Winter Storm Leviathan Conspiracy
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
For those who know that questioning everything includes questioning this show's existence. The Last Show with David Cooper. Conspiracies at the high seas. A fun topic. That's what we're going to discuss here with Nathan Radke, a professor of conspiracy studies at Humber Polytechnic. Check out his podcast, The Uncover Up. You can also watch videos of that podcast on YouTube. It is Conspiracy Corner. Nathan, welcome to the show. Ahoy, and thanks for having me on. Oh, wow. You're waiting for that one. Ahoy. That was in the chamber.
What historical conspiracies exist at the high seas?
Look, the waters are weird. The maritime laws are weird. I love conspiracies with the oceans. You got octopuses. You got disasters that are unexplained. Everything out there is strange. And we're going to talk about how this winter storm that just hit the Northeast is opening up all kinds of conspiracies. But before we do that, why are the oceans such a great place for conspiracies to brew? Get it, brew, because things brew in water.
Oh, yeah, because stuff brews in water. And because of climate change, the oceans are warming up.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've worked at a bunch of levels. So every new term, I ask my college students, hey, what conspiracies are you guys interested in? Not necessarily what they believe in, but just topics they'd be curious to look into. And it lets me tap into the zeitgeist because, of course, my students are smarter and hipper and faster and cooler and more chronically online than I am. And this year, it's not the Illuminati, it's not the aliens. This year, there's a high percentage of mentions having to do with the ocean. And exactly as you say, you got your sea monsters, you got your Bermuda Triangle. You got your Atlanteans. Can't forget the Atlanteans. And your Lemurians. Lemurians?
Give me a quick definition on that. I don't know. I've never heard that one.
Lemuria, it's another sunken, hidden continent, nonsense, Atlantis, that kind of stuff. And the Titanic. The students are all over these Titanic conspiracies. I didn't even know that there were Titanic conspiracies. Man, okay, we'll do that another day.
The iceberg was an inside job? Like, I don't... The Titanic didn't sink.
What recent winter storm sparked new Leviathan theories?
Oh, wow. Okay, obviously.
That makes perfect sense.
I believe it already. You've presented enough evidence.
We'll stick a pin in that one and come back.
Why are oceans considered fertile ground for conspiracy theories?
But it's not that surprising. I mean, conspiracy theories tend to spread in mysterious areas, and the ocean's a giant mystery in our own backyard. It's often said we know more about the surface of the moon than we know about the bottom of the ocean. And because my students are like a good general barometer of what's happening in social media in general, when they started talking about the ocean, I went to social media and I said, ooh, I bet you there's going to be some ocean conspiracies surfacing there.
I say we did there with the surface because the ocean has a has a surface. I know we're both killing it right now. What are some of the leading contenders for most curious ocean conspiracies right now?
OK, so you remember back in January, we had some like properly impressive snowfalls and we had that one particularly gnarly winter storm that swept across most of the U.S. and Canada. It's still on the streets where I'm living right now. There's still tons and tons of it outside. And it interfered with travel and commuting. And in Canada, we mostly shoveled through it. But of course, down in the States, they're not used to this much snow. And so a lot of places were just shut down for a few days to minimize chaos. And when you have people shut in at home, something weird's going on, that's just a great recipe for conspiracism.
I'm starting to realize why COVID was such an important time in conspiracy history.
I mean, absolutely, that is the case. And anytime there's an unusual weather event, which, of course, these days is a lot of the time, unfortunately, there's always a lot of conspiracy theories that come along with it. And so in recent years, weather's become more extreme. There's been a lot of discussion, sometimes even from politicians, about how this storm or that storm was actually caused by some kind of weather control device.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–0:37
2
What historical conspiracies exist at the high seas?
0:37–2:02
3
What recent winter storm sparked new Leviathan theories?
2:02–2:08
4
Why are oceans considered fertile ground for conspiracy theories?
2:08–15:34
5
What is the Leviathan and its significance in mythology?
15:34–19:12
Speakers
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