Can Your Laptop Handle DeepSeek, or Do You Need A Supercomputer?
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Have you ever wondered if that laptop sitting on your desk could power these open source models you're always hearing about? Let's talk about that. Alright, welcome humans to another electrifying episode of the Neuron Podcast. I'm Corey Knowles, editor of the Neuron, and here with me is the Neuron's writer, Grant Harvey. How's it going, Grant? Good, good. How are you doing, Corey? Oh, I'm doing good today. Excited to have this conversation because I think there's a little bit of confusion around open source when it comes to people from a non-technical background trying to understand what this means to them.
Yeah, definitely.
So with that said, today we're going to dive into DeepSeek, the Chinese AI that broke the internet earlier this year.
Yeah. Have you ever tried DeepSeek, Corey? I have.
I have. I've used their web portal.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've done that as well. I've never actually run it on my machine, which we'll get into as to why. But I have messed around with the portal a little bit and there's different versions, you know, kind of like chat GPT. There's, you know, there's the regular version of it. And then there's the thinking version, which I think is what has a lot of people excited is that R1 is what it's called. It's like chat GPT is O1.
I will say I've read some crazy stuff out of its thoughts.
Well, I think you showed me one where it was like it could think perfectly in the style of Donald Trump, which I thought was pretty funny.
It did. And there was another one I read the other day, and I can't remember what it said right now, but it was about – It was trying to think and trying to work through a problem, and it couldn't do it. And then it's like, okay, well, maybe I'm going to just take a different approach here and stop. And it goes through this whole, it was kind of comical, the approach it took to it. From the front end, it's good. I mean, it's not, I haven't, like, stopped using ChatGPT to use it more, but it's fine.
Right. Yeah, you mentioned that it broke the internet. It also broke some laws too, which was an interesting aspect of this that we got to talk about. Because it's not like this is just another chatbot that you can just compare against ChatTPT. I mean, that's kind of complicated. It's got some interesting allegations against it. Some alleged military ties to China's military. They may be stealing chips, breaking U.S. laws, and maybe kind of a security nightmare. So I don't know if this is something you want to just spin up for funsies. You've got to know what you're doing.
And there might kind of be nothing we can do about it at all is kind of the other interesting aspect here. But I guess first let's kind of set the stage here with who DeepSeek is. If I was going to put it in one quick sentence, I think what I would say is that It's a Chinese AI company releasing fully open source models that rival GPT-4 but also came out to rival 01.
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's definitely China's version of OpenAI, except they're giving away the secret sauce for free. So, you know, O1 obviously was this big guarded secret by OpenAI. They didn't even want to show people its thoughts. They were just telling you its thinking. When DeepSeek came out, it was like R1 I'm talking about. It was the complete opposite. It was like, we're just going to show you the exact train of thought and show you everything. Oh, and you can download it and run it for free.
That's the statement that I think throws so many people off. What I will say is that what I remember is it was January 20th, 2025. You know, I have some investments, nothing major, little stuff mostly. But I do own a little NVIDIA, just for full disclosure here to everybody. And I woke up that morning and I saw it. And my my heart dropped into my stomach and I could not. So I immediately got online, started figuring out what was going on. And it was somewhere overnight. Everyone really freaked out about this. It was like a joke. That's kind of the day Wall Street noticed.
Yeah, definitely. I mean, I had people who don't really follow AI talking to me about like, have you heard about deep seek?
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