched it on my phone one night while she was sleeping in bed next to me. And then she said, did you watch the show without me? And I said no, which technically was true because she was there when I watched it.

Chapter 3: What are the risks of telling white lies to children?

544.273 - 552.26 David Cooper

On a Wednesday, broadcasting is only mental health-specific content intended for a Wednesday. Wait, intended for a Thursday that airs on a Wednesday.

0

552.28 - 554.142 Gary Direnfeld

Even you mix that up.

0

554.257 - 573.064 David Cooper

Therapy Thursdays on a Wednesday. Your neighbor is so annoying with their dog. What do you do? We are talking crazy pet owners here with Gary Dierenfeld, a therapist, a social worker. We are doing rapid fire mental health slash therapy slash hot take topics. We're trying to get through as many as possible. Gary, welcome to the show.

0

573.725 - 597.46 Gary Direnfeld

I am... A crazy dog owner. By your own admission. Okay, what do you do? What do you do? Well, he sleeps between my wife and I this morning, 6 o'clock in the morning. He's a cockapoo-ossy-poo mix. So he's Australian Shepherd, Cocker Spaniel, and two poodles are in there. And he has long legs.

0

598.148 - 635.021 Gary Direnfeld

bushy eyebrows he looks like Karl Marx or not Karl Marx no the Marx brothers same difference and at six o'clock in the morning this dog is pawing at my chest leaning over licking my face waking me up I say he's doing a wellness check. My wife says he wants to go out and play. I push him off me, rub his belly, fall back to sleep. I'm not kicking my dog out of bed. I love the little guy.

635.481 - 649.645 Gary Direnfeld

Our previous dog, we had certified as a therapy dog. We did some 350 visits to seniors, residents, hospitals, and universities, spreading the joy, spreading the calm. I love my dogs.

650.387 - 663.549 David Cooper

Okay. What do you do when like a loved one is too much with the dog and demands you accommodate their brand of dog craziness a little bit too much? When we go away, we get a dog sitter.

664.171 - 665.593 Gary Direnfeld

You know, when we're on holiday.

666.034 - 680.715 David Cooper

I do all of these things. My cat's in the bed. I have a cat sitter. Like I'm all of these things with my cat. What do you do when a friend is just like so over the top with their pet? You celebrate them, David. You don't have any good advice here because you're that friend.

Comments

There are no comments yet.

Please log in to write the first comment.