What will Burnham's Britain actually look like?
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is a global production. This is the essential difference with Andy Burnham. He's normal. He can speak human.
What are the main characteristics of Andy Burnham as a leader?
He's charismatic. So I could go on of the things where Andy Burnham has said one thing and now he's kind of in full-scale retreat as he, you know, he's become the MP for Makerfield and is the next Prime Minister.
Well, I don't think it will probably make the difference between saving the Labour Party from extinction...
We don't know what his plans are for defence or for welfare or for taxation. We don't know anything.
I don't feel sorry for a failed politician who's fucked it up. I'm afraid not. Thank you very much. Tattie bye. Farewell. It's been an absolute pleasure and a treat. And let us move on.
We haven't yet heard directly from Andy Burnham, but we're wondering if this is what the Andy Burnham premiership might soon start to sound like.
That is the Member of Parliament, Carl Turner, an ally of Andy Burnham. For all that we heard the bromides yesterday about we all owe Keir Starmer a great debt and we should be thankful to him, is this the authentic voice of what the Labour Party is thinking today? It's time to move on. Welcome to the Newsagents.
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It's John. It's Maitlis. And we left you yesterday just before the King of the North had arrived at Westminster, before he was sworn in, before he hailed his arrival with a selfie in Westminster Hall, surrounded by 200 of his best mates, all the MPs that decided they wanted to literally get behind Andy Burnham. One of those in the crowd was Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor who decided she would not appear outside her own front door, waving off the Prime Minister himself in his resignation speech. And overnight, we've also had a lot of correspondence from you, from our viewers, from our listeners, saying... Did you lot do all this? Is this the media's fault? Did you get rid of a good man because you wanted a bit more energy?
It's a really interesting question about whether Keir Starmer was the author of his own demise or it was the forces in the British media. Personally, I think it's overdone. Keir Starmer had agency. I don't think the media barons exercised the same power as once they did. But we're now in the position where Keir Starmer is dead. And, you know, you talk about Westminster Hall. It was in Westminster Hall where the Queen lay in state. And, you know, when the Queen died, the Queen is dead. Long live the King. And we are seeing that in politics now, where long live the new King, Andy Burnham, And that is why 200 MPs wanted to be part of that photograph, wanted to be in a position where they could say, oh, look, I'm loyal to you, Andy Burnham.
Will you give me a job? That is politics as we see it today. Now, there's a huge amount we still don't know about what Andy Burnham might do if and when he becomes prime minister. But his allies are rolling the pitch. They're getting the ground ready for when he takes over.
Yeah, but I think the don't knows still outweigh the knows, frankly. We don't know what he thinks about foreign policy, about defence spending. We don't know what he thinks about Trump or his relationship with Europe or indeed Ukraine. We don't know what he'd do on taxation or welfare. And Keir Starmer has in some ways set him his first trap because he is trying to push on with spending proposals to NATO and The very proposals over which John Healey, his defence secretary, resigned just 10 days ago because they weren't forthcoming. Is Keir Starmer trying to put this in place for his own legacy or to make Burnham decide if he's going to tear it all up or carry on?
Well, let us speak to Carl Turner, who is the MP for Hull East. I didn't say the Labour MP for Hull East because he kind of was stripped of that title because he had been gobbing off in his terms about certain things to do with the prime minister and ended up being a trenchant critic of Keir Starmer. Carl Turner, let's start with that criticism that has come that it's all the media's fault and not about Keir Starmer.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–0:10
2
What are the main characteristics of Andy Burnham as a leader?
0:10–4:55
3
How does the media perceive the leadership transition in the Labour Party?
4:55–9:02
4
What criticisms are directed at Keir Starmer's leadership?
9:02–14:24
5
What unknowns exist about Andy Burnham's potential policies?
14:24–17:49
6
How do allies of Burnham view his leadership style?
17:49–22:10
7
What impact does Burnham's leadership have on the Labour Party's future?
22:10–26:26
8
What are the implications of the recent political changes for the public?
26:26–39:00
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