The Munk Debates Podcast
Trump sends in the National Guard (again) and Mark Carney goes to Washington
07 Oct 2025
Rudyard and Andrew react to the deployment of U.S. National Guard troops to American cities, specifically guards from red states being sent into blue states. This is a watershed moment, speeding up America's worrying slide into authoritarianism. Is it fair to separate Trump's ego-driven action from his handlers like Stephen Miller and Russell Vought who have more concrete designs on America? And what are the chances there will be free and fair elections in next year's midterms? Rudyard and Andrew then turn to Mark Carney's trip to Washington to meet with Donald Trump. The two leaders seem to have a reasonably good personal relationship. Why does Trump like Carney better than his predecessor? And what kind of trade overtures can Carney come home with that would be acceptable to the Canadian public?
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