Today, you are getting research-backed strategies for handling difficult people. In this episode, you will dive deep into how to respond to disrespect, gaslighting, and exactly what to say when someone tries to brush off their behavior with, “I was just joking.” You and Mel are both learning from trial lawyer Jefferson Fisher, who is known for his straightforward advice, tips, and tricks on how to communicate better. Jefferson is here to teach you exactly what to say (and what not to say) when you're dealing with a difficult person: If you’re tired of being talked over, dismissed, or made to feel less than, it’s time to learn the techniques that will help you walk into any conversation with confidence—and walk away with your power intact. You’ll learn how to:Stand up for yourself without being unlikable.Handle disrespect without losing your cool.Stop arguments before they start.Set boundaries without feeling guiltyReclaim your confidence in secondsHandle fake apologies and toxic conversations like a proAfter today, you’ll have the exact tools to protect your peace, reclaim your confidence, and navigate any difficult conversation with ease. For more resources, click here for the podcast episode page. If you enjoyed this episode, and want to know more about how to protect your energy and happiness, listen to this one next: The 7-Day Reset for More Time, Energy & Happiness (Backed by Science)Listen to Jefferson’s first appearance on The Mel Robbins Podcast here: Communicate with Confidence: The Blueprint for Mastering Every ConversationConnect with Mel: Get Mel’s #1 bestselling book, The Let Them TheoryWatch the episodes on YouTubeFollow Mel on Instagram The Mel Robbins Podcast InstagramMel's TikTok Sign up for Mel’s personal letter Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to ad-free new episodes Disclaimer
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Hey, it's your friend Mel, and welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast. Have you ever walked away from a conversation or a meeting at work and felt smaller? Like somehow after the conversation, you realize, wow, my confidence just got chipped away a little. And as you think about what just happened, Maybe you realize someone interrupted you or corrected you or dismissed what you had to say.
You know, there's this one person in my life who literally rolls their eyes as I'm talking and they think that I can't see it, but I can see you at the end of the table rolling your eyes as I'm trying to say something. Or have you ever gotten one of those apologies where someone was like, I'm sorry, that's how you feel. And you think, wait a minute, was that actually an apology?
No, that wasn't an apology. That was belittlement. And today, trial lawyer Jefferson Fisher is here in our Boston studios, and you and I are going to dive deep into how to respond to disrespect, to gaslighting, and exactly what to do when someone says, I was just joking. One takeaway at a time.
You're not only going to learn exactly what to say, but also how your words or using silence help you reclaim your confidence, your voice, and stand your ground. Hey, it's Mel. I am so excited that you're here. It is always such an honor to spend time with you and to be together. And if you're brand new, welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast family.
I also want to take a moment and acknowledge you for taking time to listen to something that could truly help you live a better life. And I love what you and I are going to be talking about on today's episode, because we're going to get to spend some time today with the incredible trial lawyer, Jefferson Fisher.
I wouldn't be surprised if you've actually seen him online because every single day, millions of people watch the videos that Jefferson makes from the front seat of his car in between his court cases and meetings with his clients. Jefferson's strategies for handling belittlement, gaslighting, fake apologies, toxic behavior, and difficult conversations are game changers. Boom. He is so good.
I'm so excited. So let's get into it. Jefferson Fisher, I am so thrilled you're back on the Mel Robbins podcast.
Thank you for having me.
And congratulations on your new book, The Next Conversation, Argue Less, Talk More.
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