the morning shakeout podcast

Re-run with Sanjay Rawal

20 Sep 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“It’s really inspiring to see someone push themselves and challenge themselves…Bringing out the achievements of people who are fighting the odds...

Episode 174 | Jon Green

13 Sep 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“My goal with coaching people is to teach them and have them understand why we’re doing what we’re doing so if I ever stop coaching them, or for...

Episode 173 | Sabrina Little

06 Sep 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“So in the classical tradition they often ask the question of what role athletics can play in the good life. And typically the way it is described i...

Episode 172 | Brad Stulberg

31 Aug 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“So much of groundedness is about building a life that you want to live in right now and those things are often in opposition to striving, because w...

Re-Run with Mario Mendoza

23 Aug 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I think for me it ties back to seeing myself as more than just a runner but [as] a complete person in mind, body, soul. I’ve just found that when...

Crossover Episode: Mario Fraioli on the Grounded Podcast with Dinée Dorame

16 Aug 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“The hardest step in anything is to start—that’s the hardest step. The second hardest thing is to stay with it. That sounds really obvious but I...

Episode 171 | Ask Mario Anything #7

10 Aug 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“A lot of athletes—especially when things are going really well—the last thing they want to do is take a break, even if their goal race is in th...

Episode 170 | Noah Droddy

02 Aug 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I think it’s because we’re always measuring ourselves—everything we do is measured. You go out for an easy run, you see your pace, you compar...

Episode 169 | Fred Huxham

27 Jul 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“If you get me talking about things that happened in college or I think about races in college I can just spiral in my own head and get frustrated a...

Episode 168 | Alison Desir

20 Jul 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“What the marathon experience—that first marathon experience—did for me, was it gave me a perspective shift on life, which, wow, that sounds rea...

Episode 167 | Amby Burfoot

13 Jul 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“One day we had a bad basketball practice. The coach was pissed off at us. He literally made us run the cross-country course as punishment. I was th...

Episode 166 | Christine Gould

06 Jul 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“When I was out there, baking along the lake where it was really hot, all I was really trying to do was just keep moving forward, and whatever that ...

Episode 165 | Mark Coogan

15 Jun 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“It's not just one workout that's going to make you have a good race. That's pretty simple. I've more come to the conclusion that I'd rather do 20 B...

Episode 164 | Lauren Hurley

07 Jun 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“When I was doing triathlon I would get a workout and I’m like, ‘Oh, I can’t do that. That’s too hard. No way.’ Now Tom tells me this work...

Episode 163 | Thomas Reiss

31 May 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“Running has been a big factor in my life. Running made me start my own business, I met my wife because of running—that’s how I ended up here. S...

Episode 162 | Abdi Abdirahman

24 May 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“People know me as Abdi the distance runner, the funny guy, just outgoing, and that's all good, but they don't know the reason I came to the U.S.—...

Episode 161 | Aaron and Joshua Potts

18 May 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“What we're doing, it's for the culture. It's not ultimately about trying to get money. We want to push the track and field culture forward. We want...

Episode 160 | Stephanie Howe and Jorge Maravilla

11 May 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“All of this adversity that we've been dealing with, you know, adversity is nothing new to me. I'm officially claiming that I'm the dean of Adversit...

Episode 159 | Anthony Costales

04 May 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“Over the last years, the main thing to me when I get into a race, I think what kind of changed my trajectory at least in the road stuff, was that I...

Episode 158 | Hillary Allen

26 Apr 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I don’t shy away from the hard stuff anymore. I know I enjoy hard things from a training perspective, [and] like super-challenging races, but tha...

Episode 157 | Ask Mario Anything

19 Apr 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“When I talk to the athletes that I coach, the number one thing that I'm trying to pay attention to throughout the course of our relationship is se...

Episode 156 | Steve Magness

13 Apr 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“Most of my life was spent chasing times, mainly because I ran really fast in high school—a 4:01 as you mentioned—and when you un 4:01, you know...

Episode 155 | Kyle Merber

06 Apr 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“Every single day for the last 15 years of my life I had a goal and I was able to tangibly work towards it day in and day out and all of my decision...

Episode 154 | Andrew Bumbalough

29 Mar 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“You just run so much when you’re training for the marathon that if you don’t truly love it, you won’t really enjoy it. I think for most of my...

Episode 153 | Shalane Flanagan

23 Mar 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I’m hoping that my position with Bowerman and what I’m doing is just the beginning of a whole bunch of other women getting into coaching—and ...

Episode 152 | Darcy Budworth

15 Mar 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I think I’m somebody where I grew up in a family of many people, a large family—and then also I grew up Morman, and so I grew up around many fa...

Episode 151 | Hawi Keflezighi

09 Mar 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I would work around the clock, weekends, because I was passionate, and that's one thing I say to anyone that's passionate about what they do: make ...

Episode 150 | Jenna Wrieden

02 Mar 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I think I just learned over time that I have to be able to trust my own instincts and portray whatever I’m saying to an athlete with complete con...

Episode 149 | Keith Kelly

23 Feb 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I don’t know where the desire to win comes from other than the desire to just feel like I’ve done my best and to know that when it’s all said...

Episode 148 | Colin Bennie

16 Feb 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“There were definitely a number of times where I found myself just trying to analyze every single aspect of what I was doing different from the year...

Episode 147 | Rajpaul Pannu

08 Feb 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“Running, for me, is an act of a rebellion. There’s subtext in which if there’s a BIPOC person on the starting line and you see a picture of the...

Episode 146 | Nathan Martin

01 Feb 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I like pushing myself and that's one thing about running, too: You can argue, there's not a crazy amount of technical stuff—like when you get int...

Episode 145 | Dinée Dorame

26 Jan 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I really try to reflect on why I love running in the first place and really—I’m not trying to be cheesy and fluffy about it—I really love the...

Episode 144 | Craig Curley

19 Jan 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I’m responsible for my life and what I want to do in this world. And whatever silly thing that I am good at, I’m going to pursue it and not loo...

Episode 143 | Frank Lara

11 Jan 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“I think at Furman I ended up doing a lot on my own, just thinking, ‘Oh, I have to do all this stuff to be good.’ So I ended up overdoing a lot ...

Episode 142 | Alexi Pappas

05 Jan 2021

Contributed by Lukas

“If we don’t know what the most important thing to do in a day is, or in a moment, then we will become more like leaves, blowing with every breeze...

Episode 141 | Best of 2020

29 Dec 2020

Contributed by Lukas

This week’s episode of the podcast—the last one for 2020—is a “best of” compilation of highlights from 12 of the most impactful conversation...

Episode 140 | Alex Hutchinson

21 Dec 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“It’s not just like you can have a bad race because you get too nervous. No. The very essence of, in the middle of a race, you’re asking yoursel...

Episode 139 | Knox Robinson

15 Dec 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I started to wonder decades later if running for me was the first time that I had ever had facts ascribed to my name. And I wonder if being lied ab...

Episode 138 | Chris Miltenberg

07 Dec 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“If you’re going to be a good coach, you have to believe you’re really good, right? You have to balance humility with confidence. You have to be...

Episode 137 | Ask Mario Anything #5

01 Dec 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I think you should ditch worrying about your heart rate and just go by feel. Easy is a feeling, it is not a number. Sometimes you need parameters i...

Episode 136 | Jae Gruenke

23 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“What I love about running, and what I love even more about running than I ever loved about dancing, is how human it is. It’s a fundamental human ...

Episode 135 | Diljeet Taylor

17 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“There’s things we take for granted, as athletes, as coaches, and have those things taken away from you, you really just realize how much they mea...

Episode 134 | Matt Hart

09 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“If the book tells you anything it’s just that there’s this long history from go of this kind of behavior, whether it’s sexist behavior or out...

Episode 133 | Carolyn Su

03 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“By nature, diversity is uncomfortable, at least initially, right? Until we can embrace and accept the discomfort of having someone with a different...

Episode 132 | Marquis Bowden

26 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Where’s that work ethic come from? “For sure my grandmother, and I think growing up without a mom and a dad. You know, nothing was ever handed [to...

Episode 131 | Gary Towne

19 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“What we do on the daily basis to have success in our sport sets you up so well for what you’re going to be doing in the real world. But just the ...

Episode 130 | Elle Purrier

13 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Yeah, I’ve had moments of like, ‘Wow, this is really happening.’ And so that’s pretty cool because I think it’s really important to enjo...

Episode 129 | Kilian Jornet

05 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I think that’s probably what my mother said about being self-destructive: that I go until it breaks. I probably could start to find this balance ...

Episode 128 | Brett Bartholomew

29 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"You gotta go do it. Lean into the unknown. We have this term, especially when I work with football players, called contact adaptation. There’s a re...

Episode 127 | Matt Chittim

21 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“It got to the point where I was looking in the metaphorical mirror and saying to myself, ‘Alright, what am I going to do here? You’re sacrifici...

Episode 126 | Brenda Martinez

15 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I think over the years I started to realize it’s more than just running. There is more to life than just running. Obviously it’s a big part of ...

Episode 125 | Marcus Brown

07 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Running isn’t always comfortable. It’s not always like some sort of nirvana that you’re jumping out of bed and clicking your heels to do. But...

Episode 124 | Mike Rouse

10 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I’ve said this many, many times. I’m 67 years old. I got busted when I was 33, got out of prison when I was 34. I spent the first 33 years of m...

Episode 123 | Sara Hall

04 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“It’s kind of like what you pay attention to grows. What you’re the most aware of—if you’re focused on an area where you’re not measuring ...

Episode 122 | David Bracetty

27 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“It was sort of like this coolness of everyone telling you [that] you can be awesome and you’re not aware of it yet, but you’re starting to beli...

Episode 121 | Ask Mario Anything #4

20 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Running to me represents freedom and I don’t want to just confine myself to running to numbers, like trying to run to specific mileage on a given...

Episode 120 | Faith E. Briggs

13 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Who do we get to see? And therefore, who do we get to believe in? Not only to understand people better, but I think to understand for younger kids ...

Episode 119 | Devin Kelly

06 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“So many of my relationships with anything or anyone in life that I care about the most is a relationship of high highs and low lows. There’s some...

Episode 118 | Yassine Diboun

29 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“One of the main things too is people just kind of sticking out like a sore thumb. It’s so unbalanced that I think people of color sometimes feel ...

Episode 117 | Andy Blow

22 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I definitely don’t have any regrets in pursuing sport to the level that I did because I think one of the wonderful things about sport is that it’...

Episode 116 | Kamilah Journét

15 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“While it’s terrible that it took murder for many runners to wake up to the social injustices that we face in America, I’m excited that it ignit...

Episode 115 | Karen Boen

09 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“We really bought in—and I really bought in. Like, I really believed that we could be good, I really, truly believed that, and I got them to belie...

Episode 114 | Mary Cain

01 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I have a lot of goals in running and I have a lot of dreams in running but I feel like I love to run—period, end of sentence. And if that is kind...

Episode 113 | Kate Landau

26 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I did not enjoy the recognition. I would literally hide from newspaper reporters after races. But I was competitive and I wanted to win and I wante...

Episode 112 | Nick Willis

18 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“It’s harder to stay as focused and motivated when I haven’t been running up to the standards that I’ve always set so high for myself. I haven...

Episode 111 | Michelle La Sala

12 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I’m in a position where I cannot be afraid. What I do for a living, my life, my career, I have to get out there and be among the people. And if I...

Episode 110 | Erin Finn

04 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Just having a group of people who accepted me unconditionally, who I knew had also been through hard times, who would be there for me, getting conn...

Episode 109 | Mike Smith

27 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“When I look at an athlete, the way I see an athlete, how they see themselves, how they feel about themselves, where they are in their lives, that’...

Episode 108 | Nate Jenkins

20 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I honestly was hobbling in and with each mile that went by I’m like, ‘I’m still in the top-10. That’s Uta Pippig who’s cheering on the si...

Episode 107 | Liam Boylan-Pett

14 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Patience is such a tough thing to have in life, the world, in running, but it is such an important thing to have. I mean, it’s just that stacking...

Episode 106 | Bria Wetsch

07 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Every time I line up I don’t get as anxious anymore, I don’t feel like I’m gonna barf. It’s just, ’See what you can do. You have two heal...

Episode 105 | Ali Feller

30 Mar 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Both disciplines attract that type of person, who can chase down specific goals, who is competitive, not necessarily with other people, but with th...

Episode 104 | Ask Mario Anything #3

24 Mar 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“For me, I actually like being in the corner with my back up against the wall because it forces me to figure a way out. And I’m not feeling that j...

Episode 103 | Jody Bailey

17 Mar 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I’m obsessed with everything I pick. Whatever it is, I don’t really question it. Most of the time, my obsessions, I don’t know what’s happe...

Episode 102 | Aliphine Tuliamuk

10 Mar 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“The day that Kobe Bryant passed away, something snapped in me. I realized how short life can be—and I never met him, and I didn’t even know him...

Episode 101 | Michael Olzinski

03 Mar 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I see coaching as an art form—and it’s the science [that] gives you the tools that you need—but just like we found out that you tie two strin...

Episode 100 | Laura Schmitt

25 Feb 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Coaching, I would argue, is the least about the workouts. In fact, if you’re a coach, you should have phenomenal workouts. You should have a prog...

Episode 99 | Lindsay Flanagan

18 Feb 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I think I’ve just learned that whether you’re running a 5-hour marathon, a 4-hour marathon, a 2-hour marathon, we all go through the same strug...

Episode 98 | Mike Fanelli

10 Feb 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“As long as I can come across the finish line—whatever chosen distance, and I’ve raced them all—knowing that I couldn’t possibly have run on...

Episode 97 | CJ Albertson

31 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"Obviously I’d love to be a world-class runner—like I’d love it, that’d be awesome—but I know there’s so much more in my life and so many ...

Episode 96 | Greg McMillan

23 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“It’s difficult for runners to communicate, ‘Why do you do this?’… ‘Do you want to be skinny?’ ‘Do you want to be healthy?’ It’s l...

Episode 95 | Fernando Cabada

13 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Running is something that I was always good at, something that I would do no matter what, it was always my little escape in some way. Whatever was ...

Episode 94 | Greg Billington

06 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I think it’s a release—it’s easier when you’re able to go all-in. If you have that second thing, that second chance, you have to constantly...

Episode 93 | Best of 2019

31 Dec 2019

Contributed by Lukas

This week’s episode of the podcast is a “greatest hits” compilation of sorts to round out 2019. I’ve gone through and culled clips from nine o...

Episode 92 | Peter Bromka

23 Dec 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“I am camped out in that third category of the emotions of the experience. I get a lot of messages from other dads who have jobs and have kids and h...

Episode 91 | Ken Rideout

17 Dec 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“Many times I’ve woken up and thought, ‘Oh, what can I do to get out of this? Can I fake an injury?’ And then I realize it’s just me. The on...

Episode 90 | Ask Mario Anything #2

10 Dec 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"The first thing I tell athletes who are injured is: Let’s focus on what you can do, not what you can’t. You can’t run, and oftentimes when we’...

Episode 89 | Jen Rhines

03 Dec 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“I think, for me, it’s just if I can help people along the way, that’s great. There isn’t any big thing that I hope to accomplish or be rememb...

Episode 88 | Coree Woltering

25 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“So, the cool thing is a lot of my friends in Boulder were trail runners, so they’re like, ‘Hey, maybe you should just try trail running. You do...

Episode 87 | Lindsay Crouse

19 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"One thing that has been really amazing about reporting on this industry is that I actually am really inspired by it and get really motivated by it an...

Episode 86 | Bryan Hill

12 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"Tapping into the side of you that has that internal drive is super important because discipline’s a really hard thing, right? Cadence and consisten...

Episode 85 | Mary Ngugi and Jared Ward

08 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“I had a breakthrough race in Boston and training for New York has been every bit as good as the training leading into Boston and even better in som...

Episode 84 | Corrine Malcolm

05 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“If you go into the race knowing it’s going to hurt and you’re OK with it, you’re stronger than most of the people out there—and I just latc...

Episode 83 | Christopher McDougall

28 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“Their phrase they have at the Bird-In-Hand Half Marathon is, ‘The joy of running in community,’ and it’s on all their t-shirts, it's on all t...

Episode 82 | Jesse Williams

21 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“Anybody that’s in this industry, especially somebody that was in my former position, you sit around all the time and complain about what’s wron...

Episode 81 | Steve Jones

14 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"That’s how my whole career, my whole running career went—it was always trying to beat the guy in front of me, always trying to catch the guy in f...

Episode 80 | Sally McRae

08 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“There was definitely a time in my life where I had to tell myself, ‘It’s OK to be broken.’ That’s OK. The goal in life isn’t to be perfec...

Episode 79 | Jonathan Pierce

30 Sep 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“That's the most dangerous place to be—is to think you know it all. I always just try to go into problems being curious. I’m always just like, ‘...

Episode 78 | Jeanne Mack

24 Sep 2019

Contributed by Lukas

“Why did it take me so long in order to decide that I needed to pull the plug on running? What was it that made me cling to the idea of running a li...