The National Security Law Podcast
Activity Overview
Episode publication activity over the past year
Episodes
Episode 247: Deal, No Deal
07 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Hello friends, and welcome back to the NSL Podcast with Professor Vladeck and Dean Chesney. Tune in for a detailed discussion of the bizarre plea-de...
Episode 246: Around the Drain in 80 Days
20 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Betcha thought we were done...but we're back! Tune in as Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate the latest (ok, some of this stuff is mo...
Episode 245: 100 Days Later…
02 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Hello, is this thing on? Check one, check two...testing, testing. We're good? Alright alright alright... It's been 100 days between shows. ...
Episode 244: Not Our 30th Episode of 2023
23 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Barring an unlikely spate of more than a dozen episodes happening over the next week, it sure looks like Steve has won his bet with Bobby, for this ma...
Episode 243: Boiled Froggy Water Under the Bridge
28 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Two months between episodes? Looks like someone will be buying Steve a dinner at the conclusion of 2023 (barring a pivot to posting new episodes eve...
Episode 242: A Rule of Law (and Punctuation) Free Episode!
29 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Sorry about accidentally taking the whole month off, but we're back with a classic: tune in for the 9/11 case warm-up, and stick around for 45 minutes...
Episode 241: Let’s Barbie!
22 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Tune in for the latest, in which we discuss life as a fall 1L, RICO, removal, Nashiri, Bahlul, Shimari, Barbie, and Silo. And if all those names mean ...
Episode 240: Something Got Released
08 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
If you are interested in a detailed and careful explanation of the charges at issue in United States v. Trump (the recent indictment of the former p...
Episode 239: We Have Many Tapestries!
11 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Well, it's been about a month, so it's good we are finally back with a fresh episode! Tune in as hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney kick the tire...
Episode 238: The World Wonders
12 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode focuses on the indictment in United States v. Donald Trump and Waltine Nauta, S.D. Fla. (23-80101-CR). Co-hosts Steve Vladeck and B...
Episode 237: Are You Not Detained???
25 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
And we're back, with co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney breaking down the latest national security law news along with much else. This week th...
Episode 236: Damn the Torpedoes!
05 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Good morning! Episode 236 covers: The Trump Indictment The Biden Administration's Executive Order on Abusive Commercial Spyware A CENTCOM s...
Episode 235: A Drone Struck
16 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We're back with a Spring Break edition, featuring: ICC cases emerging against Russian defendants for (1) removing children from Ukraine to Russia...
Episode 234: Not *That* Linda Hamilton
23 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Are you ready for a DEEP DIVE? We've got an extended conversation today explaining the stakes and anticipating the outcomes in two cases argued in f...
Episode 233: This Episode Was (Not) Written by ChatGPT
14 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We are delighted this week to feature two Texas Law students -- Sam Libby and Alex Rigby -- who earned the chance to co-host the show with us thanks t...
Episode 232: Top Gun 3: Deflategate!
09 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
After a week with no electricity, Professors Vladeck and Chesney are back with the latest in national security law news. Tune in for discussions of:...
Episode 231: If You Go to Washington Don’t Crime There
24 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What's this, a one-week turnaround between shows? Will wonders never cease? In a throwback to the days of this being a weekly show, your co-hosts Bo...
Episode 230, Not Section 230
17 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Wouldn't want you to be misled by the episode number (though we do actually foreshadow some future Section 230 coverage in light of an upcoming pair o...
Episode 229: We Are Not Not Going to Post Weekly in 2023 Maybe
02 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Happy 2023 y'all! We are off to a quick start this year. Tune in as Professors Vladeck and Chesney discuss recent developments, including: Th...
Episode 228: Not *That* George Clinton!
13 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Holiday edition! Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss the rapid demise of the attempt by Donald Trump's lawyers to use Execut...
Episode 227: Maybe This Episode Should Pay to Get Verified
14 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Hello friends! We're back with a new episode. Tune in as Professor Steve Vladeck and Dean Bobby Chesney chat about (1) the fate of Twitter, (2) the ...
Episode 226: What Is a Court Anyway?
18 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
So, it's been a while...but we're back! And it's time to buy Steve's book on the Supreme Court's Shadow Docket: tinyurl.com/shadowdocket Meanwhil...
Episode 225: Appetite for Obstruction
01 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Hello, and welcome back to the National Security Law Podcast, with co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck! In this episode, we dig into the latest f...
Episode 224: Mar-a-Lag-o-Palooza
16 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
After just one week, incredibly, we are back! And we're joined by two of our fantastic Texas Law students. Ryan Brown and Adam Goodrum won the rig...
Episode 223: The Search for Episode 222!
09 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Well, the original idea was to have a short episode about the strike that killed al Zawahiri, and to recap the D.C. Circuit's Larabee ruling. But th...
Episode 221: GWOT Shots, Part Deux
28 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
And we're back, with yet another interminable window of extemporaneous frivolity at the front end of what otherwise is a somewhat serious show about t...
Episode 220: This Podcast Made the Kessel Run In Less than 12 Parsecs
07 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
And...we're back, and in less than a month, remarkably! Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss (1) the latest seditious conspir...
Episode 219: And the Podcast Host-Designate Is …
17 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Some of y'all were wondering if the show was done-for now that co-host Bobby Chesney has been named the next dean of the University of Texas School of...
Episode 218: From 28(j) to Enterprise-J
27 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Ok, ok, it's been a full month since the last episode. But good things come to those who wait! We are back, and hope you'll tune in as co-hosts Bo...
Episode 217: Talking With Matt Olsen About DOJ National Security Division
28 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
What a treat we have for you this week! Assistant Attorney General Matt Olsen, head of DOJ's National Security Division, sits down with co-hosts Bob...
Episode 216: This Podcast Does Not Constitute Legal Advice
08 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
And we're back! Tune in as Professors Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck discuss and debate: ICC jurisdiction over war crimes on Ukraine's territory...
Episode 215: Rhyming or Outright Repeating?
22 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
We are back with a fresh episode, hot on the heels of Russia's latest incursion into Ukraine. Tune in as we survey some of the legal dimensions to thi...
Episode 214: What Month Is This Anyway?
01 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
We are back, and even though one of us apparently cannot work this new tech called a "calendar," we're excited to bring a shorter-than-usual episode w...
Episode 213: Most Likely to Engage in a Seditious Conspiracy
20 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Seeing as how 2022 is well underway, it's probably about time we produced a new episode! Tune in for co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney as the...
Episode 212: Nakatomi Plaza Holiday Office Party Edition
17 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to our official Holiday Office Party, where we mainly just hope things will go smoother than they did for the good people of Nakatomi Corporat...
Episode 211: Behold, our Q4 episode
09 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Ah, well, that took a bit longer than expected! We promise we don't mean to let this become a quarterly show, or even a monthly. Too much national...
Episode 210: The Witness Who Became a Meme
06 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
What's that? A new episode? What have these guys been doing all month... Well, whatever they've been doing all September since Episode 209, Pro...
Episode 209: The 20th Anniversary of 9/11
10 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
This week on the National Security Law Podcast, we mark 20 years since the 9/11 attacks. Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney share t...
Episode 208: Afghanistan
16 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In this week's episode, we focus on the unfolding situation in Afghanistan.
Episode 207: Pearls Are In the Eye of the Beholder
11 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
It's been a long summer break for the podcast, but we're back! Tune in today as Professors Chesney and Vladeck discuss and debate: AUMF reform pr...
Episode 206: This Podcast Is Not a State Actor
13 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
[Updated to fix the audio issue with the original file...though I have to admit, it was very entertaining to hear the hosts speaking an octave too low...
Episode 205: Road Trip!
28 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We're back, with one slightly-older co-host and another co-host who is ready to drive across the country! Tune in for discussion and debate relating...
Episode 204: [Insert Inscrutable Title Here]
15 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Hello from Austin! We're back with a new episode! Tune in as your co-hosts Professor Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: SCO...
Episode 203: Resistance Is Feudal (aka an interview with CISA’s Eric Goldstein)
24 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We are very excited for this week's show, in which we interview Eric Goldstein--the Executive Assistant Director for Cybersecurity at DHS CISA! We h...
Episode 202: Back in Steve’s Office
20 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Recording episode 202 was something of a milestone for us, because we met in Steve's office for an in-person recording for the first time since Before...
Episode 201: Revels, Revolts, and Reduxes…Part Deux
07 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Our latest episode is shorter than normal because...well, we recorded most of it and then lost the file. Suffice to say we were a bit tired by the t...
Episode 200: 5% of the Way to Episode 4000!
20 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Thanks so much to everyone who attended (virtually) tonight's live recording of episode 200! It was a blast. We covered: The drawdown in Afghan...
Episode 199: Why Is There No SJA Aboard the Starship Enterprise?
13 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In this week's episode, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: The proposed Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act (and DOJ's Ja...
Episode 198: What Tattoo Should Steve Get?
05 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome back! This week your co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: The PCLOB's report on Executive Order 12,333 The g...
Episode 197: Statler and Waldorf
26 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Just in time for your weekend entertainment, NSL Podcast is back with a new episode. This time the show was recorded live before a (Zoom-based) audien...
Episode 196: Good…and Terrible!
10 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
An extra-fun episode because we have an extra person with us tonight: Texas Law 3L Jake Bishop, our special guest host! Jake, thanks for joining in ...
Episode 195: Sparkly Rainbow Snowboots!
03 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Well, it's been a while, thanks to the ice/snow/power/water fiasco we recently underwent in Texas. But, though tired and not very prepared, we are b...
Episode 194: This Podcast Is Integrity-Curious
11 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We had great fun recording this one, thanks to special guest Greg Gisvold (consultant and senior fellow with the Rule of Law Collaborative at the Univ...
Episode 193: ‘Tis Better to Have Impeached and Lost …
04 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
This week on NSL Podcast, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss The proposition that the First Amendment (particularly the Brandenbur...
Episode 192: So…What Do We Do Now?
22 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
And then it was over. Wow. Here's hoping we can focus on traditional national security law topics from now on! Today is a pretty good start. We'...
Episode 191: The Biggest Fiasco of Them All
13 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We're back with further discussion of the insurrection: Is it constitutional for the Senate to carry on with trial of an Article of Impeachment i...
Episode 190: Day of Infamy
07 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Today was a national tragedy of the first order. Tonight we discuss: the many crimes that definitely were committed, and certain other crimes -- ...
Episode 189: Merry New Year!
01 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
How about a surprise mini-episode on New Year's Eve??? Sure, why not! Tune in for...well, not much. We just wanted to say hi, happy new year, th...
Episode 188: Not *That* Enterprise
22 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Hello from Austin, home of SolarWinds and CyberTrucks! [ed. note: uh, no. Let's go with home of bbq and tacos instead] We're back with another r...
Episode 187: Trumplandia in the Twilight
16 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Hey, we're back on our weekly schedule! How 'bout that...now we'll probably skip the next three, but hey, until then, we've got a quite a show, not ...
Episode 186: Jumping the Kraken!
08 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
It's National Safe Harbor day (for all you Electoral College enthusiasts), and we're here to celebrate with a new show. Join for spirited but respec...
Episode 185: The Blah-to-Coup Ratio is Increasing
30 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
And...we're back! Tune in as Professors Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss the latest in national security legal developments, including: Pr...
Episode 184: Make Rule 11 Great Again!
11 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In this week's episode, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: The array of firings and appointments of senior Defense Depa...
Episode 183: It’s Late, and We’re Loopy
06 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We are back, but alas we're here to talk about the election! If you were hoping for a national security-focused escape from the election, well, we'l...
Episode 182: This Podcast Will Keep Going Until They Come For Us!
22 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
And we're back, after a(nother) week off! What do we have to show for it? Tune is as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney as they review: S...
Episode 181: This Podcast Has Lots of Jitter
08 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
They may or may not have more presidential debates, but you'll always at least have us! Tune in for this week's episode as Professors Chesney and Vl...
Episode 180: This Podcast Really Should Be Weekly…
29 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We're not a biweekly show, we promise! It just seems that way sometimes...like this week, when we are bringing you: Discussing the passing of J...
Episode 179: This Podcast Is “Considerably Recalibrated”
16 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
So we took a week off without warning because, you know, 2020. But we're back, and we sure don't lack for things to discuss and debate! Tune in as...
Episode 178: What Would Robert Jackson Do?
31 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We are back after a week off, and apparently your co-hosts used the extra time to sharpen disagreements about old school topics like ... GTMO! Tune ...
Episode 177: This Podcast Does Not Have a Navy
21 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We are back with a new episode, bringing you respectful disagreements and discussion--not to mention heaps of frivolity--about the latest national sec...
Episode 176: This Podcast Won’t Play Football This Fall
10 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We were out last week...what'd we miss? Oh. So, there was much we could have covered this week, but we decided to focus on these three: The...
Episode 175: The President Has No Authority to Delay This Podcast
31 Jul 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We delay this program just fine without his help, thank you very much. Well, I guess you can see what we are leading with this evening. The run-of...
Episode 174: Portland Trailblazing
21 Jul 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This week we don't lack for topics, to say the least. Tune in for in-the-weeds discussion of: Trumplandia meets Portlandia 1: What's the legal ba...
Episode 173: This Is John Roberts’s Podcast
10 Jul 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We're back, with a Supreme-Court focused episode! Tune in for: The Supreme Court's twin decisions in the New York grand jury and Congressional ...
Episode 172: Cleanup on Aisle Trump!
02 Jul 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This week on NSL Podcast, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney review and debate the latest national security legal news, including: Russian ...
Episode 171: There’s a Spectrum of Corruption
26 Jun 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We're back with an evening recording, as co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck weigh in on: The D.C. Circuit's Mike Flynn ruling, and the like...
Episode 170: This Podcast Is Not Subject to (Prior) Restraint
19 Jun 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In the latest episode of the National Security Law Podcast, co-hosts Professors Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss: Juneteenth, the Emancipa...
Episode 169: Now We’re a Third Amendment Podcast
12 Jun 2020
Contributed by Lukas
After an extra-long break, we are back...and swamped! Tune in for debate and discussion of, among other things: The National Guard deployments ...
Episode 168: On the Brink with the Insurrection Act
02 Jun 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Tonight we bring you a special episode, recorded jointly with Ben Wittes as an episode of the Lawfare Podcast. Ben, Bobby, and Steve explore the thr...
Episode 167: Podcast Emergency Action Documents
21 May 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome back to the nerdiest national security law show around! Tune in this week for debate and discussion between Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney ...
Episode 166: This Podcast Has Temporary Absolute Immunity
14 May 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome back to the National Security Law Podcast, after a one-week hiatus! (You can actually watch the recording here, if you need more Zoom in you...
Episode 165: This Podcast Prefers Its Nothing Burgers to Be Medium Rare
02 May 2020
Contributed by Lukas
What a fun episode! Co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck recorded "live" before the Austin Bar Association, as the finale of their day-long Zoom...
Episode 164: LIBERATE THIS PODCAST!
22 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Is this our most-substantive episode ever? No, no it's not. Is it a sign that co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney are going a bit stir crazy?...
Episode 163: This Podcast Will Have a Very Powerful Reopening
16 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
And we're back, with discussion of the latest national security law news. (Video of the show here!) This week, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Ches...
Episode 162: The Penn Is Mightier Than the Sword!
08 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We are "live" from Penn Law today! Thanks to the Penn Law National Security Society, not to mention the magic of Zoom, we recorded today with a virt...
Episode 161: This Podcast Was Recorded “Before There Were Privacy Laws”
02 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
It's not April Fool's trick, we really are back with a new episode covering the latest in national security law news. Watch the video here, if you are...
Episode 160: This Podcast Is Invoking “P”!
27 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This is our second lockdown episode, simulcast as a Zoom-based video! If you didn't believe us before about our commitment to production authenticit...
Episode 159: This Podcast Is Zoom-y!
21 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We may be on home lockdown, but that didn't stop us from recording! Thanks to the magic of Zoom, we gathered online to record this episode, and just...
Episode 158: What SCOTUS Can Learn from Franklin Barbecue
11 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Are you "working" from home now? Perhaps it's time to take a break and enjoy the latest episode of the National Security Law Podcast. In a discuss...
Episode 157: At Least There Are No Zombies…Yet
04 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Back-to-back episodes! After yesterday's interview-focused show, we wanted to get right back into the mix with discussion and debate over the latest...
Episode 156: This Podcast Is VUCA!
03 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
We are back with an interview-focused episode! Tune in as Professors Chesney and Vladeck interview Brigadier General John G. Baker, USMC. General Ba...
Episode 155: This Podcast Is Not Wearing a Facemask (But It Did Wash Its Hands)
26 Feb 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This week in the wild world of national security law, your co-hosts Professors Vladeck and Chesney discuss and debate: The prospects for legislat...
Episode 154: This Podcast Is Not Just a “Piece of Metal”
19 Feb 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This week on NSL Podcast, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: The U.S. government's formal statement to Congress on the ...
Episode 153: This Podcast Has All the Elsas (But No Eminem)
12 Feb 2020
Contributed by Lukas
And we're back, with a fresh episode at last. Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate the latest national security la...
Episode 152: John Bolton Is Welcome to Testify on this Podcast
29 Jan 2020
Contributed by Lukas
After a wholly-frivolous episode last week, we are back with...well...a slightly-frivolous episode this week. Tune in as your co-hosts Steve Vladeck...
Episode 151: This Podcast Deserves (at Least) One Vote for the Hall of Fame
22 Jan 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Oh heavens, what were they thinking? This week on the National Security Law Podcast, your hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney bring you...well, no...
Episode 150: This Podcast Can’t Spell Sesquicenteninial!
16 Jan 2020
Contributed by Lukas
It's episode 150, and to celebrate we have a special guest: The Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), Christopher K...
Episode 149: This Podcast Will Not Serve as a Notification to Anyone About Anything
06 Jan 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Not surprisingly, this weeks episode focuses entirely on the set of legal and policy questions raised by the airstrike that killed, among other, the I...
Episode 148: This Podcast Is “Thug #7”
18 Dec 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Tired of watching the impeachment? Turn away from your monitor/tv, put in your earbuds, and go for a nice walk while listening to the latest Nationa...
Episode 147: Sometimes You Get a Donald J. Trump
10 Dec 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome back to the National Security Law Podcast! This week we discuss: The two Articles of Impeachment The Inspector General's Report on t...