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Chapter 1: What does the Iran MOU signing mean for U.S. foreign policy?
Donald Trump looked like death at the G7 in France. It was perhaps the most embarrassing performance by any United States president at an international event ever. Cognitively, physically deteriorating before our eyes, saying some of the weirdest oddest things to world leaders and some of the most dangerous things as well.
He then went to Versailles where he signed the purported Memorandum of Understanding with Iran in Farsi, I might add, because we know Donald Trump speaks Farsi well. hearkening back to 1919 when the Germans signed the Treaty of Versailles, surrendering in World War I. We'll talk about that memorandum of understanding.
He then returned back to Washington, D.C., where he kept on talking about the stock market and how he's pumping up the markets and how amazing everything is. And meanwhile, he's got his propagandists continuing to post these images that aren't even the real images of the reflecting pool. The reflecting pool has just turned and has turned this week this Ninja Turtle green color.
And now on top of it, because they poured so much hydrogen peroxide all over it, it's now caused the blue paint to kind of float to the top. And it looks like you have these like mutant stingrays swimming around the reflecting pool. with these algae mutant stingrays. I don't even know what we're even looking at.
We'll talk about that, but it is the perfect metaphor and symbolism for the Trump regime, their coverup, their painted blue attitude, and just pretend everything is growing great while the American people are suffering, while our foreign policy is in shambles, while the United States is a laughingstock to the world that Donald Trump would always accuse others of making the United States.
It really is now both a horror show and a laughing stock. And we will cover this and more, as well as thankfully, former President Obama and Michelle Obama spoke at the opening of the Obama Presidential Library. Because after all of this sludge and algae and grotesque thing that is this Trump regime, it wore my heart to remember what actual leadership looks like, decency, compassion, honor.
We'll talk about that and more on this episode of the Midas Touch Podcast. Brett and Jordy, how are you guys doing?
doing great good to be here ben good to be here jordan good to be here midas mighty thank you for tuning in if you're watching live and thank you for listening if you're listening on apple podcast or spotify or whatever audio podcast you're listening to thank you so much isn't it such a nice palette cleanser to see the obamas out there i mean i i think we need more of that quite frankly if i had one complaint about obama i want to see him out there more because every time i see him
He's like the hydrogen peroxide, so to speak, wiping away the infested algae that is- He's the nanobubbler.
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Chapter 2: How did JD Vance's White House briefing impact public perception?
But I think really the most important aspect about it is that if they're willing to lie about something so inconsequential, then of course we know they're going to lie about everything, just like they have lied throughout this entire war, just like they're even lying right now. They lied about the terms of the Memorandum of Understanding saying, that's not what the terms are at all.
And then it comes out and it's like exactly what the terms are, like everyone's worst fears as to what was actually in this document is what was there. And then they just now try to relentlessly post online like, lethality, America only wins, another victory, flawless. And it's like, you lost, like you lost, just like stop. Like it makes you look weak. It makes you look insecure.
It makes the whole country look like a joke. I know you've already done that already, but like you're digging your hole even deeper and everybody involved in this administration
is really going to be stained by the stench of of trump and all these policies uh let's get into it uh first we've got to toss it over to jordy jordy what's the latest brothers might as mighty great to be here pumped to get into tonight's show benji back to you where are we starting off tonight you know what i didn't think about before this trump regime nano bubblers
Treasury yields, the Strait of Hormuz, the tank loads that VLCCs can hold. I didn't think about these strategic reserves all that frequently. There are things that you take for granted because experts and people handling things with regularity and normalcy would do certain things.
And so you wouldn't be thinking about, oh, how's the nanobubbler working in the reflecting pool and whether there were issues or not issues with the reflecting pool in the past. It wasn't hoisted up as the major cause of a prior presidential administration. But this Trump regime, all they've talked about is the reflecting pool, the reflecting pool.
And they use the reflecting pool to attack Obama and Biden and their reflecting pool was disgusting and we're gonna make the greatest reflecting pool. And the same thing about the arches and the ballrooms and all of this stuff that the American people like, hey, hello? Health care, please. Homes, please. Housing. Affordability. What in the world are you doing? You're doing more never-ending war.
Can you stop that and can you focus on – you're doing a $300 billion fund to Iran when basically you did a deal –
that is weaker than obama's jcpoa deal and weaker than the deal that oman negotiated back on february 27th before netanyahu brought us into this unlawful and catastrophic war in the fourth war in the first place hello what in the hell is what the hell is going on so we'll start off just by showing you this post from the interior department social media account because again it's symbolic of everything we're going to talk about on this episode
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Ukraine's drone attack on Moscow?
We all remember. The infamous Obama reopening of the reflecting pool. I know that was all on the top of everybody's mind. Do you remember the infamous reopening of Obama reflecting pool? Or you go back to the 1922 reflecting pool. No, Donald, I think people...
with a sense of history are more likely to remember the Treaty of Versailles signed by Germany in 1922 in Versailles than the grand opening of the 1922 Reflecting Pool. Because I think there are certain hierarchy of world events and things that impact people. But, you know, that's just me.
Let's pull up that message one more time, because then the Trump regime says the reflecting pool water is crystal clear and our National Park Service team is now vacuuming up the dead algae resting on the bottom of some parts of the reflecting pool, just like, and this is what they write, the destroyed Iranian Navy resting on the bottom of the Persian Gulf. Like they make the metaphor clear.
Perfect, because the Iranian Navy isn't resting at the bottom of the water. I don't even understand the point other than to make the point that I'm making, which is that you lie about everything. The Iranian Navy's there. That's why they call the Strait of Hormuz their ballistic missile. missiles are there, their ability to enrich uranium is there, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is there.
And everything you've told us about the war is a lie and everything which we can see and observe with our own eyes. And everything you say about this reflecting pool, which you've now made your biggest cause versus what the American people are actually going through, we can see with our eyes. And, you know, the Trump regime's plan was first we're going to paint it blue and say it's great.
And then that didn't work because algae, algae is a thing. The water source hasn't changed. It's the Potomac Basin. That's what happened and what led to a lot of the algae being built up. Shallow waters, very humid, DC's a swamp, algae's microscopic, asexual, sexual reproduction, algae spawns, it grows, it spreads, it's hard to stop. And that's one of the main issues that we have with this algae.
And so the Trump regime says, let's pour hydrogen peroxide on it. Okay, you know what that's going to do in addition to make the reflecting pool like now a death trap for ducks? What it's also going to do is going to rip apart the blue paint because that's what hydrogen peroxide does. So now they've created...
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Chapter 4: How is Israel responding to the Iran agreement?
These, they're like mutant stingray looking things that are the blue paint that kind of form these like mutant fish looking things. And it's like, what in the hell is going on? You see, for those on audio, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Like on the right-hand side, you can see it. But that is everything with this Trump regime. That is their policy with Iran.
And so when they talk about this MOU, they act like what? we won but you read the document and it is not a document of the side that wins i've told you before my view we should never been in this catastrophic and unlawful war in the first place that said of all of the options since we were in this war escalating it was the wrong decision we were
Days at most weeks away from hitting tank bottom, which Trump admitted when he was at the G7, which would have meant we would have run out of oil. You would have went to the gas station. There would have been none there and it would have created a global depression and mass panic. We were days at most weeks away from that.
There was an economic depression that we were on the verge of as well, which Trump admitted to also. And so that's why, and Iran successfully choked the Strait of Hormuz. They took the United States bombings and maintained a lot of their capabilities and forced Donald Trump into a submission and Trump blinked. And so this was the only solution that existed.
I don't want you to believe or get the wrong idea when I'm critical of this deal. I actually believe of all of the available options, given that Donald Trump got us in this catastrophic, unlawful war, that this deal is the right thing of all of the wrong options. But where I want to be critical of is all of the promises, everything that was sold, everything that was claimed.
And even to this day, when they act like this thing was stronger than Obama's, like it objectively isn't. It's not even a deal. It's a memorandum of understanding that has future discussions about frameworks in the future or whatever. I hope it works out because the American people are suffering.
When I heard today that gas prices nationally, whether this is true or not, this is what the data from the gas industry is saying, $3.99 a gallon, it's under $4. If that's true, that's great. I want to root for the fact that people
need relief right now but this all of this the 300 billion dollar fund the the the the gas prices go all of this the suffering has been caused by trump a warmonger trump and vance and all of these people who are now out there saying that they're the firefighters when they are the arsonists in the first incident one more point i'll point out then i'll throw it to you brett you know with this 300 billion dollar fund when they go oh
You know, the $300 billion, it's not the United States that's taxpayer dollars that's going. One, Donald Trump said the same thing about the east wing of the ballroom, that no taxpayer dollars are going. We know he lies about these things, okay?
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Chapter 5: What is the current state of Trump's approval ratings?
So just that very basic point. i'm going to say he's probably lying about and taxpayers my guests are directly paying for it but even if it wasn't so you are now the champion of a 300 billion dollar investment in iran when you took out, for example, $200 to $300 billion in investments in rural hospitals and in things that the United States needs.
So your fight was a $300 billion fund for Iran while you're ripping away the American people's health care. So of course it impacts the American people on a cost-benefit analysis of how the American people are suffering as a result of this. Brett and Jordan, I'll turn it over to you. Well said, Ben. And I think you have to acknowledge two things that may seem contradictory when you say it.
But the first thing is this was a surrender. I mean, it's objectively a surrender. And I actually find it interesting now that if you even go to Wikipedia, the Wikipedia page for this war, the editors have since added when it says the result of the war for 2026 Iran war, it says result Iranian victory. And it talks about this memorandum.
It says regime change failure, straight up Hormuz crisis, escalation of the Israeli Hezbollah conflict, global economic disruption, and fuel crisis. So the objective kind of data surrounding this war points to the fact that this was a surrender for the United States. In addition to that, I could point you to an age-old adage, idiom, if you will, to the victor goes the spoils, okay?
The winning country is getting a lot of money, out of this. And you could say it's coming directly from the United States, or you could say it's coming from these nations in the Middle East who are going to do it. Either way, it's coming from the United States in some capacity because we're going to be funding those nations as well.
And this is the kind of thing that Republicans would endlessly go after Obama about and Biden about when they didn't do anything even close to this ever. All Obama and Biden maybe did was unfreeze Iran's funds that they already had. Something that Trump is doing as well with this memorandum of understanding at actually a greater scale.
But in addition to that, giving them a $300 billion reconstruction fund to build. So you have the United States spending, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars for the war and now managing this $300 billion fund to give Iran so that they could rebuild. I think that's a pretty good sign that Iran has won this thing.
I mean, when you look at it and, you know, I could pull up all the receipts of Don Jr. and and Trump and all these various people saying the criticisms about Obama unfreezing $6 billion and trying to play politics with that. Well, your dad, Donald Trump, he just did it to a much greater extent.
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Chapter 6: How did the Obama Presidential Center opening affect political discourse?
As somebody who wants to support the United States of America, I think we should all frankly be rooting for this thing to succeed, even though it is a surrender, even though it is an utter disaster. I think we hope that it restrains some of the fighting in the region.
But I don't think any of the sides have necessarily given us confidence to believe that this is going to be some sort of enduring peace, but I sure hope it is. I hope it is because this is about real lives. It's about the economic disruption of everybody. So I genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, hope it works out.
I'm not partisan in that way where I'm going to just trash something because Trump did it. I think it's a terrible deal, but I agree with you, Ben. I think it's the best of all the kind of various options that were on the table.
I wish this was a deal then, and we would have gotten a better deal, by the way, but I wish this was a version of a memorandum of understanding that was reached before Donald Trump decided to drop bombs on the country and throw the entire world into chaos and disrupt the oil markets, disrupt the energy markets, kill a bunch of innocent girls, kill our troops.
That would have been great if this was it. And by the way, that still would have been weaker than Obama's JCPOA. What would have been even the best is if Trump just back in the day in his first term actually kept Obama's deal, which is far stronger than this. But, you know, Trump made his bed. Now he's lying in it. Unfortunately, we all have to lie in it as well.
So given these current circumstances of the way the world is currently structured, I certainly hope this works out. You already see a lot of signs that Israel and Hezbollah are still fighting. Israel killed a few people earlier today in Hezbollah. This is another one of kind of Iran's red lines around the MOU. So I'm incredibly worried about that.
You're starting to see Trump and Vance and people in the administration finally try to use their power to speak out against some of the actions of Israel. It feels a little late at this point. And as Ben said, these are the arsonists now trying to pretend to be the firefighters. And I also don't trust that that is going to be an enduring stance from Trump and Vance and all of these folks.
They should have been pushing this anyway. I mean, you need to constrain everybody in the region, quite frankly, or else you're going to have this tit for tat, tit for tat, tit for tat,
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Chapter 7: What are the consequences of Trump's economic policies?
that goes on for years and years and years, the way we've basically seen these sorts of fights in that region go on for years and years and years and years and years. And so I hope this is a chance, you know, where we could see some sort of semblance of peace and rebuilding of the Middle East. But, you know, hope isn't a strategy and we don't have the smartest people running things here.
And so, you know, we'll have to wait and see. But I truly, from the bottom of my heart, I hope this thing works out for the betterment of the entire world. We should have never been in this war in the first place. In my view, it was an illegal war. And I think the sooner we get out of that region, the better. We just should not be doing these things.
how many times do we have to do this and learn our lesson?
And quite frankly, all of the other people, I hope, you know, instead of gaslighting themselves into thinking we won, I hope they realize that we did lose and that this was a surrender and that this was a humiliation for the United States, because the next time that they decide that they want to do something like this, I hope they have a second thought and go, maybe it's not a great idea to invade a country in the Middle East because it's not going to work out so well for our
country, for the world, for our citizens, for our soldiers. It's just not a good idea. Let's try to pursue a path of diplomacy. And frankly, the fact that Mark Levin and Netanyahu and all the most radical people out there are against this thing at least makes me to some respect and on some level be like, okay, so maybe it's not that bad after all. It's horrible for the United States.
But like I said, i if if i don't want to pursue an option of war hawks you know and i don't want to be dragged into more war more violence more bloodshed more explosions i don't think that works out well for anybody and these same people who constantly have pushed us into these wars over the past few decades
are the same ones who want to just drag this war out again i think it's up to us to say enough enough of the war you lost you humiliated the united states let's move on let's rebuild and let's try to figure out how to actually make the best out of this horrific situation that you've caused
exactly be really well said for me it like comes down to like like good mou bad mou like that's not even how i view this like in the whole context personally for me it just always comes back to what was the point of all of this like genuine what was the point this was a war of choice by donald trump and he got our service members killed which he downplays every single time he's asked about it it's absolutely disgusting and just
a total failure of any sort of accountability and leadership that you expect a president to take. It's really pathetic and should outrage everyone. Our gas prices just hiked, skyrocketed. People were furious. They still are. And look, regime change, no regime change happened. It was a complete failure. And again, what was this for? All to seemingly reopen the Strait of Hormuz?
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Chapter 8: How do the hosts reflect on leadership qualities in comparison to past presidents?
That was open before we inserted ourselves into this in the first place. I have no understanding of why Donald Trump decided to do this because we're basically just back in the same situation, but now less well off because of it. It's absolutely pathetic, man. What was the point of this? To bomb a little girl's school?
This was absolutely pathetic, a total abdication of leadership from Donald Trump and his presidency. The Trump regime should be humiliated and they should feel this embarrassment for years to come.
And when you talk about rebuild, we need to rethink and restructure and reevaluate in general, like what we are even doing, because a lot of the kind of fundamental assumptions of the United States presence in the Middle East, you know, is wrong and was inflaming problems and creating more instability.
And that's why, as you mentioned, when you have Netanyahu and you have Mark Levin and you have Smutrich and Ben-Gavir and all of these people out there who are saying, well, we're not leaving Lebanon. It's not yours. It's not yours to be in. It's Lebanon's Lebanon. and stop blowing up buildings in Lebanon, stop the genocide in Gaza. And when I hear J.D.
Vance saying things like that, I go, on the one hand, Brett, to your point earlier, the complex thoughts, I agree with what J.D. Vance is saying on June 18th. But this was JD Vance basically having a debate with JD Vance from February 27th, when JD Vance and Donald Trump and Hegseth and Rubio and this whole war criminal regime went into this war.
And so within a span of a few months, an entire ideological change has occurred and the Trump regime tries to sell this as, oh, it occurred because we won. When it's like, no, you all went in under the assumptions that you would be greeted as heroes. But you were viewed as war criminals, warmongers, people trying to conquer and impose their will. And you were resisted and you lost.
And now you're changing the view very transactionally. And so it feels so abrupt. And so as we assess JD's behavior and Trump's behavior and all of this behavior, we have to hold these complex thoughts, but also know that we're inherently dealing with deceitful lying shitty humans who will change this view tomorrow if it suits them and the day after.
So who, when I see a clip of JD Vance seemingly standing up to Israel in the sense of stop these bombings of Beirut buildings and Daya and Tyre, stop doing this. I go to my, I'm shaking my head and saying, well, I agree with JD Vance, but then also I'm saying,
is this even who is this guy this is a guy who's changed his name three or four different times this is a guy with multiple identities who called trump hitler and then loved trump and then this and that these aren't people who have any core sense of beliefs values or ideas and it shifts overnight very transactionally. I'll say this, Ben. Say what you want about me or us.
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