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The Neuron: AI Explained

Can Your Laptop Handle DeepSeek, or Do You Need A Supercomputer?

03 Jul 2025

38 min duration
6557 words
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03 Jul 2025
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In Ep 3 we explore DeepSeek's open-source R-series models that claim GPT-4-level performance at a fraction of the cost. We unpack whether you can realistically run DeepSeek on a laptop, where it beats (and lags) OpenAI, and the serious security implications of using Chinese AI services. Listeners will learn the economics, hardware realities, and safe alternatives for using these powerful open-source models.How to pick the best AI for what you actually need: https://www.theneuron.ai/newsletter/how-to-pick-the-best-ai-model-for-what-you-actually-needArtificial Analysis to compare top AI models: https://artificialanalysis.ai/ Previous coverage of DeepSeek: https://www.theneuron.ai/newsletter/deepseek-returns https://www.theneuron.ai/newsletter/10-wild-deepseek-demoshttps://www.theneuron.ai/explainer-articles/deepseek-r2-could-crush-ai-economics-with-97-lower-costs-than-gpt-4 U.S. Military allegations against DeepSeek: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/deepseek-aids-chinas-military-evaded-export-controls-us-official-says-2025-06-23/ ChatGPT data privacy concerns: https://www.theneuron.ai/explainer-articles/your-chatgpt-logs-are-no-longer-private-and-everyones-freaking-out OpenAI’s response to NYT lawsuit demands: https://openai.com/index/response-to-nyt-data-demands/ How to run Open source models: Go to Hugging Face for the models: https://huggingface.co/ Use Ollama or LM Studio (our recommendation) to run the model locally: https://ollama.com/ https://lmstudio.ai/

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0.031 - 35.561 Corey Knowles

Have you ever wondered if that laptop sitting on your desk could power these open source models you're always hearing about? Let's talk about that. Alright, welcome humans to another electrifying episode of the Neuron Podcast. I'm Corey Knowles, editor of the Neuron, and here with me is the Neuron's writer, Grant Harvey. How's it going, Grant? Good, good. How are you doing, Corey?

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36.122 - 50.541 Corey Knowles

Oh, I'm doing good today. Excited to have this conversation because I think there's a little bit of confusion around open source when it comes to people from a non-technical background trying to understand what this means to them.

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51.517 - 53.12 Grant Harvey

Yeah, definitely.

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54.041 - 60.372 Corey Knowles

So with that said, today we're going to dive into DeepSeek, the Chinese AI that broke the internet earlier this year.

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61.854 - 64.679 Grant Harvey

Yeah. Have you ever tried DeepSeek, Corey? I have.

64.839 - 66.522 Corey Knowles

I have. I've used their web portal.

67.058 - 83.585 Grant Harvey

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've done that as well. I've never actually run it on my machine, which we'll get into as to why. But I have messed around with the portal a little bit and there's different versions, you know, kind of like chat GPT. There's, you know, there's the regular version of it.

83.625 - 90.636 Grant Harvey

And then there's the thinking version, which I think is what has a lot of people excited is that R1 is what it's called. It's like chat GPT is O1.

90.768 - 93.673 Corey Knowles

I will say I've read some crazy stuff out of its thoughts.

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