Is Kier Starmer on the precipice?
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Keir Starmer is under mounting pressure after Labour suffered heavy losses in England's local elections, with Nigel Farage's Reform UK making historic gains across traditional Labour and Conservative strongholds. As the political map shifts dramatically, George Parker, Financial Times political editor, joins me now to sift through the rubble. George, good morning. Morning. So just to give us in summary, what's the picture like?
What were the local election results for Labour and Reform UK?
Scotland, Wales and England. Is it catastrophic for Starmer? Yes, I think it is. I mean, it's one of the worst sets of results we've ever seen from a governing party. The Labour Party lost 1,400 odd seats. They were defending 2,500. So a large proportion of the seats they were defending went down the drain. At the same time, Nigel Farage's Reform UK came up. And what was if you sort of look below the bonnet of that, you can see the Labour Party being obliterated in some of the working class English towns, places like Wigan or Sunderland by Farage's Reform UK. And in Wales, where basically Labour's run the roost for the best part of a century, they've lost control there of the Senate. And in Scotland, the SNP have continued a governance there which lasted for almost 20 years.
So all across the UK, apart from Northern Ireland, the Labour Party has been absolutely hammered. Now, what about the Conservatives? I mean, they were looking like a party that was doomed in any event and that Farage would certainly eat their lunch. Obviously, his appetite is broader than just the Conservatives. But how did they do? Really badly as well. I mean, what you're really seeing is the breaking up, or at least we saw the breaking up yesterday, of the old two-party system in Britain, the sort of duopoly of the Conservatives and the Labour Party, who've dominated Westminster politics for the best part of, well, for over a century now, being broken. And the Conservatives, like the Labour Party, were hammered in places like Essex, just outside London, which is where Kemi Badenock, the Tory leader, has her seat, and a number of other places.
Tory bigwigs. Reform UK completely smashed them. They lost, I think, over between 500 and 600 seats. The only thing that I would say about the Conservative Party is that despite the fact they did really badly, the spotlight has not been on Kemi Badenoch in the way it has been about Keir Starmer, just because she actually is slightly more popular than her extremely unpopular party. Now, the statement from Starmer that I take full responsibility for these terrible results, but I'm not going anywhere. So what does taking responsibility mean? Well, that's a good question. And there are a lot of Labour MPs who would wish that he took responsibility, as you suggest, by quitting. But Keir Starmer's a stubborn man, he's a proud man, and he believes that he can turn things around.
He doesn't want to be dragged out of number 10 at a time when he's perceived to have been a complete failure, when his own administration is mired in the kind of scandals we've seen recently with the Peter Mandelson scandal. affair so he claims that he has a he can see a way through that he can raise his game and he's going to take responsibility by leading the party out of this mess the problem is that a large part of his party including privately a number of members of his cabinet think that it's gone too far that his popularity in the country is just so appalling you just simply can't turn it around with him as a leader Now, the question is who might be leader in his absence and how it would look.
How many prime ministers would we have had in the past five or six years? Oh, my goodness. You're testing my memory here. So this seems to be quite an easy question to answer. But we've had David Cameron. We've had Theresa May. We've had Boris Johnson. We've had Liz Truss. We've had Rishi Sunak. And now we've had Keir Starmer. So that's since 2015. That's the last 10 years. So that would be six, and we'd be going for a seventh if Star Wars was to be removed.
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