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The Prosecutors

The Prosecutors After Dark: Brett Almost Gets Arrested

06 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What happens when Brett almost gets arrested?

27.571 - 36.924 Brett

Hello, everybody. Welcome to this episode of After Dark. Nothing good happens after dark, but we're here anyway with Alice.

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37.745 - 45.235 Alice

We should definitely not still be up because Brett has court in the morning. I don't even know what awaits me.

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45.936 - 47.138 Brett

I have an old argument next week.

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48.039 - 51.043 Alice

Do you really? Did it get pushed or has it always been on the books?

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51.183 - 52.465 Brett

It's always been on the books.

52.63 - 59.063 Alice

I mean, in some ways, you've had unlimited time to prepare for it if the government's been shut down. In other ways, you probably haven't been working.

59.604 - 63.311 Brett

Well, you know, I didn't exactly start preparing for it until today.

63.371 - 72.529 Alice

Technically, anti-deficiency clause, you were not supposed to be able to work. Good point. So you, not clause, act. So you were just abiding by the law.

72.695 - 89.911 Brett

I'm not really supposed to talk about my cases, but this is after dark, so whatever. But as long as we're like, I have no idea why we're going to oral argument. And that's the worst because I feel like I'm going to walk in and the judges are going to be like, so this issue. And I'll be like, oh, shoot. That's why we're here? Well.

Chapter 2: How do Brett and Alice prepare for court arguments?

240.158 - 242.722 Brett

If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them. Otherwise, I'll sit down, right?

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245.469 - 267.727 Alice

Exactly. Okay. So I have a really important question because I do think this is very interesting. I used to love traveling. Now I like traveling much less. It's hard to leave a bunch of kids behind. And also it's just like not as novel to stay in a hotel room anymore. I like my own bed. So we were talking about this. What do you do when you walk into a hotel room? So I do the full sweep.

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267.927 - 290.07 Alice

Like I drop on my hands and knees and look under the bed. Most beds now, like in hotel rooms, have the barrier where there's no under the bed. Must be because they know. murderers can hide under there. But I swing open every door. I make a lot of noise and I'm like ready to bolt. And then when I have cleared the room, like the police officer I am not, I then bolt all the doors.

290.19 - 299.552 Alice

Like if there's the door bolt or the chain and then the like little tourney thing. I don't know what the tourney thing does. Because, as those of you who have been following for a while, there was one crime con.

Chapter 3: What are the secrets behind oral arguments in court?

299.733 - 319.635 Alice

We don't have to be specific about which one. I was given a key to a room that was not mine. And then this happened yet again when I had the bed bug issue. I did not get bed bugs, but... The room I was in had bedbugs, and they sent us to a room with a key that opened the door where someone was. So that's why I bolt all my doors.

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319.995 - 328.471 Alice

Less so because of murderers, more so because of incompetence, because I figure if someone wants to come in and get me, they're going to be able to knock down the door.

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329.352 - 335.031 Brett

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I'm a man, so I don't feel... I'll say this.

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335.071 - 350.089 Alice

You don't check your room when you go in a hotel room? Well, what would I check for? Really? Okay. I need a poll. I need a poll. I truly am curious about this. I've never not checked a room that I go into. What are we checking for?

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350.069 - 365.014 Brett

Like, people? Someone! Because there is that story, and it's a true story. It's an urban legend, but it's also based on a true story. About the guy who murdered the woman and put her under the bed. And, like, somebody checked in. They're like, wow, this place stinks. And they found the dead body under the bed.

365.494 - 374.609 Alice

Terrifying. Well, if I smelled a dead body, I would just run. I'm not looking for a dead body. I'm looking for someone who wants to make me a dead body. So, you really don't check? No.

375.03 - 376.853 Brett

I check the back of my car, but...

377.052 - 393.176 Alice

Look, it's different being a guy. No, no, I agree. I'm not chastising you. I'm so surprised that you don't check. I would not be able to continue about my night if I had not checked. I check all my doors before I go to bed at night.

393.857 - 398.364 Brett

I mean, if it was a super shady motel, maybe.

Chapter 4: How does Brett's hotel room check routine reflect his concerns?

655.936 - 658.699 Alice

Having not figured out what happened? I mean, I was half drunk.

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658.679 - 684.043 Brett

Right? I didn't know what happened. That's fair. I go to bed. So I go to breakfast with my other co-clerk. And I'm like, the weirdest thing happened. I woke up and there's like a woman's purse in my room. And she's like... you have the purse? And I was like, what purse? Well, it turns out the purse was my co-clerks purse. And my co-clerks government credit card was in the purse.

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684.925 - 704.039 Brett

So when she woke up, she woke up in her own room, by the way, and realized she didn't have her purse. It's like three o'clock in the morning. So she's trying to call her fiance. And she dials the number and she calls a guy at 3 o'clock in the morning. A random guy. And she's like trying to explain it to him. And the guy's like, you got the wrong number.

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704.319 - 722.008 Brett

But she keeps calling the same number, waking this guy up. And the guy's like, lady, I don't know who you are. It's 2 o'clock in the morning. I am not your boyfriend. And she's crying. She's like, but I've lost my purse and all this other stuff. Anyway. Okay, so then like it starts coming back to me and flashes, right?

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722.328 - 747.321 Brett

So basically what I've managed to reconstruct about the night is it's Valentine's Day, by the way. It's Valentine's Day. We're at this Irish pub. We do the car bomb. At some point, a couple comes in celebrating Valentine's Day. We somehow become like friends with them. One of them has cigarettes. Right. And so I'm like, I want a cigarette. So she gives me a cigarette.

747.421 - 764.646 Brett

So I start smoking a cigarette. We can't smoke cigarettes in the bar in Atlanta at this time. So I'm smoking this cigarette. So the bouncer comes up and I vaguely remember this now. So at the time, this is back when I, you know, when I tried to join the Navy, I think I've told this or I try to join the Navy. I was like in great shape. So I'm like in the best shape of my life.

765.047 - 788.928 Brett

The bouncer comes over. The bouncer is like this five foot three dude who probably weighs like 120 pounds soaking wet. And he's like, sir, you're going to have to leave. And I looked at him and just burst out laughing because I was like, you're going to remove me? Man, you're not going to remove me. So anyways, so like... Anyway, so all this happens.

789.068 - 795.521 Brett

At some point, my co-clerk goes to the bathroom. She loses her purse. She decides that the couple we're with stole the purse.

796.042 - 796.443 Alice

Oh, no.

Chapter 5: What funny incident occurs involving a woman's purse?

1111.445 - 1129.303 Brett

And so I put on legal briefs. So I started listening to legal briefs, and you guys were talking about the case out of Oklahoma, the Glossop case, which was in front of the Supreme Court. And so I listened to your Glossop episode, and I was like, oh, that's really interesting. And then I went back to Crammond. Next day, she has her interview.

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1129.623 - 1145.481 Brett

And the way it works when you interview for the Supreme Court, and frankly, when you interview for most appellate courts, really any court, the first people you talk to are the clerks. So the people who already have the job. They interview you first, and they have a lot of say with the judge about who gets hired. And so she says she goes to the interview with the clerks.

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1145.581 - 1168.659 Brett

The interview is going really well. And then they're like, okay, you want to be on the Supreme Court. You want to clerk for Supreme Court. Tell us about a case we're considering right now. And she goes. Well, there's this Glossop case that you guys are concerned. She was like, she just like said everything. She was like, I just went ahead.

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1169.5 - 1183.782 Brett

And what's funny about it is the justice for whom she was interviewing at the time ended up dissenting in that case, which means agreed with us because we were in the dissent. So the fact that she's presenting the case the way we presented it.

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1183.762 - 1185.727 Alice

Maybe we helped write the dissent.

1185.767 - 1190.48 Brett

There you go. It was very attractive. There's justice. And then sure enough, she gets the clerkship.

1190.5 - 1192.666 Alice

That is like awesome. So I'm pretty sure.

1192.686 - 1196.978 Brett

And then she tells me, but you're soft on crime because of this whole like escape thing.

1197.278 - 1218.477 Alice

you are soft on crime so she's my fan then okay thank you okay you absolutely are soft on crime i do not believe in the right to escape whatsoever but i'm pretty sure you know how when you write a book and they have like a review by someone famous i'm pretty sure now we can say have successfully placed clerk on supreme court people should start paying us for the service

Chapter 6: What unexpected events transpire at the Irish pub?

1321.902 - 1343.892 Brett

We just appear in the darkness when you need us. We're like Batman or something. I don't know. Anyways, well, this has been fun. Alice, I've enjoyed this. And even though nothing good happens after dark, I hope we do this very soon. But until then, she's Alice. And he's Brett. And this is The Prosecutors After Dark.

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