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The New Yorker Radio Hour

How Bob Menendez Came By His Gold Bars

10 Mar 2025

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What led to Bob Menendez's sentencing?

1340.564 - 1349.809 Nancy Solomon

Menendez has repeatedly denied wrongdoing. His lawyers aren't counting on a pardon and have said they'll appeal the conviction. And the current U.S. Supreme Court?

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1350.43 - 1362.918 Ciara Torres-Spelliscy

It might actually help. The Roberts Supreme Court has been steadily deregulating corruption. They've done this both in white-collar crime cases and in campaign finance cases.

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1363.758 - 1389.35 Nancy Solomon

So the outlook for Bob Menendez is not quite as bleak as it might seem, despite facing 11 years in prison. But whether or not he receives a pardon or wins his appeal, it remains an epic collapse of what was a historic political career. He was the first in everything he did, first in his family to go to college, first Latino in New Jersey elected mayor, state legislator, and member of Congress.

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1390.391 - 1406.478 Nancy Solomon

That's what makes this case and the cartoonish details of gold bars and stacks of cash squirreled away in his home so mystifying to those who knew and respected him. Like Brad Lawrence, his consultant who worked on nearly every one of his campaigns.

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1407.158 - 1424.052 Brad Lawrence

I don't want to be a Bob Menendez apologist, particularly in light of how it ended. But I also have, you know, a long history and a respect and affection for at least the first three quarters of his life, political life. I don't have the answer to it. I wish I did, and I feel like I'm an idiot that I don't have the answer for it.

1424.653 - 1430.678 Brad Lawrence

But, you know, it is to me an inexplicable and tragic way for him to go.

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Robert Menendez was sentenced to 11 years in prison. He remains free so he can attend Nadine Menendez's trial. She also pleaded not guilty. There's more reporting on politics and crime from Nancy Solomon at deadendpodcast.org. That's the New Yorker Radio Hour for today. Thanks for listening. See you next time.

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The New Yorker Radio Hour is a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker. Our theme music was composed and performed by Meryl Garbus of TuneArts, with additional music by Louis Mitchell and Jared Paul.

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This episode was produced by Max Balton, Adam Howard, David Krasnow, Jeffrey Masters, Louis Mitchell, Jared Paul, and Ursula Sommer, with guidance from Emily Botin and assistance from Michael May, David Gable, Alex Barish, Victor Guan, and Alejandra Deckett.

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