The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
Raging Moderates: The Possibility of a Third Trump Term (feat. Kellyanne Conway)
01 Apr 2025
Jessica is joined by former Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway to break down the latest chaos inside the administration. They dive into the fallout from Signalgate—and the possible repercussions of Trump’s Liberation Day tariff threats. Plus, the Supreme Court is set to weigh in on Trump’s most aggressive immigration policies. And finally, looking ahead: What does a post-Trump world look like for both parties, and how seriously should we take the possibility of a third Trump term? Follow Jessica Tarlov, @JessicaTarlov. Follow Prof G, @profgalloway. Follow Kellyanne, @KellyannePolls. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Raging Moderates. I'm Jessica Tarlow. Scott's off today, but I've got a guest who knows the inner workings of Trump's world better than most. She's been in the room, she's seen how the machine operates, and she's here to help us make sense of what's happening inside the current administration. Kellyanne Conway joins us today. Welcome to the show, Kellyanne. Thank you, Jess.
Nice to be with you. It's nice to be with you off campus a bit. I feel like, you know, we're always at Fox and you have like three minutes to speak and now we have an hour. Let's dig in.
Let's dig in. In today's episode of Raging Moderates, we're going to be talking about the biggest scandal to hit the Trump administration yet, Trump's immigration policies heading to the Supreme Court, and what a post-Trump world looks like for both Republicans and Democrats. So last week, the biggest political story was, by far and away, Signalgate, and the fallout is still unfolding.
The Atlantic's editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, somehow got added to a Signal group chat where top Trump administration officials were We're talking about airstrikes on the Houthis in Yemen. The White House tried to push back, but once The Atlantic published the full transcript, things only got messier.
Now Congress is looking into it, Republicans are in damage control mode, and national security concerns are piling up. Kellyanne, what's your kind of top line feeling about so-called Signalgate? What did you think when you saw the story? Do you feel any differently than you did on day one?
Well, clearly it was a mistake and a mistake has been admitted and rectified. Nobody was purposely inviting a reporter, let alone Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic, to this group chat.
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