Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Peter is in Philadelphia to kick us off. What's going on, Peter? Hi, how are you? Just... Stressed about bills and thinking about bankruptcy. Oh, man. How much debt do you have? A little over $25,000. What kind of debt is that? Maybe closer to $30,000. Car, personal loan, hospital bills, gas bill. And what's left on the car? The car is $10,000. The personal loan is $11,000.
And that's just, you know, like personal just because I'm trying to get myself out of a jam so I go back into it. You're in a cycle. What do you make? Right. $126,000 base salary. Dude. And I think last year I pulled in about $180,000 for overtime. America just lost all empathy here. You make $130,000 and you're calling in trying to file bankruptcy over $20,000? Yeah. What else is going on?
What else is eating your lunch? Cause it's not, it's not $25,000 of debt. You could pay off this debt in less than six months. I mean, I do have other things.
Chapter 2: How does bankruptcy affect my approach to debt?
I mean, I take care of my kids. Okay. Tell us about that because right now we're, we're trying to understand where there's the problem. Well, so I don't have a court order on the kids. I just, you know, whatever they need and whatever their mom needs, I just take care of. That's true. But again, if you were, if you were, I'm not going to lie, misspending. Okay, that's what it is.
Because even if you were married with the kids in the house, taking care of them, $125,000 income would still be a great income. So it's not the kids. It sounds like you're overspending in other areas. Do you have any kind of budget that you're on? No, not really. Okay, there's the problem.
So I guarantee you today, if you were to just do an old school budget on a piece of paper, if you just said, all right, here's the money I take home, my net amount when I take home my check, and now I write down what I'm spending money on, and I'm just going to go back through my bank statement, I think you would see the problem. Are you dating anybody? No.
Okay, so then you're just spending money on yourself, right? Is it food? Are you doing a lot of door dashing? If I looked at your bank statement, what would I see as the number one thing that you're overspending on? I don't know. Maybe fast food. Mm-hmm.
uh yeah i guess going out fast food uh-huh you go out with your buddies you guys go have some drinks anything like that i don't have time for that i work too much okay so here's what george and i are saying if you make a hundred and i mean we could talk about taxes and nickel and dime it but essentially if you made a hundred thousand dollars a year 126 you could live on a hundred and pay this debt off right at the basic level in less than a year can you live on a hundred thousand dollars a year
I think so. I think so, too. You're a single guy. I mean, yes, you've got your kids to take care of. How many? Two? Three. Three. Okay. How old are they? 16, 20, and 9. Okay. And the 20-year-old, is she in college? Mm-hmm. Yeah. What do you put towards that every month? About $600. Okay. And what are you taking home? Like, what ends up in your paycheck? Is it like $8,000? Yeah. Oh, that's right.
I also have a pension loan now. A pension loan? Tell us about that. Yeah. I totally forgot about that because that comes out of my check automatically. So I think I have probably about $24,000 left to pay on that. Okay. How much comes out of your check? $463 every two weeks. What caused you to take that pension loan? Oh, that's a long story. Okay. What about credit cards? Are you using those? No.
Oh, oh, glad you said that. So there's a, I got about 6,000 on a Capital One. Okay, now it's starting to come to view. We went from 25 up to 50, now we're at 56. Anything else you want to tell us about? Like, hand on the Bible, what else do you have going on? Student loans? I forgot about the Capital One card. Did you forget about student loans? I cut it off a year ago.
No, I don't have any student loans.
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Chapter 3: What should I do if my family expects financial support?
Okay, good, thank God. Is any of this in collections? The Capital One card. Okay. And the gas bill. All right. Are you ready to take control of this as a grown man with three about-grown kids, and you're like, dude, I'm ready to clean up my life? Because if you're ready, we can help you. If not, call us back when you are. Yeah, I am. Okay. I'm just too stressed out.
Starting tonight, you're going to make this budget and it's going to give you so much peace just to have the numbers laid out in front of you. Even if it's scary, even to go, oh, I don't like what I see. At least it's not the boogeyman and all the unknowns. I'd rather you be scared of the facts than the unknowns. So we're going to gift you every dollar to actually make the budget.
It's a digital app you can download. And you're going to list out your income for the month, and if that's $7,500, you list that in the income section. Below that, you're going to list every expense you can think of, including your minimum debt payments.
And what you're going to see very quickly is if you're going over budget every month or under budget, and you should have wiggle room to use that money to throw at the debt. And I want you to use your bank statement as a guide when you do this, because I kind of feel like you have something that's living in your head of what you spend versus what's actual reality.
So if you don't use that bank statement, you're going to say that you spend $400 on food, right? When the reality is you might spend like $1,100 on food, right? So go back- Get the bank statement for September and use that as a guide when you make this budget going into November, okay? That's gonna let you see, okay, now you're gonna see, oh yeah, this pension thing came out.
Now you're gonna see, oh yeah, this is what I spend on gas. And it's gonna take you, you know, you could do a quick, if I felt like you had an accurate picture, you could probably do it in 30 minutes. But I really think you need to look at these numbers. It's gonna take you an hour or so to get this done. But it's gonna give you, like George said, so, so much peace.
And the other question is, are you investing at all? No, nothing serious. Just pennies on Robin Hood. Oh, boy. Okay. Let's delete Robin Hood for now.
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Chapter 4: How can I change my spending habits to pay off debt?
Can you promise me that? Yeah. Okay, we're not really building any wealth over here. We're just wasting time. And what do you get every year when you do your taxes? What kind of refund do you get? I don't. Last year was the first time I owed. Okay. Okay, good. Yeah. The budget, I mean, it's the blood work. It tells all. It tells everything that's wrong with you. Okay. Yeah.
So once you do this budget, you're going to figure out your main expenses. Here's like food, utilities, housing, transportation, insurance, minimum debt payments, anything beyond that, you're going to get real judicious and cut out. And that means eating out. That's got to go because we got we got to clean this mess up and we don't want it to take 10 years. Let's do this in 18 months.
Does that sound better? Yeah. Well, think about this. You got $56,000 in debt, let's say, just using ballpark numbers, and you throw $2,500 a month at this. You're done in 22 months, less than two years. That sounds great, right? Yeah. And we avoid bankruptcy, which is going to implode our life for the next seven years and hurt your ability to get jobs, to rent apartments.
It's going to hurt you in a huge way to file bankruptcy, especially over debts these small. Yeah. And so I don't think bankruptcy is your answer. I think you are the answer, Peter. So hang on the line. We're going to gift you every dollar. Make that budget tonight. It's going to give you a whole lot of clarity.
And the new every dollar in that onboarding, that first 15 minutes, it's going to show you. how much margin you will create if you decide to commit. And so it's like, we're going to be in your pocket guiding you along the way on this journey. And we are rooting for you, man. We think you're worth it. We think those kids are worth it. And you're very capable.
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Chapter 5: What should I do if my mother expects financial support from me and my siblings?
I don't think you can influence the siblings at this point. I think there's already been enough of a wedge drawn there that you're not going to make any headway there. So that's the sad truth of it. But here's what I would do for your mom. Have her cover her four walls first, and if she can't make minimums on the credit cards, the credit card company can kick rocks.
Chapter 6: How can I help my mother manage her debt effectively?
They're not going to get paid before food's on the table. That's kind of what I told her, and so I was curious. You know, a little additional advice in regards to that. She's barely making four walls now. Yeah.
Chapter 7: What are the risks of pulling money from retirement to cover expenses?
Well, if she can't make the mortgage payment, sister's going to pick up the slack, isn't she? That's right. That's what's going to happen. That's on her. That's what happens when you, you know, co-sign.
Chapter 8: Should I prioritize paying off my debts or supporting my mother financially?
And so that's what I would be doing is make sure mom is healthy, safe, has food. The lights are on and I wouldn't pay the debts if you can't pay them. And next I would move to the mortgage if she can't pay it because someone else is on the hook for that. And this is the price you pay. So I'm so sorry you're going through this, Micah. This is messy all around.
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That's the letter Y, R-E-F-Y dot com slash Ramsey. Not available in all states. Cool, cool, cool. Today's question comes from Andre in Oklahoma. I didn't sing this time, George. Thank you. I'm 21 years old and have roughly $75,000 in cash. My vehicle and motorcycles were paid with cash as well as everything else. My question is, if I was looking to be a risky investor, where are my best options?
What? That took a wild turn. He's ready to get crazy. Did I read that right? I don't even know if this is a real question, but I'll treat it as such. So he wants to invest the $75,000 in some risky behavior, some risky business? I'm just confused because a 21-year-old must have worked their tail off to get $75,000 in cash unless it was inherited.
And so he's worked hard to make sure everything was paid in cash, avoid debt, and now he's wanting to take on risk somehow to be a, quote, risk investor. So my first question is why? What is your actual goal? Do you want a million dollars by 25? Well, then what's behind that?
You know, I want to get to the root of this because I think it's just young people going, well, I got to make a lot of money now. Interesting. Maybe he's just asking for a friend and he's trying to... Well, you asked the wrong people. I don't do risky investing. I mean, crypto, that would be very dumb.
Yeah, I guess if you wanted... If I was not me and I said I've got $50,000, I want to go throw at something, I'd probably just put it all on black on crypto and hope for the best. Otherwise, just go to Vegas. Go sports bet on a parlay or something, but... Yeah, I'd day trade it and see if I could make a spread if I wanted to do the riskiest.
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