The Prestige TV Podcast
‘Industry’ S4 Finale: "Both, And" … What the Hell Just Happened?
03 Mar 2026
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Chapter 1: What were the hosts' initial reactions to the season finale?
Hello, welcome back to the Prestige TV Podcast Feed. I'm Joanna Robinson.
I'm Rob Mahoney.
I'm Jodi Walker.
Oh, hi, Jodi Walker.
Chapter 2: Why is Yas's character facing a point of no return?
We are here to talk about a very disturbing episode of television. Never mind my... I've come with a lot of smiles, I'm realizing, in the intro. My chipper tone, yeah, exactly.
Chapter 3: Did the show cross ethical lines with Yas's storyline?
We're here to talk about the industry, season finale, both written and directed by Mickey Down and Conrad Kaye. We are going to start where we have the last couple episodes, which is I'm going to ask you, Jodi Walker, did you like this episode of television? It's never Rob Mahoney. It's always Jodi Walker.
Chapter 4: What are the main themes explored in the episode 'Both, And'?
I'm a coward.
Did you like this episode? It could be Rob Mahoney.
Rob Mahoney.
Chapter 5: How does Yas hold power in her relationships?
Did you like this episode?
You know what? I'm so glad you came to me first because I don't know.
Oh.
Chapter 6: What significance does the jet scene hold in the finale?
I feel very complicated about this finale. I think I'm very interested in the bigger picture shifts that the show is taking towards entering into the political sphere in an even more overt way, setting up potentially next to the fifth and final season.
Chapter 7: What are the implications of Whitney's potential return?
I think tapping into some of the ideas within that world that industry seems interested in, I'm thrilled about. Do I fully buy where all of our core characters ended up based on the development and roadmap of this season in particular? I just don't know that I do. And so that leaves me in a weird place where big picture, I like a lot of what's happening.
But the intimate personal stuff, I really don't know what to make heads or tails of.
Are you talking about Yasmin specifically, who has, of course, the most controversial ending here? Or is there anything else you had in mind when you're saying that?
I think there's two things. The big one is definitely Yaz, where, look, Jo, you've been on the Glenn Maxwell front all season.
I don't like that phrase at all.
Do you not live in that space? Is that not how you're spending so much of your quality time these days?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it's true.
It's true. So like, look, the writing was on the wall. We can't say we weren't warned as far as even some like the biographical similarities in terms of what's been happening with Yaz. I just feel like we were maybe like a hop, skip and a jump too many in terms of where we're to believe that she has gone over the last couple episodes morally in terms of the line she's willing to cross.
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Chapter 8: What can we expect from Season 5 based on this finale?
We are at a place where I think what worked for me about this finale and the way that the end really brought it together is that Harper's endless desire to be singular and Yasmin's endless desire to be a part of something and how those are so things that could work for good. And when... I want to say the deck is stacked against you because anyone can take the other path.
But when maybe the bad workers in the world or the industries that surround you are begging you to go astray, how easy it is to do that in the wrong direction. And I know that this turn for Yasmin feels extreme, but in other ways, it
feels so easy and and more than most of the personal beats in this show the way that it has been laid out that Yasmin wants to be necessary wants to be a part of something and she's so bold as to have actually said it at this point that that made sense to me even though it was really tough to take something that I think is really interesting um
I really loved this episode. Not that I like had a great time watching it because it was hard to watch. But it felt like really good, bold, audacious storytelling, which is what we want from industry. For sure. And it felt really emotional. Like it's plot driven, but it's like the last half hour. is Harper and Yaz in Paris. Like, that's half the episode.
And, like, for... You know, Jodi and I wanted this sort of reconciliation between the two. Not like this, but the fact that their relationship, to me, feels like the most important part of the show. And so for the show to be like, yep, it is, and we're going to spend a lot of time on it.
And, you know, we'll talk today about Whitney's departure and what's going on with Henry and all that sort of shit. But, like, Harper and Yaz are what really matters here. And... And so to see this all coalesce to, yes, Rob, have watched several Glenn Maxwell documentaries in the last couple months.
You're a professional. You're doing your job.
Well, to think about... So what's so interesting about Glenn Maxwell, like the main... connected tissue between Yaz and Glenn Maxwell has more to do with her father than it does Jeffrey Epstein.
What I think is really interesting and what they've done here and we've talked about this a lot with like the Wirecards like fraud as a thing that they were adapting is they've taken the beats of a story that they find interesting and then sort of twisted and warped in, brought in other inspirations to create their own, like, special cocktail.
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