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The MeidasTouch Podcast

World Leaders Block Trump from Peace Talks

25 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: Why are world leaders excluding Trump from Middle East peace talks?

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57.49 - 89.197 Ben Meiselas

message and data rates may apply furious world leaders are kicking donald trump out finally for good world leaders are saying stay the hell away from future discussions regarding regional security in the middle east Go and negotiate your surrender document with Iran, Donald, Rubio, Vance, and stay the hell away from what will be happening in the future of the Middle East.

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Saudi Arabia refusing to meet with Marco Rubio when Rubio has taken this trip. to the Middle East in order to try to beg the Middle East countries like the UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, and others to keep American military bases in the region. MBS, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, didn't even want to be photographed or meet with Marco Rubio, which is notable.

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because Saudi Arabia is usually the first destination when Rubio or Donald Trump heads to the Middle East. Instead, what's taking place? Well, Qatar has announced that there will be reconciliation discussions with Iran that will be taking place soon. Iran and the Gulf Cooperation Council in order to mend relationships

145.831 - 171.096 Ben Meiselas

and develop a new security architecture for the region since the United States security umbrella has utterly failed. You have key business leaders and political leaders, even in the UAE, saying we were betrayed by the Trump regime. As noted, MBS and the Saudi Arabia officials don't even want to meet with the United States.

171.076 - 194.274 Ben Meiselas

The Trump regime is sending a very panicked Marco Rubio to the region to try to beg, as I noted, to keep American military bases there, and it is not going well. Rubio continues to misrepresent the terms that are within the memorandum of understanding. Iran realizes exactly what Rubio was trying to do.

194.314 - 221.792 Ben Meiselas

Rubio was trying to undermine a meeting that is now set to take place between the Gulf Cooperation Council countries and Iran. And Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson has called out the United States yet again for their antics. And earlier yesterday, Foreign Minister Araghchi of Iran spoke with his counterpart, the Foreign Minister Al Saad of Saudi Arabia.

Chapter 2: What role does Marco Rubio play in the Middle East negotiations?

417.907 - 446.698 Ben Meiselas

Israel is referring to it as. In addition, you had a number of developments as well. As Babak Vadad explains, in my view, the emerging regional order will increasingly revolve around strategic mutual defense arrangements between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia that Tehran appears to have viewed with interest, plus other members of the Islamabad Quartet, Egypt,

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Turkey with Qatar, Oman and these other Gulf cooperation council states. And that's why Rubio was going to the UAE to try to undermine what was going on there and the progress being made there. Now, Here in the United States, you had Treasury Secretary Scott Besant referring to the spokesperson from Iran and the messaging coming out of Iran.

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Besant goes, remember how people talked about Baghdad Bob? Well, now we have Tehran Tim, and they're out there just making up lies about what the real deal is between the United States and Iran. And this is why the United States has zero credibility in the region and in the world right now, because we all can actually read what's in the memorandum of understanding.

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Treasury Secretary Besant is Baghdad Besant. Donald Trump is way more foolish than Baghdad Bob. This is what the United States has become. Here's what Besant had to say. Let's play this clip.

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515.267 - 526.602 Scott Bessant

So when you hear the Iranians, maybe it's the IRGC, with this public relations, saying the IAEA inspector's not coming, the Strait of Hormuz is closed, all of these things day to day,

526.582 - 553.956 Scott Bessant

get picked up yeah just what amazes me it's the same people a lot of the hawks in the u.s who say you can't believe anything the iranians say unless they say it about the negotiations right like believe them for the negotiations remember baghdad bob sure from iraq it's kind of taran tim right like it's just a lot of big talk and um let's just see how this cooks out but i'm optimistic

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Chapter 3: How is Saudi Arabia shifting its diplomatic strategy with Iran?

769.143 - 784.981 Marco Rubio

And we mean open the straits. We mean open the straits free in international waterways. So we'll express that tomorrow. I am certain that not only will every country in the Gulf region be supportive, probably with the exception of Iran, but all the GCC members will be supportive, but the whole world will be supportive.

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785.001 - 794.071 Marco Rubio

I know of no country on the planet that supports tolling or a fee for the use of the straits. That's not going to happen.

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794.211 - 816.389 Ben Meiselas

The President has been abundantly clear. And then Rubio also in his meeting with the press after meeting with the UAE and Kuwait, Rubio almost acts like there's no deal. He's like, well, you know, we're working through these terms and, you know, we're going to have to, you know, ensure that if Iran doesn't do the deal with us, we're going to have a lot of options at our disposal.

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816.409 - 836.681 Ben Meiselas

What are you talking about, Rubio? There's an MOU that we can all read. Those terms now have to be implemented in a long form agreement, but this is why Rubio has, and the Trump regime has zero credibility and why these Middle East countries are developing a security architecture without the United States. Let's play this clip of Rubio.

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837.743 - 861.715 Marco Rubio

Has continued to threaten to bomb around, excuse me, if it doesn't comply with some of its requirements in these negotiations. Is that sort of, in any way, should reform complicating these negotiations? No. No. What the president has stated is very clear. We expect them to keep their, they want to get into a negotiation, we'll do a negotiation.

861.735 - 870.808 Marco Rubio

If they make commitments that they're going to a negotiation, they need to keep them. If they don't keep them, the president has multiple options at his disposal. That includes sanctions, it includes other things. So I think the president's been clear. If we're going to get a deal, it has to be a real deal and it has to be a good deal.

870.828 - 885.918 Marco Rubio

If Iran wants to make a good and real deal, the United States is open to that. If they're not, then of course the President has options. We want this to work out. We hope it works out. But if it doesn't, the President knows what his options are and I'm not, you know... That's all I'll say about it right now.

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The Washington Post reports the following. Rocked by the Iran war, the UAE sours on Trump. We got played. Across the Persian Gulf region, Trump was once viewed as a pro-business ally, but his decision to wage war in Iran and his erratic conduct have tarnished his image. And as I've said, in the Middle East, they've clinically diagnosed Donald Trump as psychotic.

909.965 - 938.189 Ben Meiselas

not hyperbolic, like actually he's a psychotic human. We all know this. We didn't need a clinical diagnosis. I mean, I'm giving you my opinion, of course, but he's not a rational actor, duh. This article goes on to talk about how Lots of business leaders in the UAE basically say, you know, he constantly changes position. I had high hopes. We got played. He claimed to be a no war president.

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