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119: Be Undeniable: Achieve Greatness and Sustain it with Cameron Hanes

Mon, 05 May 2025

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Bowhunter, endurance athlete, and Keep Hammering Collective host Cameron Hanes is back on the show — and this time, he’s preparing for one of the hardest races in the world: Cocodona 250.We dive into the mindset, obsession, and sacrifice it takes to show up day after day for something that pushes you past your limits. Cam talks about the release of his new book Undeniable, the cost of being an outlier, and why real growth starts where comfort ends. He shares lessons from a lifetime of running, training, and suffering — both planned and unexpected — and how that pain sharpens purpose.CHAPTERS:00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome02:02 Why This Year for the Race?03:50 Discussing the New Book04:49 Defining Outliers17:12 Bodybuilding and Endurance Training25:51 Upcoming Race and Competitors34:38 Running Journey and Mindset42:08 Mental Preparation for Marathons46:54 The Value of Suffering54:39 The Drive to Keep Pushing01:09:09 The Importance of Hard Work01:24:37 Intentionality and FocusORDER CAM'S NEW BOOK HERE:https://www.amazon.com/Undeniable-How-Reach-Stay-There/dp/1250365945PRE-ORDER MY UPCOMING BOOK HERE:https://www.amazon.com/Go-One-More-Intentional-Life-Changing/dp/1637746210FOLLOW:Become a BPN member FOR FREE - Unlock 20% off FOR LIFEhttps://bpn.team/memberIG: instagram.com/nickbarefitness/YT: youtube.com/@nickbarefitness

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Chapter 1: What is the mindset going into Cocodona 250?

6.243 - 35.561 Nick Bare

All right, welcome back to another episode of the podcast. Today's guest is Cam Haynes. Welcome. Thank you. How are we doing? Great. Yeah, pleasure to be here. You're multiple days out from Cocodona 250. Yeah. What's the mindset like right now? We were previously talking about it, but what's your mindset? focused on right now being a few days out from a massive effort race?

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37.342 - 57.049 Cameron Hanes

I don't know. It's like, I don't know if this is a blessing in disguise to have the book coming out at the same time because the race starts on May 5th. My book comes out the 6th. So I'm doing this, stuff like this, podcast. I did Rogan yesterday, got you today, then Chris Williamson also today. And I don't know if that's, if it helps me or...

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Chapter 2: What inspired the release of Cameron's new book?

59.693 - 66.959 Cameron Hanes

Yeah, if I'd be obsessing if I was at home and didn't have this. So maybe this is better or it's distracting me from and I should be focused.

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67.019 - 75.486 Nick Bare

I don't know. Is there extra pressure around the race given the momentum and kind of amount of eyeballs on you given the book launch?

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Chapter 3: How do you define an outlier?

76.968 - 107.924 Cameron Hanes

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of people who probably want to see me do bad. And so I got to think about that because for whatever reason, it's a weird time in the running world these days with the run influencers coming in. It's a big thing. Yeah. But there's people who will be rooting for me too. And all we want is... I just want to put forth a good effort out there.

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Chapter 4: What is the relationship between bodybuilding and endurance training?

108.645 - 119.134 Cameron Hanes

And yeah, I hope my body holds up. And yeah, there's pressure for sure. But you're just saying it's been multiple years since a 200 plus mile race.

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Chapter 5: What does mental preparation for marathons involve?

119.294 - 124.138 Nick Bare

Yeah, many years. It's been like six or seven years. Why this year? Why 2025? Yeah, I think it's because...

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Chapter 6: What is the value of suffering in achieving goals?

129.884 - 149.617 Cameron Hanes

If anybody says anything to me about like, hey, what do you think about this? No matter what it is, I'm usually like, sounds good. And so I think Speedland said- They want to have a couple of shoes come out, a road running shoe with me, a new trail running shoe. They said, what do you want to do around Cocodona?

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Chapter 7: How does hard work contribute to success?

150.237 - 169.393 Cameron Hanes

We get you in the race, and then we could have the shoe launch, you know, because there is some highway miles there, so we could have both shoes. And for me, I'm like, oh, yeah, sounds good. Sounds like a good opportunity. The running the 250 miles part, I didn't really think about. Just the cool event and having fun and seeing everybody and being in the mountains for a few days.

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Chapter 8: What does intentionality mean in the context of achieving greatness?

169.934 - 193.096 Cameron Hanes

And then after I agreed, I thought... Then I was reflecting, like, wait a second. So this is going to require a lot of effort from me for many days. So I just agree to it and don't really think things through usually. Who's your crew for COVID-19? Rihanna. Just Rihanna? I don't know. I got some guys filming. My camera guys will be there.

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194.276 - 217.861 Cameron Hanes

I think Taylor, my brother, is coming down, I think, on day two. Taylor, we were just talking about, did the Arizona Monster 300. And, yeah, I mean, the Speedline guys will be there. I'll have plenty of people there to help out. I do have, oh, the guys who paced. Taylor at Arizona Monster, one of those. Adam, he's going to come down. He said he'd help pay, so there'll be people around.

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218.121 - 229.553 Cameron Hanes

I heard you guys talking about him on the podcast. Yeah, yeah. He just did, yeah. Yeah. I don't know him. Taylor vouches for him, and Taylor's super tough, so I'll go with that. We'll see. Yeah.

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230.494 - 255.763 Nick Bare

So the new book... I recently just read through it. First off, I appreciate the feature in the book. There's a full page of me shirtless standing on top of the mountain. Yeah, you're stud. I can't complain about that. But I love the different approach of bringing in the stories of people all of these individuals you brought onto your podcast.

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256.143 - 280.741 Nick Bare

You've been doing the podcast two and a half years now? Yeah, something like that, yeah. Two and a half years? And as I was thinking about this conversation and where to take it in the book, because the book comes out, what's the date? May 6th. May 6th. Just thinking about, you talk about it a lot in the book, these outliers, people being outliers. And

282.938 - 299.687 Nick Bare

I like to keep the conversation focused, at least in the beginning about that. Because I'm curious from your perspective, you have all these conversations with people, you're an outlier yourself. What separates someone considered an outlier from everyone else?

302.329 - 323.48 Cameron Hanes

Yeah, I mean, I think if I had to just sum it up, it would be obsession. It's like... Because you'd say, well, are you an outlier? Do you want to be an outlier? Most people would be like, I don't even know what that means really. Other than, well, you could be like, you're so weird. Nobody wants to hang around you. So it's like, oh, that guy's an outlier. Why? Oh, he's kind of a freak.

324.04 - 334.527 Cameron Hanes

Like an outcast. An outcast. I think of it as, when I think of it, it's always success related. It's achieving goals. It's you've risen to the top of whatever field you're in.

335.447 - 359.518 Cameron Hanes

so for these people no matter what it is you can talk about being a scientist a runner lifting weights uh endurance athlete it's so much passion has been involved in that journey that they've dedicated their life generally to one pursuit and because of their success in that pursuit they've made this name for themselves and that's what i call an outlier

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