Chapter 1: What financial mistakes does Jack discuss?
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edge today. You're going, can I do this? Can I make it? You can make it. She's going to tell you how. It's going to be fun. But first, Jack is up in Indianapolis, Indiana. Jack, how can we help today? Hey, guys. Thank you so much for taking my call. I bought a RV for $60,000 on a 15-year loan at 18% interest. Wow. Why'd you do that? I'm realizing how bad of a decision it was.
It was to live in, to save up eventually for a house, and I'm realizing, like, the interest is $800 a month on just interest. My goodness. Only $50 goes to the principal, and I'm realizing it'll be, like, 16 months before I even... scratched the surface under what I borrowed. So I was wondering, because obviously, I want to get out of it now. I started the baby steps.
All I had was like, like 1000 personal loan, 2000 personal loan, I had some student loans, I had some credit cards, but I only made 2000 a month. when I bought it. So I don't even know how I got approved for it. Right. But, um, so I went one by one and, uh, I got rid of everything except for the camper. Um, my income is about 4,000 a month now. Okay. So, um, where are you living?
Uh, I'm, I got a job as a truck driver. So in the truck, Okay. Okay. Are you okay? You don't sound okay. You don't sound very okay to me. Maybe it's just your voice, but I'm just sensing something. I'm really nervous. I'm really nervous. I just... Okay. Yeah, no, I'm good. Okay, great. Okay.
So you've got... Did I understand correctly when you said you got rid of all the other debt except this RV? Yeah, everything. Okay, good. I did make a little mistake. I know you were supposed to save $1,000 first. With the first $1,000, I put it towards the debt. Okay. But yes, I have my $1,000. Everything else is gone. Good. Except for this camper.
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Chapter 2: How can Jack resolve his RV debt issue?
And you still owe $60,000. What's it worth if you were to sell it? The dealership offered $31,000. Oh, lordy. But what if you were to sell at private sale? Have you looked into that? I have it listed for $38,000. And I've been trying to call the show for a couple months now. So I owe... 48 on it now. You owe 48 on it now and you could sell it for 31? 38, so it's got a list to that.
So it's a $10,000 deficit there. What keeps you from going down to a credit union or going down to a bank or getting any kind of loan to clear this out? Why don't we do that? I canceled my credit cards when I removed them, and it brought my credit score down pretty low. What about a credit union? Have you gone into a bank to see? Because at this point, here's my thinking on this.
My rationale is there's not a worse loan than the one you have, and you're going down. You're going from $48,000 of debt to $10,000 of debt. I'm going to take that deal every time, even if the terms aren't great. Well, yeah, because you're going to knock it out. You make $4,000 a month. You knocked out the other debt. Why can't you knock out this $10,000 debt very quickly? That's true.
I was trying to rent it as well to see if I could try to get money out of it. But every moment you wait, it's dropping in value because you're in such a bad loan, right? The interest alone is $800 a month. So time is not on your side, my friend. Listen, we're coming to you from the Fairwinds Credit Union Studio.
I'd call our friends at Fairwinds and say, hey, I was just on the show with Jay and Ken, and here's my situation. And I've made progress. Will you guys help me out? And if they can help you out, they will. And to Jade's point, then if we can sell this thing and then they take over the loan for the minimal amount you're going to have left, you can knock that out.
So you want to get rid of this because this is a depreciating asset. That's why she's telling you that. You've got to get rid of it. And for anybody listening who's like, Jay told him to get a loan. She told him to take it out on a credit card. She told him to take a bad loan. We're going down, people. We're going from 48 down to 10. We're not going up. He's not taking a loan to go into debt.
He's taking a lesser loan to get out of debt. So that's the difference there for anybody who's trying to clock something that's not there. Yeah. And now, is this truck job, what's your opportunity to make more money than the $4,000 a month? Well, in the beginning, that's what I was getting because I was in training.
I also do all the services on his trucks because he owns a trucking company, so I do all the mechanic work on them for side money on cash when I am at Indianapolis because it is long haul. So as we look forward, how much more additional money can you make then than the $4,000? $4,000 to $6,000 a month, I'd say take home. All right.
And long term, is this a great opportunity for you to get to the six-figure range? It seems like it, yeah. Okay. All right. Well, what's the lesson here that you've learned? Because a lot of times we'll teach out of this. I want people to hear from you today because you're sitting in this calling us with a pit in your stomach. So what's the lesson for everybody else?
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Chapter 3: What lessons can be learned from Jack's experience?
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That's right. What's going on? So basically, I'm going to try and tell this story as concisely as possible, but it is kind of a tricky one. So basically, I was engaged to a girl, and we were together for a few months. I mean engaged for a few months. We were together for over a year. But she started expressing doubts, and ultimately she told me she wanted to end the engagement.
And around that time, we found out that we were pregnant together. Oh, wow. Yeah. So I was adamant about, hey, I think we should really try and stay together for the kids' sake. I think we should follow through with staying together. And so she was open to it for a little while. I moved her into my place. She has two kids, so we moved the whole family.
Um, and, uh, but ultimately I think she just kind of felt trapped to me in my place and she, she ended up leaving and going back to her place. She got her, um, her ex-boyfriend, one of her other kids' fathers to help her move. And, uh, he was kind of helping her out for a week. And, um, yeah. And so she, she left and, uh,
I was working on Wildfire at the time, and when I got off, I guess her ex-boyfriend kind of went out of state to go work a job, and so she kind of started reaching out back out to me for help.
And she doesn't really want to be together, but she's been asking for a lot of financial support, and she hasn't really guaranteed me that I'm going to even get to have a relationship with our baby on the way. She's pretty adamant about just wanting to raise her on her own and then just kind of receive child support. And so she's not open to any kind of 50-50 custody or anything like that.
Oh, wow. So I wanted to be helpful to her. Obviously, she's the mother of this child that we created, but it's really hard to not kind of feel like I'm just sort of being taken advantage of. We kind of agreed on that I would give her a little bit of money out of each paycheck to kind of help her out.
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Chapter 4: How does emotional struggle impact financial decisions?
And I'm glad you mentioned it. We're so excited. Jade's new book, What No One Tells You About Money, is now available for pre-sale. And I love this. We were talking about this earlier. This is not, you know, just some another money book. This is real stories from her journey. She and her husband Sam paid off over $500,000 worth of debt. And she focuses on the emotional side of money.
That's the idea. What no one tells you about money is what? That it's really, really tough emotionally. Even though we give you a tried and true process of the baby steps, that does not mean that you aren't going to have those rough days where you want to quit, where you feel frustrated, like you can't ever get there. It works for everybody else, Dave, but it ain't working for me, Jade.
The plan's only 50% of the equation. I mean, the logic, we can all look at the baby steps and go, yeah, that's logical. That makes sense. Feels practical. But when you start doing it, Ken, is a whole different story.
You get waylaid by a whole slew of things that you might be feeling, whether it's frustration, whether you're angry at the system or your mom and dad, or whether you're like the last caller, you're feeling a lot of guilt and shame, or maybe you're just caught up in like.
self-pity woe is me i gotta tell you if i if that was me and i wanted to be coached up by somebody who'd actually walk the walk and doesn't just talk the talk it'd be jay could you imagine jay training you could you imagine she runs marathons i mean look at the guns on the book cover if you're not watching the show today uh you gotta go to ramsay solutions.com slash store you can see she's got the guns out folks did you do push-ups before that photo shoot i
I ran a marathon before that photo shoot. I was in tip-top shape, Ken. I've got to tell you. Still am. My next book cover, I might go sleeveless. We'll see how that goes. I don't know. I'll let you borrow the tank top, Ken. That would probably look good. Your belly button's going to be showing. That's not a good look for middle-aged guys. Not a good look. Nobody wants to see that.
But hey, if you want to get the book, ramsaysolutions.com slash store. Pre-order now. Yes. Pre-order and you get $100 plus in free bonus items. You want to get it now. It's the best deal in the book. $24.99. I'm doing a book club. You're doing a book club? If you pre-order, you get a free slot in my book club. It's three weeks and we're going through it chapter by chapter.
Can I get a friend connection on this? Or do I have to buy your book or can I get a friend spot in the book club? No, Ken, you got to buy the book. Come on, that's just you being a good friend. That's a good point. I just exposed myself as being cheap. You know what's going on? I'm starting to act like George. That's a question George would ask because he doesn't want to spend any money.
What am I doing? I'm better than that. Let me tell you what I'm going to do. All right, I'll get it. I'll get it. And I'm pre-ordering, I'm buying a copy of my own book today. You are? Yes. That's part of it. If I don't buy a copy of my own book, why can't I expect anybody else to buy one, Ken? All right. Well, I'm very excited for you. I'll be the first one.
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Chapter 5: What are the psychological impacts of job loss?
The benefits are better. Who cares if this has to turn off? You're in a new job now. Yeah, that's the question I have. And this may be an unfair question. And if it is, just say, Ken, I don't know. And I get it. Do you have any sense of your ability to land somewhere else fairly quickly and Yeah, I don't know. What do you do?
Chapter 6: How do I choose the best severance option after being laid off?
I'm an IT project manager. Okay. Given that, you've got to make a decision pretty quick. I'm with Jade. I'm leaning towards option one because that gives you 60 days as normal. It gives you two months where life is normal. It's already awful enough what you've experienced. And I want to point this out so that you understand. sit with this.
We know from psychology studies that losing a job, even being laid off where you didn't do anything wrong, you're part of a massive deal.
Chapter 7: What should I consider when transitioning to cash payments?
It is the same emotional equivalent as losing a loved one. So you need to grieve this and know that this is hard. And for that reason, I think I'm going to take the 60 days. I know I got two months more of normalcy in the midst of a lot of grief and confusion and fear and all the stress. Right.
And if I get another job and it stops, that's fine, because we're talking about a bandaid situation at most. Mm hmm. Uh, so I'm with Jade on that. I think I'd take stability, but I would act as though you got nothing coming in. That's right.
Chapter 8: How do I effectively manage a sudden windfall from a lottery win?
Starting tomorrow. Actually starting today. You know what I mean? Like I tell the whole world, I just got laid off. There's no shame in that game, by the way, that happens all the time. And what's to say you don't get something better, you know? So I'd act as though nothing's coming in starting now. And, uh, I think that's what I would do. But so sorry, but you're going to be okay.
But I'm going to tell you something. And I'm not saying this is you, but I've coached thousands of people in my time here at Ramsey on this particular issue. And there is this temptation to feel so bad for yourself that you just get stuck in this rut of, well, nothing's really working. No, I mean, you act as if you are starving and you're thrown out on the street. That's the response.
I've been doing this show for over 30 years, and some of the saddest calls I have taken are from situations that are completely preventable. Yeah, and what's so hard is I feel like one of those, especially the ones that I'm like, oh. It's terrible. People that call in and their spouse has passed away suddenly and they don't have life insurance.
We actually took a question of a lady and she had three kids, pregnant, and husband didn't have life insurance. And I'm like, I can't even imagine. Or even if it was opposite, right? If a mom passed away, there's a dad with kids and trying to figure out how am I going to afford childcare? How do I outsource some stuff that maybe she was doing?
And it just takes the grief and the sadness of something like a sudden death to a whole new level. Like when you have to think through how am I going to pay my bills? How am I going to eat next week? Yeah. In the middle of all that grief. Like it's just, it is, it's terrible.
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