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H1 College Basketball Bombshell, Caglianone has Arrived

22 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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26.997 - 32.164 Soren Petro

You are listening live to the program. Your teams, your town, your program.

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Wide right field and gone. And the Royals are on the board. And he hits it high in the air into deep right center field. Carter's at the wall. Into the water. A monster. Caglio Jack, his second of the night. Blasted to left. Soaring and gone. Jack Caglio gives the Royals a 9. You bet he did. Splash, second deck. And the first pitch is launched to right field.

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And Jack Caglione goes into the water again.

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82.162 - 87.212 Dax Shepard

And now, everyone's favorite talking head, Seren Petro. Right you are, Kay.

87.232 - 93.184 Petro Siebel

Right you are. Petro on the program on Sports Radio 810 WHB. That's the band that was playing there. Is that what we got going on?

93.224 - 108.786 Dax Shepard

Yes. There you go. But take me to the water, Jack Caglione. I saw a lot of baseballs in the drink. Who's the lead singer talking heads? David Byrne. David Byrne. He's still out playing. He does a lot of stuff. He's fantastic live.

108.906 - 125.723 Petro Siebel

Yeah, he's a talented guy. Turns out, talented guy. Kind of like that Lionel Messi. He's not bad. Talented guy. He's not bad. Has he got two goals today? Is that the deal? Or just one? I saw the first one. He had five in the World Cup. I don't know. This is just their second match, right?

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Yeah.

Chapter 2: Why is Dusty May leaving Michigan for the NBA?

737.024 - 757.164 Petro Siebel

You know, Boynton is going to take over. He was on the staff. That's what we said. Well, I guess you just pretty much got to go interim here, and we'll get through this year, and then we'll throw it out there to whoever's out there. But if Michigan wanted to call... Whoever they want to call, you're answering the phone.

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757.405 - 768.723 Dax Shepard

Yeah, and I think they will a year from now, but I think the problem would be what can – and you might be able to get the guy, but you're still going to have to wait to get – players, aren't you?

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768.803 - 792.712 Petro Siebel

I mean, so many teams are kind of set. Yeah, Boynton was on the staff, and so I think they're probably feeling like this is the best way to try to maintain the roster. Yeah. That's my assumption, is that this will be the best way to maintain the roster. But it is like if, you know, Dusty Mays has only been on the scene for a little while.

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792.732 - 798.521 Petro Siebel

I don't know enough about him to say, okay, well, this is what he's always been angling for was to get to the pros.

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799.943 - 816.666 Dax Shepard

Doesn't feel that way, but... There are a lot of people who maybe thought they were even beyond casual basketball fans who, when the tournament began... Had to be reminded who the Michigan coach was. Because Dusty May is not a name that's been buried, you know, burrowed into your brain for 10 years.

817.026 - 841.999 Petro Siebel

I do think, you know, listen, you do have a star player. You're getting an aging star back. I actually, if I were Dusty May, the first thing I'd do is trade Kyrie Irving for whatever I could get and build the thing completely around Cooper Flagg. But... You know, those are a couple of pieces, I guess, but you're a 26-win team with Cooper Flagg. Now he'll be better next year, and we'll see.

843.34 - 857.535 Petro Siebel

But, man, Mark Cuban's like, yeah, I wish I hadn't sold to those guys. Well, okay, they don't exactly look like they're a finely-tuned machine there with the Dallas Mavericks. I mean, you know, I think it's interesting. I think it's a really interesting situation.

Chapter 3: What challenges does Dusty May face as a new NBA head coach?

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And I'm completely, you know... I guess just wanting to see if it works. They have the ninth pick? Yeah. Tupper flag, pick number nine. Kyrie Irving coming back. They've got a couple of other good pieces, a couple of other previous lottery picks.

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878.659 - 886.939 Dax Shepard

Michigan big man. A day? Is he going to try to get his own guy? I hope he takes the best player.

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886.959 - 898.594 Petro Siebel

Yes, yes. You know, that's what he should do. But that's around the range that kid's going. They've already got, was it Derek Lively from Duke that's down there? Yeah. So he was hurt last year.

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898.754 - 912.267 Dax Shepard

Tomorrow night got a little more interesting. Yeah, yeah, it did. It was already interesting, but now it goes beyond the interest. It was generally going to start after the first three picks anyway. Now it's going to go a little deeper.

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913.028 - 935.948 Petro Siebel

And on that draft front, Darren Peterson expected to go number two overall. This after he put out to everybody that he would only meet with the Wizards because he plans on going 1-1. If you're trying, if you don't, first of all, I don't get why you wouldn't want Salt Lake City. I was really impressed. I was there a year ago, a year and a half ago, whenever it was.

936.509 - 956.736 Petro Siebel

I was really impressed with the city. I mean, it's clean. It's beautiful. Mountains all around you. You can go up to ski resorts in 45 minutes, be up at a fancy ski resort. I think it's at Heavenly, I think, as you can go up to. Neat little ski town. Yeah. You know, like it's a cool city and they're about ready to get Major League Baseball.

957.537 - 979.189 Petro Siebel

I'm going to build this huge deal, you know, development, you know, mixed use development like everybody's got to have as part of their plan to to get one of the baseball expansion teams. But if you are not wanting to go to Salt Lake City because you think it's like boring, like what does that say about the player? First of all, I don't know who wants to go to D.C.,

979.608 - 1006.472 Petro Siebel

Like after you've seen the sites, does anybody like, you know what? I'm going to put down some roots here. No. Yeah. Nobody likes living in D.C. Traffic sucks. You know, like everybody, you go there to see all the historical things and then you get the hell out. So you're like this. He's trying to engineer his way to New York or Miami. But he's engineering his way away from Salt Lake City.

1007.294 - 1011.24 Petro Siebel

Does that sound like a guy who's really committed and focused on the basketball?

Chapter 4: How does the hiring of Dusty May reflect the state of college basketball?

1170.421 - 1194.648 Petro Siebel

I mean, they literally, since he left Kansas, they have literally thrown up every flag you could possibly throw up. Like, oh, I want to play point guard. Oh, we're a team that needs a point guard. He's going to play point guard. Okay, so we should get him. Oh, now I'm healthy. I wasn't healthy. What the hell was it they decided was the problem they came up with? He hatched some creatine.

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1194.689 - 1202.3 Petro Siebel

Creatine, that's right. That's why you never – now you're going to see the real me. Yeah. Okay.

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1203.266 - 1203.688 Dax Shepard

I hear a lot of that.

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1203.708 - 1215.142 Petro Siebel

That's not a – Yeah. I mean, that's an admission that you weren't as good as you can be. I don't want to say weren't very good, but that's admitting that you weren't as good as you could be, and now we're throwing it out this way?

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1215.362 - 1238.612 Dax Shepard

And if you're a player on the Jazz, or if you're the coaching staff, you have to say, all right, if we're going to bring him in, is he going to mold any kind of system, or is he going to do what he did in Lawrence for most of the year? When he's on the court, he is the system. And other players have to adjust around him. Is that someone you can build around? You're picking at two.

1238.692 - 1240.174 Dax Shepard

You can't blow this.

1240.835 - 1247.862 Brennan Vogt

And I'm seeing about 25 minutes ago from ESPN, Trey Young and the Washington Wizards have agreed to a four-year, $212 million contract.

1247.882 - 1248.182 Petro Siebel

Yeah.

1248.203 - 1249.164 Brennan Vogt

So they've got a point guard.

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