The Pomp And Joe Show
Jeff Patton of Baseball Card Castle joins before our show for Food Bank!
10 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome back to Pomp and Joe. You caught us in the middle of a 12-pack. The general is on hold here. We're going to go out and visit him on Friday. So we're going to discuss that in a moment, plus the card of the week. But as I said, Bob, we're now in the middle of a 12-pack. Limits, could you crack one, please? Thank you.
And do you have the clip from Mike Tomlin on officiating and how he doesn't call New York? Do you have that? No. That's okay. I have it right here. He was asked yesterday about this, Bob, you know, with the Isaiah Likely situation and what is a catch. He said, it's always been debatable.
Chapter 2: What is the significance of the DK Metcalf card mentioned?
I just kind of learned to move on. I moved on from Jesse James, et cetera. I focused my energy on making enough plays to minimize that. That's why you won't hear me calling New York postgame for explanations. It's not going to change the outcome. Well, guess who called New York the day before Tomlin spoke? Bob. Mr. Harbaugh did. And their GM, Mr. DaCosta.
Was that a shot at Baltimore or an innocent little opinion?
I think it's a little jab, yeah. I would take it. And when it happened, we're sitting there watching this in the studio there, and I thought, that's a little jab. I thought it was a little jab, and I like it.
Chapter 3: How does Mike Tomlin define a catch in football?
A friendly jab, but a little jab, yes. But I would think that eventually that rule is going to have to be looked at again and again because it has been looked at again and again. And while I think the application was correct, I think the application... needs to be a little bit changed. The way they look at that has to be changed. Do you agree with that? Do you think it should be?
Because here's the scenario. I was looking at games last night, and I saw one. This is a San Francisco game against Seattle from three years ago where I forget who the receiver was, caught it at the two-yard line, took two steps, held the ball out over the goal line, and was knocked away at that point. But you crossed the goal line.
We've talked about this. You compare it to the Aaron Rodgers play. And like I said the other day, if you're on your knees catching the ball and you're touched, it's apparently immediate play dead. But if you're on your feet and you catch the ball, you practically have to bring the ball back to the sidelines and get it autographed by a fan or autograph it for a fan before it counts.
How can it be that different? I just don't know, Bob, that there's a rule that's going to satisfy everybody. It's a tough thing. What constitutes a catch? It's a tough thing to write into the rules. Everybody thinks it's easy. I don't think it's easy to do.
No, I don't know. But, I mean, I trust my eyes on what I think is a catch and what isn't a catch.
Me too. But if you were the guy, you know, in New York and it was the Super Bowl and you looked at it and you said, yeah, you know what, I trust my eyes, that's not going to be good enough.
Maybe it just should be if you have possession. And possession is ā Two hands around the ball, or it's clear that you have possession, and the ball crosses the goal line no matter what instance, then it's a touchdown. It's the same concept.
I do like that, yeah.
To me, it's got to be simpler as opposed to being more complicated.
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Chapter 4: What challenges arise in determining possession in football?
Maybe one 1,000. That's all you need it for. I don't know. It needs to be knocked out of your hands right away. I don't know how to define it. That's the problem. I don't know either. I think it's so interesting every time we have these discussions. But maybe we should let them off the hook a little bit, the rules makers, because since football began, this has been an issue.
I remember the Bills losing a game in Miami on such a play, and Did he have it long enough? I don't know. You don't know. Nobody knows if he had it long enough. And they've never been able to define it and replaced on nothing to change that.
Yeah. No, I agree. I think it's a difficult thing to think. I mean, I think they have it right when it comes to running the ball as long as it crosses the goal line. As long as it's there, you could swat the ball away and it's still ruled a touchdown, right?
If a quarterback leaps over a pile and barely gets it over that line or if Christian McCaffrey is diving and his knees don't touch the ground and the ball is on the goal line, it's a touchdown, even if the ball comes out when he hits the ground. So that's different than receiving one, I know. But, man, it's just so many different situations arise from it.
I don't know what the right answer is when it comes to passing touchdowns. I don't.
Man, Jerry Dulac's chat. We're going to get to the top of the hour, Bob. Very interesting. Some of the things he says about Mason. Some of the things he says about Aaron Rodgers. And he speaks a little bit about his own relationship with art. How about this, Bob? What a chat. This is going to be coming up at 11.
Isn't it going to be Jerry's relationship?
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Chapter 5: How does the discussion about officiating evolve?
Let's raise some money for the food bank.
Let's do it, man. You and us, and most importantly, all the listeners have done an incredible job of that.
But it starts with a general. He makes that available, brings people in there. Good job by you, Jeff.
Great job. Least you can do. Least you can do. A business shouldn't just be in the community. They should be part of the community. So that's our goal. Well said.
Bob, I'm going to go with a DK Metcalf card this week. How about Jens? That was one. I was going to take Aaron Rodgers just because of the discount double check and the way he had his competitive spirit alive and well in that game. Wonder Twin?
Is a Kyle Schwarber card available, General? For the Pirates. For $150 million it is, Limits. What do you got, General?
Believe it or not, along with Phillip Rivers, I almost had Kyle Schwarber beat a card just for the fact that we talked about it for a week. It was intriguing. But I got to tell you, that shows that the system needs fixed, right? Because no matter how much the Pirates would have done, the Phillies would have done more. And why would he leave that system? But all three of you nailed it.
But DK Metcalf's the card of the week. It's called a Sunday Kings. It's made from Donner's Optic, a very rare football card. This one is even more rare. It was great to see DK come alive. I'm throwing in an Aaron Rodgers also. We'll throw in a Kyle Schwarber rookie. We'll make it a trifecta for this big week. Kick it off Friday.
That is a cranky one, General.
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