Ryan Coogler began his career in film as a realist with “Fruitvale Station,” which tells the story of a true-to-life tragedy about a police killing in the Bay Area. He then directed the class drama of “Creed,” a celebrated “Rocky” sequel. But then he moved to the epic fantasy of Marvel’s hit “Black Panther” movies. In his newest project, “Sinners,” Coogler continues to deal with themes of history, faith, and race, but through the lens of horror. Jelani Cobb sat down with the director to discuss setting the film in the South, the mythology of the blues, and how he made a vampire story his own.
What themes does Ryan Coogler explore in 'Sinners'?
And, you know, you talked openly about before you made Black Panther going to Africa to actually get a kind of understanding of Black Americans' relationship with the African continent. Yes.
And Zinzi pointed out that it was like you were grappling with the questions of distant African ancestry in that film and here grappling with more immediate questions of, you know, ancestry in this country, in Mississippi, where the film is set, you know, even though it's shot in Louisiana, but it's set in Mississippi. And that this is the same sort of kind of ancestral exploration happening here.
Absolutely, man. And it was so much, man, it was so... It's such a blessing to be able to make this movie. It's very sharp of Zinzi to make that assessment. She's the sharpest person I know, man. And, yeah, no, she's absolutely right. And what's funny is I went to Mississippi, and that is the most African place I've ever been outside of being on the continent. What do you mean by that?
Number one, the feeling that I got. It was a feeling that... that I got when I first touched down on the continent. And I get it every time I go back, you know? And it's difficult to explain. I tried to think about it in a tactile manner and tried to translate that into the film. I remember I got out of the car in the Mississippi Delta and I was like, oh, wow, I feel like I'm back, you know?
And that was... for me was like deeply profound, man. Like, um, it was like, oh, through the process of making Black Panther, I realized, all right, African Americans are, are extremely African.
You know what I mean?
Like, like it's, it's, you know, we may be more African than we know, you know, and realizing that, that, that the, you know, the 400 year distance from the continent, you know, it did not, it, it was no way it was ever going to change thousands of years of, you know, you know what I mean? Of, of, of culture, right? Um, But with this, it was like, oh, we affected this place. You know what I mean?
Like, we brought Africa here. You know, like, that was what I realized was... you know, we had the power of transformation, man, over landscape, over feeling, you know what I mean? And it's known that the music came from that place, you know, like the most influential form of blues music, the Delta Blues.
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