Teaching Computers to Smell?! The AI That's Digitizing Scent
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So imagine if you could smell a photo, not just see it, but actually smell it. Like someone sends you a picture of fresh coffee and your phone releases that exact aroma. Sounds like sci-fi, right? Well, a company called Osmo just figured out how to teach AI about smell.
Welcome, humans, to the latest episode of The Neuron Podcast. I'm Corey Knowles, editor of The Neuron, and we're joined, as always, by the writer of The Neuron Daily AI newsletter, Grant Harvey.
Today, we are talking about something truly wild, teaching computers to smell. Our guest is Alex Wilczko, founder and CEO of Osmo, the first company to digitize scent. They've created an AI that can predict what a molecule smells like, teleport scents across rooms, and design brand new fragrance molecules that have never even existed before. And this isn't just about making better perfumes. Alex thinks this could actually help us detect diseases earlier and even fight malaria. That's wild. Alex, welcome to The Neuron.
It's a pleasure to have you.
Corey Grant, it's awesome to be here. I'm excited to chat.
Awesome. Well, I guess first question that everyone's going to be wondering, what does it mean to digitize smell?
So, I mean, let's talk in analogies. What does it mean to digitize sound, which is what we're all experiencing right now? There's three steps. Take the physical world, which is vibrating airwaves, and turn that into a digital signal. So that's what a microphone does. That had to get invented at one point, right? Initially, that was literally changing those pressure waves into grooves of a needle carving into a piece of physical material. Step number two, encode and reason about and then decode that signal, right? So now we have MP3. It's a way of compressing and understanding audio. We've got audio editors. So first, you got to read the physical world, then you have to map it. And then you have to write it back out again, right?
So that's what a speaker does, which is it takes those originally just grooves, but now digital signals, and then it moves a surface to recreate those airwaves. The important thing about all that is those three steps are wildly different. They're actually three different, totally different steps. Those are three different technology stacks that each operate under different physical principles, but you have to have them all. And so we're looking at digitizing the sense of smell, and we have to do all those three steps. We have to read the chemical world and turn it into digital signals. We have to map it, and then we have to write it back out again. In when we started doing this, I mean, I've been thinking about this problem for about 20 years and Osmo's been going for three.
And before that, I was I was working on this problem at Google Brain for about six years. What's a little crazy is the ability to read the chemical world already existed. It was really good, actually. There's these things called spectrometers. It's what like CSI uses to figure out, you know, what are the different trace samples at a crime scene. And then the ability to write the chemical world back out again is also pretty good. There's these fluid handling robots that will move around ingredients and mix them kind of like an inkjet printer can mix inks. The part that was missing was the map. And that's been a super hard problem to crack. And again, let's think about vision. RGB, three numbers that are the map of color.
And in fact, we roughly have three different kinds of color receptors in our eye. They roughly correspond to RGB. We have over 300 types of olfactory receptors in our nose. So the sense of smell is going to be, just based on that, 100 times higher dimensional, 100 times more complex. Whatever map exists for smell is not going to fit on a flat piece of paper. We're not going to look at an RGB diagram and be like, oh, that's why, you know, lavender smells close to this other floral, but far away from rotten eggs. Not going to happen. The map exists in data though, right? So that's the core insight that we've been operating around is like, well, now we have algorithms and we have huge data sets and we don't need to wait for our own visual cortex, our own visual systems to lead us to the map.
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