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Tom Steyer Discusses Affordability and Governor’s Race

07 Dec 2025

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86.043 - 110.16 Ben Meiselas

Relax, we're exactly on the trajectory where we want to be. That's what MAGA Mike Johnson is saying when he was asked a question about affordability and the struggles of the American people. Melanie Zanona asked him, so what do you make of the concerns of people who are struggling living paycheck to paycheck right now? People feeling psychologically tortured under this Trump regime?

110.14 - 124.479 Ben Meiselas

What's gonna happen? He goes, just wait until next year. The budget bill's gonna kick in. The direct quote was, relax. We are exactly on the trajectory where we've always planned to be. Stay at the wheel, everybody. It's gonna be fine.

Chapter 2: How does Tom Steyer define affordability in California?

125.04 - 147.93 Ben Meiselas

Our best days are ahead of us. Melanie Zanona then asked whether Johnson agrees with Donald Trump's assessment that affordability concerns are a hoax or a con job, to which Maga Mike goes, affordability is a real concern, but you see, Republicans, we're the ones that are dialed in like a laser with a laser focus on the cost of living and affordability.

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148.331 - 162.569 Ben Meiselas

What he's referring to as a hoax is that the Democrats are trying to pretend as if it's a Republican problem. Oh, okay. Well, let's see what Donald Trump actually said in the Oval Office, Megan. Mike, let's play it. It's a conjunct.

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163.39 - 173.164 Donald Trump

I think affordability is the greatest conjunct. They look at you and they say affordability. They don't say anything else. Everyone says, oh, their prices were so low.

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173.184 - 195.396 Ben Meiselas

No, they had the worst inflation. Really? I mean, because you seem to be bringing the inflation up and you seem to also be having a jobless rate that looks like the Great Recession right now. And it seems that all of the people in your regime are focused on some of the strangest things in the world. Regression bringing us back to times when there weren't safety standards.

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195.436 - 215.687 Ben Meiselas

And you have Sean Duffy, the transportation secretary, says, you know, the real issue is people don't say please and thank you enough when they go on airplanes anymore. And he goes, what we need to do is bring back the station wagon of the 1970s. Now, who right now, while you're struggling, is saying, you know what we really need right now? That 1970s station wagon.

215.707 - 218.532 Ben Meiselas

That's what I'm missing in my life. Let's play this clip.

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And also, I think if you're building a car, developing a car that Joe Biden or Pete Buttigieg wanted you to build, that's different than market demand. I want the market to decide what kind of EV I should offer, what kind of vehicles do the American consumers want to buy. This rule will actually allow you to bring back the 1970s station wagon. Maybe a little wood paneling on the side, Phil.

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We can bring back toys to consumers.

242.997 - 251.033 Ben Meiselas

okay and then sean duffy says make sure you say please and thank you when you're in the airports no more pajamas everybody here play this clip of duffy

Chapter 3: What healthcare solutions does Tom Steyer propose for Californians?

300.138 - 301 Ben Meiselas

Here, play this clip.

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300.98 - 319.039 Donald Trump

Take a look at it because right now, from a financial standpoint, it's not easy being up in Congress. And I think that we can't limit the ability for people to do business and operate their lives. So I want to take a look at that, but I want to be careful we don't squeeze it too hard to where nobody even wants to come up here.

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319.019 - 335.476 Ben Meiselas

Don't squeeze it too hard. All right, I want to bring in Tom Steyer, Democratic candidate for governor of California. Tom, it's great to see you. But Tom, you're a billionaire. That's not something that, you know, I think you hide or people will know that about you.

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335.897 - 347.929 Ben Meiselas

And I'm thinking to myself right now, candidly, I said, do we need another billionaire hedge fund successful story running the state after we're seeing what's going on? And you're saying, look,

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347.909 - 374.997 Tom Steyer

tax me more i you know i i hear your claims of affordability so so talk to us tom about your campaign can a billionaire right now understand what the american people are going through look the issue in california is affordability i don't care what donald trump says the working people of this state who have built this state and make this state run are getting run over by costs starting with rent

375.938 - 397.137 Tom Steyer

What I'm talking, the question is not who knows that problem. Everybody knows that problem except Donald Trump. The question is who can get results for the California people? And yeah, I am a business person who started a very successful business and walked away from it 15 years ago so I could give back to the state of California, which has given me so much. And what have I done?

397.738 - 420.429 Tom Steyer

I have gotten results. I have taken on the oil companies in a proposition when everyone said no one beats the oil companies and I beat them. I took on the tobacco companies when no one was willing to take on the tobacco companies and beat them. And I took on huge out of state companies that were gaming their California state income tax and beat them too. Why was I willing to do that?

420.809 - 447.41 Tom Steyer

Because I don't care. I understand that special interests are ripping off Californian citizens. And so the question is, who's gotten results? I've put billions of dollars into California education and healthcare every single year through those propositions without charging California citizens a dime. And do I believe I can continue to do that? I know I can.

448.192 - 473.941 Tom Steyer

One of the things I'm saying I'll do is I will close the corporate real estate tax loophole in California that's been on the books for 50 years and no one wants to take it on. No one's been able to pass it, which is true of all the other props I did. What does that look like? It looks like 10 to $15 billion a year, closing a loophole that makes no sense, that has no justification.

Chapter 4: What is Tom Steyer's stance on corporate taxes and loopholes?

500.627 - 522.067 Tom Steyer

And the easiest way to do it that I can do is to take on the special interests and close the loopholes they're using to rip off California families. That's what I'm going to do. And that's why I'm different because I don't owe those people one darn thing. I can attack the corporate real estate loophole because real estate developers have never given me a nickel and I don't care.

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522.508 - 543.358 Tom Steyer

I don't owe them anything. I can absolutely do what's right for the California people. Just the way I didn't know the tobacco companies anything or the oil companies, I'm willing to take on the entrenched interest in Sacramento to shake it up so that in fact, this can be the state where all of the success of the state that I love is shared with everybody across the state.

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544.385 - 552.695 Ben Meiselas

You know, my friend and a very strong leader in the House of Representatives, Ro Khanna, gave you an endorsement and a shout out. Here's what he said about you.

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552.715 - 577.127 Ben Meiselas

He said, Tom Steyer is for taxing billionaires like himself, for getting corporate money out of California, for passing single payer like Medicare for all and CalCare, for holding big polluters accountable and safeguarding California's against extreme weather. Let's talk about The health care plan, especially right now, is the Affordable Care Act subsidies are set to expire December 31st.

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578.229 - 591.688 Ben Meiselas

By and large, you know, people prefer Obamacare to what they had before. But that doesn't mean that they love it. And it clearly is already too expensive without the subsidies.

591.668 - 613.558 Ben Meiselas

i mean i think we saw that the uh exchange purchases right now of affordable care act plans down like 33 percent right now or potentially even more so what what would be your plan to fix it and does it look like a medicare for all planning or a single bed in the short run look we're a revenue challenge state

613.825 - 636.171 Tom Steyer

And Donald Trump's bill is a direct attack on working Californians. He's talking about throwing one to three million Californians off the Medicaid rolls. Of course, the ACA premiums are going up really dramatically, which is why the participation is down so much. He's also talking about taking away food benefits from hundreds of thousands of Californians.

636.151 - 658.885 Tom Steyer

In the short run, we've got to meet that revenue challenge, which is why I'm proposing to go after that corporate real estate loophole and close it and direct that money to the localities in terms of education and health. Longer term, what Roe is referring to is, look, we're getting run over by the increasing costs of health care.

660.805 - 674.303 Tom Steyer

As an investor, I always knew compounding is magic, that when things grow and keep growing, it compounds and it gets to a place which if it's an investment, it's really good. Our problem is that's what's happening in terms of our healthcare costs.

Chapter 5: How does Tom Steyer plan to address California's utility costs?

779.177 - 803.701 Tom Steyer

Didn't happen. The truth is I was wrong. And when I look at the data and see I'm wrong, it's like, okay, I change. And so I give Bernie Sanders a ton of credit for being right. And it's like, okay, 20 years ago, I didn't realize that climate change was a real problem. But when I looked at the data and visited it and heard it and understood it, I was like, OK, got to deal with it.

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804.221 - 821.779 Tom Steyer

Same thing with health care. I was wrong. I've changed. We're going to have to solve it. And we're going to have to solve it by getting into the details and understanding it. And that's something, look, we can see that this administration and Donald Trump are never going to be willing to do their homework and understanding health care.

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821.759 - 849.407 Tom Steyer

And I can tell you, I'm a results oriented person who is data driven. And that's why I changed. I looked at the data. We need to bring this under control. We're on an unsustainable path. That means structural change. I am willing to do structural change there. We have the second highest electricity costs in the country. We also have, it's delivered through enforceable legal monopolies.

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849.868 - 871.498 Tom Steyer

We have to introduce competition into that system because monopolies always produce the worst service at the highest cost because they're a monopoly. And if you don't like it, you don't have a choice. I am willing to make the structural changes that are necessary. I'm willing to attack the special interests who are ripping off Californians.

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871.939 - 894.082 Tom Steyer

I don't think the people who work at utilities are bad people. I think structurally they're doing the job they think they're hired to do, which is deliver returns to their shareholders. Okay. My job is to stand up for working Californian families at every single instance. And that's my only job. And that means I'm going to change things that need to be changed at a structural level.

894.463 - 901.193 Tom Steyer

As someone who's an outsider and who succeeded in changing things from the outside, as governor, I will do that every single day.

901.679 - 919.907 Ben Meiselas

You know, one of the things that a governor of California is going to have to do is it's going to have to stand up to Trump and these MAGA Republicans who I think Governor Newsom rightfully diagnosed the problem of California derangement syndrome that despite California being the fourth largest economy in the world,

919.887 - 941.237 Ben Meiselas

if it was a country it's constantly under attack and being used as the heel or the foil and everything that maga says to the rest of the country so one of the ways we're seeing then we'll let's get into this one of the ways we're seeing that is trump sending ice gestapo border patrol agents to to terrorize the communities here as the governor how would you handle

941.217 - 965.217 Ben Meiselas

what trump's been doing to places like los angeles and elsewhere um sending national guard in and sending ice agents in to harass and terrorize people would you do something differently than governor newsom would you do you like his approach how would you handle it look i give gavin newsom a lot of credit for standing up to trump and to going online and to dealing with them every day and to trying to protect californians

Chapter 6: What strategies does Tom Steyer suggest for improving education funding?

985.092 - 1009.294 Tom Steyer

because we need we cannot let him use the means of democracy to destroy our democracy and so of course i will stand up every single day as aggressively as i possibly can legally and also in the attention economy to expose him for what he is which is someone who's trying to invade his own country okay but there's something else going on here that i think is really important

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1010.624 - 1027.62 Tom Steyer

He has stupid policies. The kinds of things that he's talking about that you were talking about today, we want to have 1950s cars. That's our answer in the 21st century. We're depending on the oil business to lead the United States of America. Incredibly stupid.

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1028.26 - 1046.166 Tom Steyer

And I think it's really important as the governor of California, yes, to play three-dimensional chess really aggressively to oppose him when he does all the things to attack California. But more than that, we have to be willing to go toe to toe on the numbers because this is a failed president.

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1046.607 - 1064.657 Tom Steyer

He is somebody who runs his mouth but knows virtually nothing about the real economy when he says that affordability is a scam. That means he's completely out of touch with the people, but he's also completely out of touch with the way business works and how his economy works.

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1064.677 - 1085.856 Tom Steyer

And we need somebody who really understands business and the economy and how to put people to work and how do things work for working families to take him on to show there's a better way. We need to deal with our affordability crisis for darn sure and make sure that working families are taken care of. But we need to also make the point we have a different system.

1086.055 - 1110.468 Tom Steyer

We have a system that includes everybody. And we have a system that's succeeding and competing on a world level. And that's something he can't show that he can't understand. We need to have somebody who, and let me just make a quick point here, Ben, just as an example. Okay, he thinks drill, baby, drill. Okay, that's his plan. Oil in West Texas is under $60 a barrel.

1111.029 - 1133.764 Tom Steyer

The United States produces 13 and a half million barrels a day, which is a combination of Saudi Arabia and Russia combined. Our lifting costs for oil is over $60 a barrel. So when he talks about this is our big chance to build an economy, actually the Saudis at listing cost is probably 12 bucks.

1133.913 - 1159.984 Tom Steyer

We're the high cost producer in a commodity that's challenged, that is not the future of the United States. When we look around the world about what the 21st century looks like, it doesn't look one bit like a 1950s gas guzzling station wagon. It looks an awful lot like really inexpensive, really fantastic software enables electric vehicles. That's where the world is going.

1160.305 - 1183.758 Tom Steyer

That's where the competition is. And as he lives in this delusional world of returning to the 1950s, the United States and California have to lead the way in terms of what's changing, in terms of leading that change, because that's what produces great jobs. That's what produces the kind of companies that come here to grow and explode here and drive our economy forward.

Chapter 7: How does Tom Steyer differentiate his campaign from other candidates?

1268.031 - 1278.745 Ben Meiselas

So I just wonder from your perspective as a business person, who arose out of the hedge fund space. As you see Trump's approach to that, you must have strong opinions.

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1279.526 - 1301.215 Tom Steyer

Well, before I go into Donald Trump specifically, let me say what the Chinese call Donald Trump. They call him the nation builder and the nation they're referring to is their own. They view him as the weakest possible opponent, the person who is letting them move to the front of the pack in the world. And

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1302.106 - 1330.612 Tom Steyer

Look, what we've seen with Donald Trump is exactly what you see with every bully in the world. They only respond to force, to power, to strength. And the Chinese are showing strength and he folds. And that's exactly, you know, if you're nice to bullies, if you appease bullies, they think you're soft. They think you're weak and they take more.

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1330.632 - 1353.866 Tom Steyer

The only thing that they respond to is strength because at their core, they're weak and scared. So there's no question here. California is the fourth biggest economy in the world. We lead the world and we compete successfully around the world. We need to stand up for ourselves every single day as strongly as we possibly can. He is a failed business person.

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1353.886 - 1372.233 Tom Steyer

He's a guy who inherited all, peck a month. He is also a very talented communicator. Let's give the devil his due. He is very good at talking. In the attention economy, he is very good. Unfortunately, He's completely divorced from the real economy.

1372.793 - 1401.258 Tom Steyer

And it's critical for California, for the citizens of California, for the working families of California, that we have a governor who lives in the real economy and delivers results the way I've delivered results over the last 15 years. I left my business to give back to California. I've done that for 15 years. The real question here is, do you understand deeply the numbers?

1401.338 - 1422.01 Tom Steyer

Because there's a real thing going on here. We don't have enough optimism and hope around this country and in this state. And people think that hope is something that descends from on high. It is not. The reason I'm optimistic is I'm willing to get into the details and study them and figure out how to get to a good place.

1422.611 - 1451.767 Tom Steyer

And hope is something that is forged, that is built through work and struggle and attention to detail. And that's why I'm so optimistic about California. meeting this affordability challenge, solving this affordability challenge, but more than that, creating a new model for success in the United States. We are this state that creates the future, but that future has to include everybody.

1451.787 - 1464.913 Tom Steyer

It has to include every working person, every family here, not just millionaires, billionaires, and trillionaires. This is a state that succeeds, but we succeed together and we are data-driven.

Chapter 8: What are Tom Steyer's final thoughts on his vision for California?

1465.294 - 1471.925 Tom Steyer

We are hardworking. We pay attention to detail and we succeed. That's why I want to be governor.

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1471.945 - 1481.34 Ben Meiselas

Tom, where can people learn more about the campaign and anything else you want to say before we head out? Look, I want, I would love people go to tomspire.com.

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1482.141 - 1502.044 Tom Steyer

I would love people to know try and understand where i'm really coming from and who look to me i have a love affair with california because i love california people that's the truth that's why i'm running for governor i think we're in a crisis where california citizens are not being well treated by their government that's the truth

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1503.172 - 1529.377 Tom Steyer

I want people to understand who I am, how passionate I am to win that fight for them. But I'm also passionate to represent what we do as a state and how successful we are, how competitive we are, and a story of a different vision of how we go forward into the 21st century. I think it's absolutely critical that that happened. I want to do it. I'm determined to do it.

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1529.497 - 1531.879 Tom Steyer

And I'm passionate about doing that job.

1532.483 - 1547.902 Ben Meiselas

Tom Steyer, Democratic candidate for governor of California. Thanks so much for joining us, Tom. Ben, thank you very much for having me. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. Want to stay plugged in? Become a subscriber to our sub stack at MidasPlus.com.

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