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Wow! Trump Arrest of Judge Blows Up in His Face

Thu, 01 May 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas and Taking Feds host Harry Litman report on why the Trump DOJ / FBI arrest of Milwaukee Judge Hannah Dugan will very quickly backfire on Trump like most of his stunts. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What happened in the FBI arrest of Milwaukee Judge Hannah Dugan?

0.209 - 34.314 Ben Meiselas

the fbi arresting a state court judge alleging that a state court judge obstructed an immigration arrest operation that the feds wanted to do inside the judge's courtroom which the fbi had then announced on twitter now x in which the attorney general then posted on Twitter, now X, it's a sentence that would be unfathomable, Harry Littman, in normal times.

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35.394 - 67.022 Ben Meiselas

The very idea that the FBI would be kind of lurking outside of a state court judge's courtroom to try to do an infiltration operation against In a criminal proceeding that a judge was presiding over, this happened just to remind everybody what I'm talking about. Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge Hannah Dugan presiding over her daily docket last week.

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67.483 - 84.615 Ben Meiselas

It was a case before her involving an alleged domestic violence incident. And, you know, these judges go through lots of cases. It's not just one case usually on the day. And they go through their full docket of criminal cases. The feds, the FBI, they want to go into the courtroom.

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85.135 - 108.106 Ben Meiselas

And for a state court judge in our system of federalism, I've never heard of without coordination or anything like sting operations taking place in state court judges' courtroom. The allegations, if you just accept all the allegations basically being said by the FBI and DOJ as true, the feds last week, they want to get into the courtroom.

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108.566 - 124.431 Ben Meiselas

Judge Dugan basically has this individual who's there, Eduardo Flores Ruiz, who ICE and the feds want to detain. And the judge accepting all the allegations as true, which we don't necessarily know is the case from the feds and the DOJ,

125.131 - 151.357 Ben Meiselas

The judge then basically says to the individual, you know, you can go out the back door or, you know, here's here's where you can go, because my courtroom is not going to be used for operations without my knowledge and consent. And then on that basis, that happened last week on Friday. The FBI is basically what shows up during her Friday docket. And like like this.

152.097 - 168.038 Ben Meiselas

arrests her, cuffs her, and throws her in jail. Then the head of the FBI, Kash Patel, announces it on social media. Pam Bondi announces it on social media. And this seems to be one of these issues that the

169.039 - 195.468 Ben Meiselas

performative doj fbi want to say this guy was a bad guy domestic violence look at his background who would ever want this guy this judge was trying to help someone who beats his wife i mean really this is a judge who does that so they're they're doing that thing to try to divide public opinion on this issue harry wright and make it seem like how could you defend this judge doing it but what they really want to do here

195.908 - 220.656 Ben Meiselas

is trample my view on federalism states rights federal rights and start doing sting operations in state courts and i'll toss it to you harry the one of the big issues that concerns me is that this guy who's charged with domestic violence he showed up to court and if the judge would have made the finding that he did it he probably would have gone to jail for that how many people now

Chapter 2: Why is the arrest of Judge Dugan controversial in terms of federalism?

772.757 - 796.349 Ben Meiselas

But then it's just one of those things that then becomes a death by a thousand blows and the holes get poked in it. And then they end up losing. And the Trump administration looks losing. And they just look weak. And it's pathetic looking. And it's just – it's not a good – I'm not trying to help them out. I just – it bugs me to see a bunch of losers running this thing. I'm like –

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797.349 - 801.311 Ben Meiselas

Such a loser, lowbrow, like, ugh, move. Five more seconds.

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801.872 - 810.657 Harry Litman

I want to give you two numbers. 90, the number of days he served. 108 now, the number of preliminary injunctions the courts have entered against his moves.

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811.097 - 836.528 Ben Meiselas

And a lot of them Reagan appointees, George W. Bush appointees, Trump appointees. Yes, some Democratic appointees, but on balance, not a drastic difference of Democrat versus Republican judges. Anyway. Harry, Talking Feds YouTube, Talking Feds Substack, Talking Feds Podcast, everybody, subscribe to all of those. Just search Talking Feds. Hit subscribe. It's where I get my legal news from.

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836.868 - 838.508 Ben Meiselas

Thanks, Harry. Thank you, Ben.

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