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Lawyer For Eleven Epstein Survivors Discusses Next Steps

21 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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70.94 - 95.091 Arick Fudali

Now, as I think everybody predicted, the Trump regime was not going to be forthcoming and transparent with the release of the Epstein files, whatever the hell it is that they think they turned over on Friday. It's not what the people were looking for. I mean, even the official DOJ spokesperson account says the initial deadline is being met as we work diligently to protect

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the victims, they weaponize the victims, the survivors, to say that's why this was just an initial deadline, it wasn't. The Epstein Transparency Act clearly stated that all files were to be produced in a searchable format,

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subject to appropriate legal redactions which must be justified and everything was supposed to be searchable well the search function and whatever the hell they released on friday wasn't working at all if you put in maxwell's name epstein's name trump's name it shows no results it's weird you had to like wait in a line to even access uh these these whatever the photographs

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There's some photographs of like Bill Clinton and Michael Jackson with Epstein. There's no context to the way that these photos were even produced. And we know that there are terabytes of data that the FBI and DOJ has. We know that back in March, they spent, what, a total of... literally tens of thousands of hours with thousands of DOJ and FBI officials going back through it in March.

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Then we learned from an exclusive CNN report over the past 48 hours or so that there was another thousand national security lawyers and agents who somehow got pulled into this. Apparently, some DOJ lawyers didn't even want to be involved in this at all. So, I mean, what are we talking about?

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Like 100,000, 150,000 man hours have been, or person hours, you know, put into this thing for them to turn over this? Like, do they think that we are stupid? I mean, it's so offensive and I could only wanna try to think about more than anything right now.

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what the survivors are going through, who I think at every step of this way has been disrespected by this DOJ, have not been consulted by this DOJ when they saw what this DOJ did, moving Ghislaine Maxwell from a maximum security facility in Tallahassee, where she belonged to rot for the rest of her life, or being one of the people in this, leading this child sex trafficking ring.

Chapter 2: What are the initial reactions to the release of Epstein files?

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And so I want you to talk about that, but I wonder what's your next step now? If this is what the DOJ is doing, if they're using the victim's names for lack of transparency, if there's a law on the books, the Epstein Transparency Act.

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476.014 - 494.438 Arick Fudali

Could there be now intervening in some of those cases going to Judge Engelmeyer, going to Judge Berman, going to the judge in Florida and saying, hey, you already have jurisdiction over these matters. Order them to produce it. Let's have a discovery referee. Like, let's do this the right way. What do we do now? How do we enforce this law?

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That's a really great question. I mean, the first thing has been trying to get through these documents. And you said it well yourself, you know, it almost felt like I was trying to buy concert tickets, you know, trying to get on it first.

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Even there was like a waiting room as if there was some sort of raffle or lottery to be able to have the privilege of seeing these documents at the DOJ, you know, you know, you know.

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so kind of them right to you know to make this website for us to review and there is zero context there was nothing right now as a friday there was 8 000 i think you know just files with no names it's all efta and then a number this is you know what we call in the civil litigation rule a document dump right where you just sort of hide things in plain sight by just throwing everything you can think of a bunch of documents with zero context no order no you know no rhyme or reason and then force the people

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who actually want to get information to go through it. So that's already frustrating. But, you know, it's true. The laws are the laws. And I'm so sick of this administration and, you know, and frankly, you know, past administrations of, you know, continuing to just bend laws and continue to disregard laws like a release of the Epstein files didn't need a law. Trump could have just done it.

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The DOJ just could have done it. That's how things are supposed to be done. If they really wanted to do what was best for the survivors, they wouldn't have made a months and almost years long charade of trying to hide these documents. The first request they would have said, you know what? The survivors want this. Let's give them what they deserve. But they didn't do that.

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They forced Congress to make laws and flip flop and go back and forth in their efforts to conceal efforts to change minds, delays in swearing in Congress people.

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so i mean you're you're absolutely right you know it's just such an exploitation and then using you know pretending like they're doing what's right for the survivors is such a slap in the face and it's so re-victimizing so to answer the ultimate question you know my plan is to make sure you know see what's been released and if there hasn't been enough release start looking into lawsuits you know i i am certainly not afraid to file lawsuits against this administration i just filed as you said a lawsuit against the fbi today this morning or friday

Chapter 3: How has the DOJ's handling of the Epstein case affected survivors?

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You can say, judge, look at this. This is not how discovery works. You're not just supposed to dump documents like this. You can't just ignore deadlines. This is such a frustrating situation. because who do we go to? Do we have to file a new lawsuit? Who do you go to when law enforcement is the one disobeying the law?

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1352.511 - 1377.845 Arick Fudali

I wonder, and look, I'm not practicing anymore, but I've been thinking this through. I truly wonder though, those judges who had jurisdiction over the past cases based on the Trump regime's steps of going to those judges in the context of this law, You know, you could argue before the law was passed, did these judges have jurisdiction over the law?

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But if the DOJ went to Engelmeyer and Berman and this other judge, and Engelmeyer made a very specific reference in the order to the victims and the victims' rights being trampled on, these are all kind of first impression issues because we never dealt with it before. But I do wonder if someone like an Engelmeyer has the jurisdiction to, you know, to...

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If a victim intervened or a survivor intervened and said, hey, they've listed all of this in your filing. We now need a referee. And they've accepted your jurisdiction.

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Who knows? Listen, I love the idea. I'm certainly going to be exploring that over the next few days because, again, we're going to keep fighting. We're not going to stop. If filing a lawsuit of asking Judge Engelberg, who's a fantastic judge, I've argued in front of him before. Excuse me. You know, we're going to that. We're going to pursue that.

Chapter 4: What legal actions have been taken by Epstein survivors?

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And I think all options are on the table and it's going to continue until every document has been released. Every person has been held accountable and every entity or human being who enabled, facilitated or participated in Jeffrey Jeffrey's abuse has been brought to justice.

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Eric Fudali, lawyer, managing partner, The Bloom Firm. Great work over there. Appreciate the work you're all doing. Thank you. Appreciate you having me on. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers.

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