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The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 6/16/26

16 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 4.236 Ben Meiselas

We have a lot to discuss on this episode of the Midas Touch podcast.

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A memorandum of understanding was reached by Donald Trump with Iran, and it is a memorandum of understanding that may be signed on Friday that provides for a framework to potentially negotiate technical details of a future framework involving multiple preliminary discussions at a future time that may involve a deal sometime in the future

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But what we gather is that the Trump regime has agreed to give billions and billions of dollars to Iran, potentially more than $300 billion, which JD Vance, who MAGA Republicans are now attacking as the architect of this deal, didn't deny when he gave interviews early this morning.

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But folks, all you gotta do is just paint it blue and say it's good and say there's no algae and say it's amazing and just say it's a great deal.

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Chapter 2: What are the implications of the Iran MOU leak?

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and just try to sell it to the american people right i mean the reflecting pool analogy the reflecting pool metaphor is so apt to everything this trump regime does they said that they were going to fix everything in the reflecting pool by not actually addressing the issues of where algae comes from but just paint the bottom blue american flag blue

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Because then we can turn it into some sort of culture war type issue if you're against painting it blue. And then voila, it's going to be amazing.

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As we warned about on the Midas Touch Network in early May when we heard about this plan, basic science, basic facts would tell you that it was going to become infested with algae and be far worse than it ever was before when frankly, this was not a top issue or a major issue or really an issue at all that Americans were focused about. And sure enough,

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painting it blue didn't work and the algae is back. But the significant point I think I want to bring up on this episode is that the algae comes back. You can try to hide what you're doing to the economy when you tariff the world. You can try to hide the damage you're doing to America standing in the world. But ultimately, it turns out you didn't do $21 trillion worth of deals last year.

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It turns out that tariffs have the impact that people who know this stuff told you was going to happen. It's going to rise. It's going to lead to rising inflation.

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and it's going to weaken your standing in the world when you head to france right now for the g7 and the world has kind of moved on from you and you can claim you controlled the straight of her moves or that your deal is so much better than obama's non-nuclear jcpoa deal but when you ultimately take a look at it eventually you see the algae and the cover-up

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goes away and the American people see it for what it is and also see the kind of oddity and the grossness of it, like the algae that we see right there. You know, this Trump doing this UFC event, again, falling asleep there, then flying to France where bizarrely speaking to Macron about the UFC fight and holding Macron's wife's hand and just looking lost and delusional.

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We're going to cover it all and more here on the Midas Touch podcast. Great to be here with everybody. Brett and Jordi are here.

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We've got a lot, a lot to discuss, including how this purported, I say purported, it's not a deal, a memorandum of understanding that may be signed on Friday that will lead to technical negotiations in the future, how this all kind of came about and what the reaction is. Well, some might call this a concept of a plan, brothers. It's good to be here with you guys.

Chapter 3: How does Trump's Reflecting Pool symbolize his presidency?

414.948 - 422.466 Dr. Craig Spencer

I'm just going off of your word. And then when the person asks you the question on TV and you dance around it, I have to kind of interpret

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422.446 - 441.872 Dr. Craig Spencer

what's in the deal that's pretty shady i think we have a couple of clips that will show about that i think that kind of points to the fact that maybe this isn't all great maybe maybe this isn't a win maybe this is more of what brett was alluding to a a surrender capitulation however you want to put it i'm excited to get into the show though benji where are we starting off

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441.852 - 473.023 Ben Meiselas

I think I want to say at the outset, though, doing this deal of all of the options was probably the only option that existed. I want to be very careful when I talk about this because I don't want any misunderstandings about what my overall views of this war were to begin with, right? This was a catastrophic and unlawful war that Trump went into with Netanyahu.

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They made a bunch of promises about what was going to happen. They lied about everything. They engaged in more war crimes on top of war crimes they've already committed. And we should never have been involved in this at all Iran did not pose any imminent nuclear threat and everything that was being sold to the American people by Trump and Netanyahu was an utter lie.

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And including the fact when they said, we're winning this, don't worry, they're going to be total surrender, total capitulation. So when I'm being very critical of the deal, it is in the sense that there was a deal that existed

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before and former president obama's non-nuclear deal the jcpoa that donald trump pulled the united states out of this was by the way kind of certified and blessed by the united nations and congress and it was done on a multilateral basis the jcpoa and when donald trump pulled the united states out of the jcpoa

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in 2018, I did a video on it earlier this morning, former President Obama on that day in May 2018 predicted everything that was going to happen.

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America losing its credibility internationally, that if you don't stand by your deals, especially when they go in front of the United Nations and Congress, people won't trust you, that it'll ultimately just lead to a war and a worse deal, and that not everything needs to be accomplished via military force and that there is a place for diplomacy.

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And so when you look at the terms that we believe exist in this deal, they give more money to Iran than former President Obama did. I mean, we could be talking

Chapter 4: What are the financial details of the Iran deal being discussed?

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but this is kind of Trump's behavior his whole life. And it's part and parcel of a plan to not live by your word if you don't have written words and you kind of feast on the ambiguity. But Iran's been able to outplay him and checkmate him

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880.147 - 907.048 Ben Meiselas

in those uh avenues as well so donald trump he has this ufc event which is very weird i mean you you've heard all of the offensive stuff that's come out of it you have these ufc fighters who are out there saying on stage at the white house michelle obama's a man and it's like that's not funny i mean it's like what are you like a weird third grade bully like it's it's not even it's not humorous it's not witty it's not

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edgy, it's just, it's rude, it's pathetic, and this is the White House that you're desecrating. Donald Trump was also sleeping through most of it. He then gets aboard Air Force One, and then he, for those on audio, we're just showing photos of Donald Trump sleeping at the UFC event, like Dana White had to like nudge him. And then he goes to France,

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and then fox state regime media when he gets to france because there's a g7 meeting fox is like applauding the idea that he's able to walk and you know he looked horrible in france he looked like he wasn't even there in the room like he was physically there but fox was acting like uh oh my this is incredible that he's even able to walk and be awake

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Like that's our standard right now for the president of the United States. Let me show you how Fox was describing his arrival in France as though it's a major accomplishment that the guy's alive and that his eyes are open and that he was able to like, I guess, walk a little bit. Not good, but here, let's play what Fox had to say.

975.389 - 992.897 J.D. Vance

They're talking about something. My main observation so far is that this is the first time I've seen a world leader photo where the other leader, not Donald Trump, gave a thumbs up and the president just kept his hands at his sides. The fact that he can even walk, Peter, given all he's been through in the last 24 hours, I think really is quite remarkable.

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He's got to be beyond exhausted. Fact that he can even walk after all he's been through. in the past 24 hours is really unbelievable. He did some bizarre UFC event and then because of his weakness and his lies, he dragged us into a catastrophic war and then has some MOU that was announced that, It's very hard to sign a DocuSign. You have to first open up the website, type, click the button.

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It automatically does your signature, and then you have to click sign. I have a real question for you, though, Brent, and I'll toss it to you. And Jordy, you can maybe answer after. Do you think he's even, I mean, I'm being dead serious, and I think he hasn't, what I'm about to say. I don't think he's even read the document. I don't even think he's looked at the document.

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And I don't think he ever will look at the document. I don't think he's much of a reader. I doubt that he actually read the full document, which is, I think, only like a couple of pages at this point. But he was probably told by people what's in it. You know, that's how I interpret it.

Chapter 5: How did Trump's actions at the UFC event reflect his state of mind?

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I mean, if you want to run back those same arguments with Donald Trump here, you could run back those same arguments. If It seems like Donald Trump is giving the Iranians far more money, this regime. And you also see the shifting rhetoric of Trump throughout this process.

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I mean, there was a quote that like, I don't mean to say blew my mind because nothing honestly shocks me so much anymore with this guy. But in the Wall Street Journal last night, one of the quotes that came out from Trump was like, yeah, we don't really care about the nuclear material. You know, well, it's really it's harmless.

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harmless we'll go we'll go in you know in a few months maybe we'll we'll talk about it we'll we'll figure out what to do it's hot that was the whole justification for going into this war so he said that and in the same article he also said yeah you know i don't really care much about regime change not really not really a big deal not really something on my mind when it comes to this deal we'll work with the new people you know i just want to have a relationship with the new folks it's the same regime but more hardline folks who you're dealing with right now

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So I had somebody respond to me on social media the other day when I was speaking about this deal, and they went on a whole thing, oh, so you don't care about the Iranian people, so you're okay that the regime killed X amount of Iranian protesters back. I said, no, I'm not okay.

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That's why I think going in there, promising them that you were going to do this regime change war, and then trying to become buddy-buddy with the regime is not how you help the people. You're screwing the people and you've killed the people with these strikes. You bombed a girl's school. You've done everything possible to alienate those people who you pretended to help.

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And now at the end of it, you go, yeah, never really cared much about that anyway. And that nuclear thing, man, I don't know. Maybe we'll figure something out. Hopefully we could open the straight though. The straight was open before all this. And now it's still in limbo. We still don't know who is going to control the straight.

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Iran is saying that they and Oman are going to be controlling the straight. They're saying that there's going to be this period, the 60 day MOU period, the memorandum of understanding period where there maybe won't be tolls, but after that, they're going to figure out a way to implement tolls and Iran will make far more money than they've ever made by even unfreezing their own funds.

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Donald Trump has set the Iranian regime up, the oppressive Iranian regime that he acted like he wanted to overthrow in the beginning. He set them up to be richer than ever. He set them up to be a major player.

Chapter 6: What are the criticisms surrounding J.D. Vance's role in the Iran deal?

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He set them up to show that they could assert economic dominance, not only over the United States, but over the entire world by simply shutting down the straight. At the end of the day, Iran showed that they had the cards and Donald Trump showed that he was a paper tiger.

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Well said, Bea, really well said. Ben, to go back and answer your question too, no, I don't think he's read the text. I think it's well documented that he doesn't like read long things. If there's a lot of words on paper, he won't read it. What he does get are like those bullet points. I think more so and more concerning over the second Trump regime that we're seeing now is that

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he's kind of dictating by vibes right he's letting a lot of the social media chattering class like get into his ear if it's a good deal or if it's a bad deal or kind of it feels like that's how he's dictating policy this time around this time around not that he ever did any sort of critical thinking but this now more than ever as his cognitive ability and as his own cognitive decline continues to take shape it feels like he's just kind of leaning on more of the people around him hey how are

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1509.314 - 1529.045 Dr. Craig Spencer

How are people thinking of this? Am I great? Are people loving this? And then when he doesn't get the answer he wants, he like blows the whole thing up and starts from scratch again. So I still don't feel like we're close. Again, this memorandum of understanding, this assistant to the regional manager, if you will, Where is it?

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If it is so great and does all of this great stuff and it's such a victory for us, why can't we read it? What are they trying to hide? It reminds me of the pilots. Where are the pilots? We had this great heroic rescue mission where we recovered our pilots

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and we took them home and they're safe and sound where are they we know time and time again from maga that any time that they could spike the football like really spike the football on a win or the perception of a win they they pimp out everyone and everything that they can right they'll have them show up to the big speeches they'll they'll they'll plaster them on social media they'll have you know press conferences about it

1569.811 - 1593.675 Dr. Craig Spencer

they're just sending out jd vance and being like answer for this dude and like go ahead and answer for this and try and convince everyone this is so great meanwhile like all we're asking for is where's the text you could say it's this great thing or whatnot where is it we want to actually physically read it i don't understand what you're hiding but i do get what you're hiding because it's probably not as great as you're trying to get the country to believe it is and then just the last thing going back to that box clip

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It's amazing he's even walking right now. He said that so earnestly. What was he doing? It's not like he just ran a mile or ran a triathlon, right? Oh, my God, it's amazing he's even walking around. What a stud. No, he was at his own birthday party that the UFC decided to throw on the White House lawn and have this fight in front of him and everyone, which he fell asleep at.

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And then he jumped on a plane, likely fell asleep the whole time on the plane, and then got up and started shaking hands and walking. And Fox News is like, it's amazing he's even walking right now. That is like, what strength, what power.

Chapter 7: What lessons can be learned from the failures of Trump's foreign policy?

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We will be right back.

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1941.753 - 1965.381 Dr. Craig Spencer

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Chapter 8: How does the podcast analyze the media's portrayal of Trump's actions?

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If it doesn't say it, it doesn't say it. Ultimately, if it says it, we should come to terms with what this really means and understand it. I'm trying to be ultra-realistic right here. I mean, look, America lost this war. And when you lose the war, you have to make concessions. That's part of losing the war.

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And when I say we lost, Trump promised X, Y, and Z were gonna happen, regime change, obliteration, we're gonna get their ballistic missiles, knock out their conventional weapons that serve as a shield. for the nuclear, none of that stuff happened, okay? So, but the question is, and we're adults, we're grownups, we can handle this.

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If you told me, hey, there's a $300 billion fund, here's the mechanism for it, this is part of the kind of gulf countries that are building x y and z and here's part of the plan that's gonna you know hopefully develop other other areas in the region and that money could you know that 300 billion can lead to three trillion dollars in economic growth that America can also take part in.

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And it's part of a comprehensive peace strategy that we never had before. And could this potentially lead to a two-state solution where Palestine can exist and the genocide can end? Like, you can, like, I can handle it.

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2362.953 - 2380.658 Ben Meiselas

right like you know i can handle it but if if you don't and it seems like just a bribe or a payment and you're being shady about it then i think wow you're being shady about it because there it you haven't thought through these second and third and fourth level consequences when obama

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unfroze 1.7 billion dollars in funds as part of the jcpoa it was part of a broader mechanism of multilateral inspections that ensured and this is an important point that people forget about the jcpoa it created the mechanism not just for iran but for

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north korea and when donald trump pulled out of the jcpoa it sent the message that this template that was going to be used for north korea would never work because the u.s would never keep its word so kim jong-un viewed trump's withdrawal of the jcpoa and say got it this guy is an easy mark

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let's do the love letter thing and drag this out and build the nuclear weapons so part of obama's thinking behind the jcpoa was north korea as well and it was reducing proliferation of nuclear weapons and the kind of law of the strong law of the jungle as an international governing principle and keeping kind of a multilateral aspect so and obama told us Here's why these funds are being unfrozen.

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And that was used by Trump relentlessly to attack Obama because it's easy to tear apart deals. It's easy to criticize, condemn, and attack. It's hard to balance all of these stakeholders in a complex world and do a deal that works. And Trump's seeing that, and his plan to all of this is, well, let's just paint it blue. Now, to me, that's the symbolism of all of this.

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