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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chapter 2: How does George's new book relate to financial freedom?
We're Ramsey Personalities. co-host of the show, good friends. And I want to say, as we start, just a big congratulations. It is launch week. We'll talk more about George's brand new, soon-to-be best-selling book, Breaking Free from Broke, the ultimate guide to more money and less stress. Fabulous book. Congratulations, pal. Your first book launched this week.
It's been very humbling and overwhelming in the best ways.
Well, it's kind of like another type of baby, and you're a new dad. A lot. Yeah, it's a lot of similarities.
Had a baby about four and a half months ago.
Both keep you up at night.
That's true. I'm not sure which one was more difficult at this point, at least for me.
That's true. Maybe the book at this point. My wife will have a different story. Thanks to Whitney. That's right. All right, let's get to the phones. We'd love to talk with you. George is here to answer your money questions. I'll weigh in. I'm here to answer any questions around your work and making more money. George will weigh in on those as well. Let's go to Kelly in Indianapolis.
Indiana, Kelly, how can we help?
Hi. I have been kind of following the Ramsey plan for just trying to follow it for maybe about a year or two, but I just have one last credit card I just can't quite seem to get rid of. I don't have a balance, but I'm just trying to convince myself to actually get rid of it.
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Chapter 3: What are the common fears about cutting up credit cards?
That's the thing, Kelly. If you cut up the card today and an emergency happened, what would you do?
You would dip into the emergency fund. Yeah.
And that's what it's there for. And then once you use it, what are you going to do after you use it? You're going to replenish it. But you know what didn't happen? You never went into debt. You were never at the mercy of the credit card companies who are supposed to be blessing you with your 2% cash back and this emergency shelter. And so I'm going to encourage you to do the brave thing.
And what's amazing to me, Kelly, is as people have been reading the credit card chapter in my new book, they're telling me for years we couldn't cut it up and you finally did. He coaxed us into it with all of the research and humor and every objection I've ever had. I address it in that chapter.
So I'm going to send you a copy of the book and I want you to read that and then send me a DM when you cut it up with a picture. Can you do that for me?
Sure.
That's all I ask in return. So hang on the line. Austin is going to pick up, and we'll make sure you get a copy of Breaking Free from Broke. It's Chapter 3 specifically. I want to do another little mindset trick, if I might, George.
I want you to join me on this. You are like the David Blaine of the Ramsey Show. But Kelly, you said something at the start of the call when George was asking you, what's holding you back from cutting this up? And what you told him was... What other people are going to say to me? Because other people in your life are saying, Kelly, you're a moron.
They're not using that language, but that's how you feel. But they're going, Kelly, it's silly to cut the credit card up in case something were to happen. And so you haven't cut it up because you're worried about what they'll say. But what if something happens and when they hear about it, they're like, what? What did you do? You went, I cut a check because I had it in the bank.
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Chapter 4: How can an emergency fund replace the need for credit cards?
It pretty much does. Considering how many hours of your life you spend working. That's right. So I want to help you out in those areas. If you're thinking about some kind of transition this year, you're just not happy there, you're trying to figure out, do I start a side hustle? Is this the year to do it? Can I do it while I'm in the baby steps?
Any kind of work-related question, I'd love to help out on that, and George will as well. 888-825-5225. Let's go to Austin, Texas. Chris is there. Chris, how can we help?
Hey, Ken. Thanks for having me on, man. You bet. What's up? I've got a question regarding, we're trying to kind of restructure our debt and everything. So fortunately, my wife did really well this year, and her commission and bonus coming here in a couple months is going to be about $52,000.
Whoa, way to go, wife. That's pretty phenomenal. You were pretty happy when you found out about that, weren't you? Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
So one of the big things that we're knocking down is the remaining credit card debt, which we have about $11,000 just under.
with that that we're going to knock out and then the next things we kind of want to restructure our vehicle loans so um i own my own business i'm in distribution of beverage concentrate so last year about two years ago it was pretty tough getting a rental car a rental van so i went ahead and purchased a truck ended up paying 63 000 for that truck at a 893 a month payment and it's been fine because it's been overall savings i mean versus paying
you know, $1,500 a month renting vans back then. But we're thinking about we're going to get rid of that truck no matter what we do because vans are available today. But we do have negative equity of about, I would say, about $13,000 to $14,000 in that truck just because car manufacturers are getting competitive right now.
And a new truck would sell for $3,000 less than the one I have with 44,000 miles on it. Mm-hmm. So my question to you two was, is we have a Ram 1500 and a Jeep Wrangler. The Ram is $893 a month, and the Jeep Wrangler is $662. So the first thought that I had was to go ahead and pay the negative equity on the truck and purchase a new vehicle.
And we would basically assume a new loan on that new vehicle. So if we found a car for $25,000... we could go ahead and pay the negative equity of the truck of, let's say, $13,000.
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Chapter 5: What financial goals can I set with $10,000?
I'm randomly picking a number. What would $10,000 buy me? What would $12,000 buy me in Salt Lake City? Start shopping. Okay. You can go look at used cars, go under $15,000, under $10,000, under $5,000, whatever. And just begin to go, okay, ah, all right. So now we have a target because it's really hard to chase something that's not clear.
Chapter 6: How can I reverse engineer my financial targets?
And so if we go, okay, I saw a couple of cars and I think, babe, if we come up with $10,000, we're going to be able to get you a great car or whatever. Okay. Now we have a very clear goal. So now all of a sudden you go, what must I do to get $10,000 extra in cash? Well, I'm going to be reffing more basketball games or I'm doing something different. I'm selling anything that I've got or whatever.
So now we go, okay, we work backwards. It's just reverse engineering. Good $10,000 car, 8 to 10 is going to get us a pretty solid car for us. So that's what we've got to come up with. And so now you have a very clear attainable goal. That's how you accomplish stuff like that.
Chapter 7: What should I consider before buying a fitness center?
Got it? Yeah, that makes sense. All right. You're a sharp young man. Congratulations on being in a situation like this with a young married couple, their whole future in front of them, George, and in good shape.
Yeah, 21 years old. That's amazing. He's getting this stuff now. does the stuff we just taught him, he's going to be a multimillionaire with a wonderful marriage down the road.
Makes me think back to the last segment when you got out the old investment calculator. They are not far from being able to invest and just really reap the benefits. I thought for a second you were about to go coach some basketball, Ken. You're like, hey, this is a good side gig. Love to see Coach Coleman out there.
Chapter 8: How do I assess my fair pay in the job market?
I mean, look, $62 a game isn't bad, but he needs more money than that. This is The Ramsey Show. We'll be right back. Welcome back, America. You're joining the conversation here on The Ramsey Show. I'm Ken Coleman. George Camel is with me. And we're here for you. 888-825-5225. 888-825-5225. The Ramsey Show question of the day is brought to you by Neighborly, your hub for home services.
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Today's question comes from Jason in Virginia. My wife and I have taken the FPU class. We have no debt and we own a home worth $270,000. I feel like the focus of your programs are directed toward people who live in upper middle class. We live in the country. We homestead. We grow a lot of our own food and I work full-time and side jobs. My wife cares for her elderly mother full-time.
We hire assistant care to give my wife one day a week to get out of the house. But when I look over the list that I'm supposed to be living up to, I feel as if I have failed. I've never worked a job that has a retirement plan. I've never had a large income. I feel God has blessed us, but my present retirement plan is work till you die. Wow. That's a strategy.
Well, let me say this before you break the money part down. You know, I believe we were made to work. And I think that there's certainly in the older season of your life, you certainly want to downshift. Yes. But not doing anything, working to a point to keep your mind active is certainly helpful. So I understand. We were talking about this the other day, Stacy and I, with our retirement planner.
And he's like, Ken, you're going to work until you're 70. And I go, 70? Yeah. Like, I want to be putzing around, driving around, still putting a suit on, trying to get myself together in the morning to go do something, speak, communicate, something well into my 70s. So to that end, I don't want to poo-poo this idea, but it sounds like there's a cynicism to it.
Yeah, something's off here. Or I'm going to have to work until I die, which is different. So he says he's taken FPU. They have no debt. They have a home worth 270. He says he's never worked a job that has a retirement plan. Let me make it clear to everyone out there. Just because your job doesn't have a retirement plan doesn't mean you shouldn't be investing or that you can't invest.
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